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  • F Forogar

    When I worked at British Aerospace I saw (and heard) one of those taking off on full reheat. Toddled down the runway, lifted off slightly, rotated to 90 degree straight up and whoosh! Gone up through the clouds in seconds! Power to weight ratio of greater than 1 - which means it could accelerate while going perpendicular!

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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    Peter_in_2780
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    At an air show near San Diego some years ago I saw a Harrier "jump jet" do its thing. Appeared for what looked like it would be a normal landing. Then just stopped. In the air. Danced forwards backwards and sideways along the strip at about 100 ft altitude. Then it got REALLY noisy, rotated to stand on its tail. And disappeared vertically.

    Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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      You probably mean 737 - but they do not fullfill the reliable requirement. A380 are also going to be pretty´cheap soon.

      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      markrlondon
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      No, I did mean 747s. Almost all 747s have been permanently retired from passenger service worldwide. It happened very quickly. At first, for many airlines, their 747s were just temporarily mothballed due to the pandemic but almost all airlines worldwide have now decided to permanently retire them. Most airlines were planning to retire their 747s within a few years anyway but the plans have been rapidly brought forward. See news article here for example: British Airways retires entire Boeing 747 fleet on coronavirus travel slump | Deccan Herald[^]

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        TSR2 the coolest Jet of the '60s!

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        Yes it was an incredible machine - unfortunately Harold Wilson scrapped it - years later we got the Harrier but the TSR2 was first.

        "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

          The pilot would then fly back and forth to raise the skin temperature enough to tighten all the joins,

          I've read that they would leak like a sieve if not up to temperature. But when passing bullets like they are standing still is on the menu I could live with that!

          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          There's a book about the SR-71 written by one of its long-term pilots I've always meant to read, full of stories.

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          • pkfoxP pkfox

            Yes it was an incredible machine - unfortunately Harold Wilson scrapped it - years later we got the Harrier but the TSR2 was first.

            "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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            glennPattonWork3
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            The TSR2 had several issues, before VLSI everything had to hand wired making it very labour intensive to maintain & the slab side fuselarge would mean at low level you would get blown around (the US Navy had the same issue with the A5) at the point in time the Hawker P1127 Kestrel was showing promise and became the Harrier (Once it was realised the supersonic Pegasus engine would destroy what ever surface it was landing/taking off from). Still a really cool machine though, lots of theories why TS2 was scrapped.

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            • P Peter_in_2780

              At an air show near San Diego some years ago I saw a Harrier "jump jet" do its thing. Appeared for what looked like it would be a normal landing. Then just stopped. In the air. Danced forwards backwards and sideways along the strip at about 100 ft altitude. Then it got REALLY noisy, rotated to stand on its tail. And disappeared vertically.

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              glennPattonWork3
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              To this day the only aircraft that can fly backward in wing born flight! :omg:

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              • F Forogar

                If you could have any kind of private jet, which type/brand would you choose? [Asking for a friend.]

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                Daniel Pfeffer
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                A B-2 stealth bomber. I bet you didn't see that coming. :-\

                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  Probably the SR-71 Blackbird[^]. You know, for all those times I have to go from LA to New York in about an hour. ;)

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                  Leo56
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                  But be careful not to forget the obligatory speed check with LAX! :laugh:

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                    A B-2 stealth bomber. I bet you didn't see that coming. :-\

                    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                    Rich Leyshon
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                    One year, probably late 90s, the B2 did a flypast at the Farnborough Airshow. We had a battlefield radar (plus hopefully dummy missiles) on the ground, not too far from the runway. It DID see it coming and when the pictures were published, the Americans were none too happy by all accounts.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Invisible, like Wonder Woman's.

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      sasadler
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                      Wouldn't that be hard to park?? :)

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                        Wouldn't that be hard to park?? :)

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Only for other people.

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • F Forogar

                          If you could have any kind of private jet, which type/brand would you choose? [Asking for a friend.]

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          Carlos Perez Chavez
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                          Millenium Falcon

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                            Joan

                            The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                            BernardIE5317
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                            The more you have the less you need. Sounds logical to me.

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Invisible, like Wonder Woman's.

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                              Kirk 10389821
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                              Yeah, I wanted to have an invisible car... until my dad ask "How would other cars know not to hit you?"

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                                Yeah, I wanted to have an invisible car... until my dad ask "How would other cars know not to hit you?"

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                                OriginalGriff
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                                Go to YouTube and search "Dashcams Australia"*. Cars don't know not to hit you with a visible one! :laugh: * I know there are others, but the Ozzies just seem to do car crashes so much more professionally. It's almost as if their driving licences are issued via Christmas Crackers ...

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Go to YouTube and search "Dashcams Australia"*. Cars don't know not to hit you with a visible one! :laugh: * I know there are others, but the Ozzies just seem to do car crashes so much more professionally. It's almost as if their driving licences are issued via Christmas Crackers ...

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                  Kirk 10389821
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                                  again, it would only be worse if they couldn't see MY CAR. LOL. Those were crazy! I've always watched the Russian Versions!

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                                  • G glennPattonWork3

                                    BAC English Electric Lightning! If I could afford a jet go big or go home!

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                                    Mark H2
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                                    I thoroughly approve of your choice. Why you ask? My mothers uncle worked for English Electric and designed the wings for that beast (and for the Canberra).

                                    If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                                      I thoroughly approve of your choice. Why you ask? My mothers uncle worked for English Electric and designed the wings for that beast (and for the Canberra).

                                      If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                                      glennPattonWork3
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                                      A true engineer I bet sports coat with leather patches on the sleeves!:thumbsup:

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                                        A true engineer I bet sports coat with leather patches on the sleeves!:thumbsup:

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                                        Mark H2
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                                        Haha, not quite, too high up the food chain I think. But he always drove convertibles with his foot flat to the floor even in his 70's. But he did wear the classic horn rimmed specs :) I found an old photo of the EE design/engineering team with the P.1 (prototype) from around 1954/55 - yes, he's wearing a sports jacket :-D

                                        If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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