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  • C charlieg

    No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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    I hate progressives, I got a pair last year and can't see close or far with them so ended up just getting a good pair for reading.

    The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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    • C charlieg

      No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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      Wore regular bifocals for years. One time, I tried progressives and gave up. Had to turn my head too much. I guess the tracks are wider now. 5 years ago, I had cataract surgery, left eye set for close, right eye for distance. I very rarely wear glasses. I do have a pair I wear for driving, corrects my left eye for distance. I have a pair of readers that corrects the right eye, only wear them if I am going to do a lot of reading. Works great. One time, way back, Optometrist wanted to sell me contacts like that, told her she was nuts. Should have listened.

      If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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      • C charlieg

        No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

        Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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        I have a rather strong prescription ( -7.5 ) and I have been using progressives for a few years now, but I still have to remove them to see anything really close/small.

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        • C charlieg

          No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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          You need computer glasses. Everything in focus at an arm's length (or however far your monitors are from your eyes).

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          • M Matthew Dennis

            I have progressives, and I found that they took a little getting used to. You need to make sure they are sitting on your face correctly. I find that if they slip down, then your are looking at the screen through the upper portion instead of the middle portion, and since the top is for distance, the screen gets blurry. I also found that having my monitors on a mount so that I am looking straight at the, instead of down helps to look through the middle of the lenses, keeps the glasses from sliding down, and as an added bonus, improves the posture.

            "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

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            I agree. I have the same experience.

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            • D DerekT P

              I first got glasses (I'm short-sighted) around that age; stepping out of the opticians into the street was an astonishing experience - one I've never forgotten. I had no idea that's what the world was supposed to look like. Literally, a revelation.

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              I got my first glasses at about the same age. After that, I could actually read the blackboard clearly but I got teased mercilessly as "four-eyes" and such. :( That didn't last long as many of my classmates started wearing glasses over the next year or two.

              My wife, on the other hand, started with glasses at the ripe old age of twenty-four. She is far-sighted and needed them for reading. Without them, she was having headaches from eye strain. On a daily basis, she does not do much close work — the closest she needs to see most of the time are the gauges and warnings on her dashboard. She and my children drive eighteen-wheelers for a living.

              __________________ Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now. © 2009, Rex Hammock

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              • C charlieg

                No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                I had them for many years and still have a scratched pair for backup, but I always have a dedicated pair of single lenses for computer work, we spend so many hours sitting in front of the dammed things it is worth it. I recently started getting the $15 fixed lenses from the chemist/drug store (for the yanks) for reading as I find I no longer need glasses except for reading and computer work. Instead of spending $500+ on progressive glasses I spend $60 on 4 pairs and leave them where I need them.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                • C charlieg

                  No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                  Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                  I've decided not to get old :-D - I am still in the denial phase, but I think it will hit me latest when I am not able to read anything on my screen anymore.

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  • C charlieg

                    No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                    Sounds like me some years ago or maybe decades. bifocals drove me up the wall. Trifocals were worse. I finally gave up and went with contacts. They have bifocals, too. Seemed to be more of an average between near and far. Great compromise. Always out of focus. Now I do contacts with mono-vision. One eye for near and one for far. It is surprising. Your eyes just do it for you. My prescription is very light, though. Maybe that makes a difference. I did bounce back and forth between contacts and glasses a few times along the way. Both were frustrating. Mono-vision is what finally worked.

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                    • C charlieg

                      No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                      I had cataract(SP?) surgery in one eye when I turned 64.(Yes SWMBO still needs me and feeds me then and now.) I am now approaching 72. The doctor put in a long range lens in. I now have 20/15 vision for objects 5 feet away or farther. However, when trying to read or look at a computer screen it's all blurry. I got glasses with a lens in the one eye that fixes it. Had to get the proscription changed at first so that it worked up to distances of 3 or 4 feet. I take them off when driving, etc. Took no time to get used to them. I never realized there were so many of us with eye problems!

                      Wear a mask! The life you save might be your own!

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                      • C charlieg

                        No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                        Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                        You need a second set of glasses optimized for coding. A set of Walmart "readers" may work if you don't have astigmatism or left-right asymmetry in your vision.

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                        • C charlieg

                          No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                          rnbergren
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                          I have multiple cheap reading glasses. Which drives me nuts. They are only for really close work like carving wood or something. I have progressives. I cannot wear them to write code. Just cannot do it. Reading the notes here. I wonder if I should get some computer glasses with only that midrange single vision just for writting code on a monitor at about 2ft of distance. The progressives are awesome for everything else. Driving Oh my goodness wonderful. Reading. Sure. Playing with the phone. Yep they are great for that as well.

                          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                          • C charlieg

                            No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                            Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                            I don't recall how long it took to get used to progressives, but it was at least a little while. One thing to get used to is actually moving your head to focus on other things instead of just glancing. A good example of this is stepping off a curb. With single lenses, you just glance down. With progressives, that's your "close" prescription, so the street is all out of focus. You need to get used to actually looking down. I know when I was still developing, there were times that I'd just remove glasses altogether to read the screen.

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                            • C charlieg

                              No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                              Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                              You didn't by any chance get tri-focal progressives. I found the reading band with these to be too small and dropped back to bi-focal progressives.

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                              • C charlieg

                                No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                                Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                Kirk 10389821
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                                Charlie, I hate progressives, and prefer bifocals to the point that I had my daughter in bifocals at a young age (she has since outgrown the need for glasses, and that's the point). Myopia can be slowly reversed (I halted my progression 3 decades ago, when I learned it is worsened by getting glasses for near-sighted people, and sitting in front of a computer. You are using binoculars to read the screen, in effect). So I switched to ONE pair of LIGHTLY prescribed reading glasses (the Ophthalmologist fought with me!), and 1 month later, he had to lower the Rx in my REGULAR glasses (used for driving and true distance), he was shocked, and suddenly interested! Amazingly, for 10 years, my Rx never changed (Later I learned if I had lowered my "Computer Glasses" Rx slightly every year, I could have probably reversed further... 30 years later, as in recently). 20 years ago, I got LASIK. I go out of my way to setup my monitors so I do NOT SQUINT or have trouble focusing. I have a 55" 4K monitor, logically divided into 4 monitors of 1920x1080. At 54, I am starting to need reading glasses only for small print (I swear some bottles are using font s that did NOT EXIST 20 years ago)... And that's after spending 10+ hrs/day in front of the computer. After the LASIK I did not wear any glasses. What a gift. == So, my advice, glasses are CHEAP vs. the value of your eyes. Spend a few THOUSAND dollars if you have to making the glasses YOU NEED (finding your recipe). If you need 3 fields of vision, or 2, that's up to you, but the goal should ALWAYS BE: No Eye Strain/No Focusing Effort for each field of vision in front of the computer/reading. How do you accomplish this? I get paper... And I Print out what my screen reflects, trying to match PERFECTLY the screens I look at (I post-it to the monitor, and get it as close as possible). I bring in a book or other text I read in front of me, to the eye doctor (I just saw him for my 5yr follow-up). I have him dilate my eyes, and he holds the paper the same distance my monitor(s) sit from me. He adjusts it forward/back and tells me how far to set my monitors so I don't have to ACQUIRE the image! I then attempt to read the normal paper/books at normal distance. This represents my 2 primary fields. At 54, I can say he said their is NO NEED for glasses, except maybe readers if I want to have them. His father did my LASIK, he has my full history. And if he said I should be using glasses in front of the computer, we would get the S

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                                • C charlieg

                                  No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                                  Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                  Progressive lenses didn't work for me going back over 10 years ago. I went to two sets of glasses, one for distance, and another for closer work. Eventually I simply adjusted things so I can do coding without glasses. Keep in mind I don't use a built-in notebook display, but a 23" flat panel hooked up to two notebooks with a KVM switch.

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                                  • C charlieg

                                    No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                                    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                    I still use my glasses just for reading and computer work. The only issue I have with my glasses is that when I read, I tend to keep my books closer than a computer screen. As a result, for my computer work, I am still using an old pair of glasses that I got back in the 1990s. They basically still work for me. And I am 70... For distances, I have never really used any prescriptions provided because they seem to make things worse than better. I have an astigmatism in my right eye that keeps changing making any prescription for distance lenses rather useless...

                                    Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                                      No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                                      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                      This did not go where I thought it was going to go.

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                                      • C charlieg

                                        No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                                        Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                        Bruce Patin
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                                        I only wear progressive eye glasses in the evening at bedtime. During the day, I wear progressive contact lenses. They are unreliable from one set to the other. Sometimes, I need to use reading glasses with them to code.

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                                        • C charlieg

                                          No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.

                                          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                          I never got used to progressive lenses. Bifocals worked better for me.

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