Microsoft TCP/IP stack weirdness - anyone else having issues after the last update?
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I went to download something this morning and I was downloading at a paltry 6MB/s and change. (about 50MBits/s) Normally it's closer to 25MB/s (200MBits/s) I spent 20 minutes dealing with my ISP - between furbling through their automated system and troubleshooting with the rep (a very pleasant and competent woman. On an unrelated note I always feel good about getting Indians versus Americans on tech support. For some reason they tend to know what they're doing more of the time, in my experience and I'm used to their accents anyway so they aren't hard to understand over the phone. I think that puts me in the minority with respect to that opinion though) Anyway, after going through the motions of restarting the modem, and checking my wireless LAN for any interlopers, I finally rebooted my machine. I figured I might as well. I kind of enjoy it, since it starts windows so fast. All of the sudden my download speeds are back up to where they're supposed to be, but my upload speed is now averaging about 1.7MBits/s. Far worse than what it was before the reboot, and obviously not even close to reflective of my ISP's connection speeds with this package. What the heck, Microsoft? Your "security" updates *always* elephanted. Just stop trying.
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I went to download something this morning and I was downloading at a paltry 6MB/s and change. (about 50MBits/s) Normally it's closer to 25MB/s (200MBits/s) I spent 20 minutes dealing with my ISP - between furbling through their automated system and troubleshooting with the rep (a very pleasant and competent woman. On an unrelated note I always feel good about getting Indians versus Americans on tech support. For some reason they tend to know what they're doing more of the time, in my experience and I'm used to their accents anyway so they aren't hard to understand over the phone. I think that puts me in the minority with respect to that opinion though) Anyway, after going through the motions of restarting the modem, and checking my wireless LAN for any interlopers, I finally rebooted my machine. I figured I might as well. I kind of enjoy it, since it starts windows so fast. All of the sudden my download speeds are back up to where they're supposed to be, but my upload speed is now averaging about 1.7MBits/s. Far worse than what it was before the reboot, and obviously not even close to reflective of my ISP's connection speeds with this package. What the heck, Microsoft? Your "security" updates *always* elephanted. Just stop trying.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
What the heck, Microsoft? Your "security" are updates *always* elephanted. Just stop trying.
Complaining about updates? You can turn those off. We choose not to.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
What the heck, Microsoft? Your "security" are updates *always* elephanted. Just stop trying.
Complaining about updates? You can turn those off. We choose not to.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Turning them off leads to other problems. With microsoft you just can't win for losing.
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Turning them off leads to other problems. With microsoft you just can't win for losing.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
Turning them off leads to other problems.
His choice; and the fact 'e's complaing, proves 'e think there a better alternative. Easy alternative is to not update.
honey the codewitch wrote:
With microsoft you just can't win for losing
Is it? Did you try OS4 warp?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
Turning them off leads to other problems.
His choice; and the fact 'e's complaing, proves 'e think there a better alternative. Easy alternative is to not update.
honey the codewitch wrote:
With microsoft you just can't win for losing
Is it? Did you try OS4 warp?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
IBM doesn't know how to build operating systems. Every operating system they've ever inflicted on the world proves it.
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I went to download something this morning and I was downloading at a paltry 6MB/s and change. (about 50MBits/s) Normally it's closer to 25MB/s (200MBits/s) I spent 20 minutes dealing with my ISP - between furbling through their automated system and troubleshooting with the rep (a very pleasant and competent woman. On an unrelated note I always feel good about getting Indians versus Americans on tech support. For some reason they tend to know what they're doing more of the time, in my experience and I'm used to their accents anyway so they aren't hard to understand over the phone. I think that puts me in the minority with respect to that opinion though) Anyway, after going through the motions of restarting the modem, and checking my wireless LAN for any interlopers, I finally rebooted my machine. I figured I might as well. I kind of enjoy it, since it starts windows so fast. All of the sudden my download speeds are back up to where they're supposed to be, but my upload speed is now averaging about 1.7MBits/s. Far worse than what it was before the reboot, and obviously not even close to reflective of my ISP's connection speeds with this package. What the heck, Microsoft? Your "security" updates *always* elephanted. Just stop trying.
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I think this might be related: The Insider News[^]
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I think this might be related: The Insider News[^]
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
That was my first thought too, and I'd put money on it. As it is after that update I had to uninstall and reinstall my network devices.
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I went to download something this morning and I was downloading at a paltry 6MB/s and change. (about 50MBits/s) Normally it's closer to 25MB/s (200MBits/s) I spent 20 minutes dealing with my ISP - between furbling through their automated system and troubleshooting with the rep (a very pleasant and competent woman. On an unrelated note I always feel good about getting Indians versus Americans on tech support. For some reason they tend to know what they're doing more of the time, in my experience and I'm used to their accents anyway so they aren't hard to understand over the phone. I think that puts me in the minority with respect to that opinion though) Anyway, after going through the motions of restarting the modem, and checking my wireless LAN for any interlopers, I finally rebooted my machine. I figured I might as well. I kind of enjoy it, since it starts windows so fast. All of the sudden my download speeds are back up to where they're supposed to be, but my upload speed is now averaging about 1.7MBits/s. Far worse than what it was before the reboot, and obviously not even close to reflective of my ISP's connection speeds with this package. What the heck, Microsoft? Your "security" updates *always* elephanted. Just stop trying.
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I find the "foreign offices" tend to find problems preemptively: "Hello, your IT department informed us you have a problem ... please download, etc.".
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I find the "foreign offices" tend to find problems preemptively: "Hello, your IT department informed us you have a problem ... please download, etc.".
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
I've worked with quite a few Indians - like, Indian nationals over here on a work visa. It's probably selection bias just because of the type of people who can get work visas in the US, but nearly to the person, every one I've had the pleasure of working with has been ruthlessly competent - and that's praise I don't offer lightly. So that probably contributes to my biases toward Indian nationals in IT, whether it's tech support or software development. I'm not sure if it's politic to just air my biases like that in polite company, but whatevs. I favor working with Indians as a rule. I hate being interviewed by them though. :laugh:
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I've worked with quite a few Indians - like, Indian nationals over here on a work visa. It's probably selection bias just because of the type of people who can get work visas in the US, but nearly to the person, every one I've had the pleasure of working with has been ruthlessly competent - and that's praise I don't offer lightly. So that probably contributes to my biases toward Indian nationals in IT, whether it's tech support or software development. I'm not sure if it's politic to just air my biases like that in polite company, but whatevs. I favor working with Indians as a rule. I hate being interviewed by them though. :laugh:
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I've worked with Indians too ... I trained them to do my job when the company I was working for at the time outsourced the entire department. I was paid 60K (extra) to stay on and complete the 6 months of training ... so, no hard feelings. :-D
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I've worked with Indians too ... I trained them to do my job when the company I was working for at the time outsourced the entire department. I was paid 60K (extra) to stay on and complete the 6 months of training ... so, no hard feelings. :-D
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
"How easy were they to train?" would be the first question that occurred to me. I think outsourcing is often a bad idea, but not because of foreign developers so much as the challenges of managing a project over seas and also navigating often very different cultures and sometimes languages which makes communication and choreography a problem. At the end of the day it trades shedding development costs and offloading the day to day mechanics of it with much more cost in terms of managing the project in such a way that it can be successful, and my experience is that most companies do not understand that, and their management is ill equipped to handle it, especially the first time. It's a good way to make a project fail in an industry where failure is already all too common. I think if you added up all of the hidden costs associated with outsourcing and stacked it up against the benefits, and then looked at the industry as a whole you'd find it does more harm than good, but I haven't run the numbers. It's just a hunch.
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"How easy were they to train?" would be the first question that occurred to me. I think outsourcing is often a bad idea, but not because of foreign developers so much as the challenges of managing a project over seas and also navigating often very different cultures and sometimes languages which makes communication and choreography a problem. At the end of the day it trades shedding development costs and offloading the day to day mechanics of it with much more cost in terms of managing the project in such a way that it can be successful, and my experience is that most companies do not understand that, and their management is ill equipped to handle it, especially the first time. It's a good way to make a project fail in an industry where failure is already all too common. I think if you added up all of the hidden costs associated with outsourcing and stacked it up against the benefits, and then looked at the industry as a whole you'd find it does more harm than good, but I haven't run the numbers. It's just a hunch.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
"How easy were they to train?" would be the first question that occurred to me.
In my personal experience... usually hard, really hard. But not because of incompetence, what I observed was because of pure lazyness... if you are lucky and you find one that really wants to learn, then it is a pleasure, but still a bit hard, because we think in different ways. One thing that I experienced is that they are damn good when it goes to repetitive processes. Once they have learnt it, they usually do it well, but in most of the cases don't expect alternative or logical thinking. But, I have to say I didn't really worked with software developers or so, I worked with factory guys where we were the "experts" to teach or switch on new processes. What limits a bit the experiences horizon speaking about specialists.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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"How easy were they to train?" would be the first question that occurred to me. I think outsourcing is often a bad idea, but not because of foreign developers so much as the challenges of managing a project over seas and also navigating often very different cultures and sometimes languages which makes communication and choreography a problem. At the end of the day it trades shedding development costs and offloading the day to day mechanics of it with much more cost in terms of managing the project in such a way that it can be successful, and my experience is that most companies do not understand that, and their management is ill equipped to handle it, especially the first time. It's a good way to make a project fail in an industry where failure is already all too common. I think if you added up all of the hidden costs associated with outsourcing and stacked it up against the benefits, and then looked at the industry as a whole you'd find it does more harm than good, but I haven't run the numbers. It's just a hunch.
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I had previously documented the entire accounting system using multi-level interactive Visio diagrams ... the thing taught itself; I just sat beside them while they navigated (they flew in from India). Needless to say, all "new" development stopped; they would be in support mode for the next x years. Don't know where they are now ... might be converting to SAP.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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IBM doesn't know how to build operating systems. Every operating system they've ever inflicted on the world proves it.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
IBM doesn't know how to build operating systems.
So, both IBM and MS make bad operating systems, that what you saying? My favorite is the AmigaOS. Yours, I'd guess to be Linux, since you disapprove of the mainstream.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
IBM doesn't know how to build operating systems.
So, both IBM and MS make bad operating systems, that what you saying? My favorite is the AmigaOS. Yours, I'd guess to be Linux, since you disapprove of the mainstream.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
I don't like Linux either. Its updates destroy my MBR on my hard drive. Really, about the only reliable OS i've used lately is FreeRTOS, but that's not appropriate for a desktop machine. I'm a windows dev primarily, so I run windows. I want it to *work* though. Microsoft has been really frustrating in recent years. I'm not a fan of windows 10, but at least it's better than 8.
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I don't like Linux either. Its updates destroy my MBR on my hard drive. Really, about the only reliable OS i've used lately is FreeRTOS, but that's not appropriate for a desktop machine. I'm a windows dev primarily, so I run windows. I want it to *work* though. Microsoft has been really frustrating in recent years. I'm not a fan of windows 10, but at least it's better than 8.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
Really, about the only reliable OS i've used lately is FreeRTOS
Amiga, multi tasking OS. In half a megabyte. All that Windows does.
honey the codewitch wrote:
Microsoft has been really frustrating in recent years. I'm not a fan of windows 10, but at least it's better than 8.
So.. you too young to remember Win ME?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
Really, about the only reliable OS i've used lately is FreeRTOS
Amiga, multi tasking OS. In half a megabyte. All that Windows does.
honey the codewitch wrote:
Microsoft has been really frustrating in recent years. I'm not a fan of windows 10, but at least it's better than 8.
So.. you too young to remember Win ME?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
I was working at Microsoft when it was released. We all made fun of it, just not to our PMs. If they didn't plan on ME being the last win9x offering, WinME made sure it was.
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I went to download something this morning and I was downloading at a paltry 6MB/s and change. (about 50MBits/s) Normally it's closer to 25MB/s (200MBits/s) I spent 20 minutes dealing with my ISP - between furbling through their automated system and troubleshooting with the rep (a very pleasant and competent woman. On an unrelated note I always feel good about getting Indians versus Americans on tech support. For some reason they tend to know what they're doing more of the time, in my experience and I'm used to their accents anyway so they aren't hard to understand over the phone. I think that puts me in the minority with respect to that opinion though) Anyway, after going through the motions of restarting the modem, and checking my wireless LAN for any interlopers, I finally rebooted my machine. I figured I might as well. I kind of enjoy it, since it starts windows so fast. All of the sudden my download speeds are back up to where they're supposed to be, but my upload speed is now averaging about 1.7MBits/s. Far worse than what it was before the reboot, and obviously not even close to reflective of my ISP's connection speeds with this package. What the heck, Microsoft? Your "security" updates *always* elephanted. Just stop trying.
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All updates; currently chugging at 26.7 Mb/s for a 35.88 GB game download. (It's cold out there)
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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All updates; currently chugging at 26.7 Mb/s for a 35.88 GB game download. (It's cold out there)
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
We must have the same internet package. And weather (it's snowing here!) Do you play fallout 4? It's one of my favorite games because I can play against the game developers rather than the game itself. :-D
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We must have the same internet package. And weather (it's snowing here!) Do you play fallout 4? It's one of my favorite games because I can play against the game developers rather than the game itself. :-D
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I like the role-playing games (PlayStation and Fallout) but I like the faster pace of the real-time strategy games (XBox / PC and the Age of Empires franchise) just a wee bit better: one mistake can blow the whole game wide open.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food