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  • pkfoxP pkfox

    When I trained at Vickers Armstrong (what became British Aerospace ) in Weybridge Surrey UK in 1968 ( I was fifteen ) , there was a TSR2 on the runway, I sat beside it several times and ate my sandwiches. It never flew again as far as I know.

    "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Banana in the tailpipe?

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      You'll get a bad reputation.

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      Too late! :)

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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        Not a bad choice. I remember reading a science fiction novel where an SR-71 pilot somehow managed to travel back in time to World War II. They refueled him with kerosene, IIRC. Of course the tricky thing about the SR-71 is that they only partially fueled it to start. The pilot would then fly back and forth to raise the skin temperature enough to tighten all the joins, and then they'd do final fueling from a tanker in the air.

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        Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

        The pilot would then fly back and forth to raise the skin temperature enough to tighten all the joins,

        I've read that they would leak like a sieve if not up to temperature. But when passing bullets like they are standing still is on the menu I could live with that!

        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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        • pkfoxP pkfox

          When I trained at Vickers Armstrong (what became British Aerospace ) in Weybridge Surrey UK in 1968 ( I was fifteen ) , there was a TSR2 on the runway, I sat beside it several times and ate my sandwiches. It never flew again as far as I know.

          "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          TSR2 the coolest Jet of the '60s!

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            Airfish: This Sea-Craft Looks Like A Plane, Has A Car's Engine, And Docks Like A Boat - YouTube[^]

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            A development of the Caspian Sea Monster! an 'Acranoplan'

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            • F Forogar

              If you could have any kind of private jet, which type/brand would you choose? [Asking for a friend.]

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Rick York
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              My company has a few of them. I like the Hawkers. It's nice to turn a nine-hour drive into an hour-and-half flight.

              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              • F Forogar

                When I worked at British Aerospace I saw (and heard) one of those taking off on full reheat. Toddled down the runway, lifted off slightly, rotated to 90 degree straight up and whoosh! Gone up through the clouds in seconds! Power to weight ratio of greater than 1 - which means it could accelerate while going perpendicular!

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                At an air show near San Diego some years ago I saw a Harrier "jump jet" do its thing. Appeared for what looked like it would be a normal landing. Then just stopped. In the air. Danced forwards backwards and sideways along the strip at about 100 ft altitude. Then it got REALLY noisy, rotated to stand on its tail. And disappeared vertically.

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                • R Rage

                  You probably mean 737 - but they do not fullfill the reliable requirement. A380 are also going to be pretty´cheap soon.

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  markrlondon
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                  No, I did mean 747s. Almost all 747s have been permanently retired from passenger service worldwide. It happened very quickly. At first, for many airlines, their 747s were just temporarily mothballed due to the pandemic but almost all airlines worldwide have now decided to permanently retire them. Most airlines were planning to retire their 747s within a few years anyway but the plans have been rapidly brought forward. See news article here for example: British Airways retires entire Boeing 747 fleet on coronavirus travel slump | Deccan Herald[^]

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                  • G glennPattonWork3

                    TSR2 the coolest Jet of the '60s!

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                    Yes it was an incredible machine - unfortunately Harold Wilson scrapped it - years later we got the Harrier but the TSR2 was first.

                    "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                      The pilot would then fly back and forth to raise the skin temperature enough to tighten all the joins,

                      I've read that they would leak like a sieve if not up to temperature. But when passing bullets like they are standing still is on the menu I could live with that!

                      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      There's a book about the SR-71 written by one of its long-term pilots I've always meant to read, full of stories.

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                      • pkfoxP pkfox

                        Yes it was an incredible machine - unfortunately Harold Wilson scrapped it - years later we got the Harrier but the TSR2 was first.

                        "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                        The TSR2 had several issues, before VLSI everything had to hand wired making it very labour intensive to maintain & the slab side fuselarge would mean at low level you would get blown around (the US Navy had the same issue with the A5) at the point in time the Hawker P1127 Kestrel was showing promise and became the Harrier (Once it was realised the supersonic Pegasus engine would destroy what ever surface it was landing/taking off from). Still a really cool machine though, lots of theories why TS2 was scrapped.

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                        • P Peter_in_2780

                          At an air show near San Diego some years ago I saw a Harrier "jump jet" do its thing. Appeared for what looked like it would be a normal landing. Then just stopped. In the air. Danced forwards backwards and sideways along the strip at about 100 ft altitude. Then it got REALLY noisy, rotated to stand on its tail. And disappeared vertically.

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                          glennPattonWork3
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                          To this day the only aircraft that can fly backward in wing born flight! :omg:

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                          • F Forogar

                            If you could have any kind of private jet, which type/brand would you choose? [Asking for a friend.]

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            A B-2 stealth bomber. I bet you didn't see that coming. :-\

                            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                            • J jeron1

                              Probably the SR-71 Blackbird[^]. You know, for all those times I have to go from LA to New York in about an hour. ;)

                              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                              Leo56
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                              But be careful not to forget the obligatory speed check with LAX! :laugh:

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                              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                A B-2 stealth bomber. I bet you didn't see that coming. :-\

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                Rich Leyshon
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                                One year, probably late 90s, the B2 did a flypast at the Farnborough Airshow. We had a battlefield radar (plus hopefully dummy missiles) on the ground, not too far from the runway. It DID see it coming and when the pictures were published, the Americans were none too happy by all accounts.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Invisible, like Wonder Woman's.

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                  sasadler
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                                  Wouldn't that be hard to park?? :)

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                                    Wouldn't that be hard to park?? :)

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                                    OriginalGriff
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                                    Only for other people.

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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                                    • F Forogar

                                      If you could have any kind of private jet, which type/brand would you choose? [Asking for a friend.]

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      Carlos Perez Chavez
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                                      Millenium Falcon

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                                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                        Joan

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                                        BernardIE5317
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                                        The more you have the less you need. Sounds logical to me.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Invisible, like Wonder Woman's.

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                          Kirk 10389821
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                                          Yeah, I wanted to have an invisible car... until my dad ask "How would other cars know not to hit you?"

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