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  • S Slow Eddie

    Thank you. I have been looking only at in-stock Items. What are the Ryzen models that compares to the Intel Core I5 ?, Core I7? It would help me in my decision making.

    Can't think of anything pithy to say here. Peach Stone?

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    Dave Kreskowiak
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    Any Ryzen 5000 series destroys anything Intel has out today, including all 11th Gen. To quote GN, the 11th Gen processors released last month aren't worth the sand they we're made from.

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    • S Slow Eddie

      I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

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      honey the codewitch
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      I bought a Mantis setup from "Computer Upgrade King" and I'm really happy with it.. It's basically a gaming rig but without the graphics card, so it has a wonderful Ryzen 7 8 core in it, w/ 32GB of RAM and a 2TB NVMe stick (though it shipped with 512GB and a 3TB HDD) I spent about $1200 for it on amazon, not including tax. I like buying base gaming rigs because they typically have decent quality power supplies and motherboards, good chipsets, plenty of ram and a nice CPU - everything i could want in a quality workstation.

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      • S Slow Eddie

        I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

        Wear a mask. Think of it as charity to others.

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        Dean Hawthorne 2021
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        Once you pick out a motherboard, download the user's manual and see if they have a list of compatible memory brands/models. Some boards are picky about the memory.

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        • S Slow Eddie

          I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

          Wear a mask. Think of it as charity to others.

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          John Stewien
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          I just got delivery of some parts to do my next budget build: CPU+GPU - AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G, the G version has the GPU built into the CPU, did this because GPUs are very expensive right now. This is a nice CPU, but you have to order it from South Korea because it's OEM only. Motherboard - MSI A520M-A Pro, this board specifically supports the above CPU, has HDMI and DVI out on the board, and is low cost. I've had good experiences with MSI. Boards don't fail after 5 years like some other brands I've had. The A520M Pro (no -A) has HDMI and Display Port out on the back, but Display port cables cost extra. RAM - 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3200 16GB kit (2x8GB), "Engineered for the latest AMD platform" SDD - Crucial P2 NVMe M2 1TB, it also comes in 2TB form. P2 is more reliable than the P1, but I've only got good things to say about Crucial in general. Case - Thermaltake Versa H15 with 450W power supply, more than enough power for this build. I have 3 of these cases already, this makes the 4th, good for a neat build. Front panel ports are on top so you don't knock USB or audio peripherals out when you walk past. 2 x 32" 2560 x 1440 monitor with a BOE IPS panel (various brands, I have a Kogan). I love these BOE panels, great color, nice even brightness, supports freesync, and I run at 125% desktop scaling so everything is big and smooth, just the way my old eyes like it. I haven't built it yet, I'm expecting it to be flawless.

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          • R RickZeeland

            You might get some ideas here: best-custom-pc-builder-website/[^] and here: Tom's Hardware Best Picks - Top-Rated Computer Hardware[^]

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            milo xml
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            I used to love Tom's but it seemed like they became less objective somewhere in the late 2000's. Still a fan of Anandtech.com. Been my go to site and they have great guides for different hardware. AnandTech: Hardware News and Tech Reviews Since 1997[^]

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            • S Slow Eddie

              Thanks. with Windows10 taking soooo long to load (at leas on the machines I have, that is a consideration.

              Speed Kills. (Football proverb.)

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              Alister Morton
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              I put a 1TB m2 SSD in my ageing ASRock Z97 mobo and the difference in performance was astonishing. Boot time dropped from several minutes to a few seconds. Everything starts quickly - even LR feels useable. Did a similar drive swap in my other half's ageing Mac Pro 5,1 and she can't believe the performance step up.

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                I put a 1TB m2 SSD in my ageing ASRock Z97 mobo and the difference in performance was astonishing. Boot time dropped from several minutes to a few seconds. Everything starts quickly - even LR feels useable. Did a similar drive swap in my other half's ageing Mac Pro 5,1 and she can't believe the performance step up.

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                Slow Eddie
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                Thanks. That is confirmation I needed.

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                • S Slow Eddie

                  I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

                  Wear a mask. Think of it as charity to others.

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                  Mark Starr
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                  I’m not heavily into hardware, so until recently had usually bought a speced-out PC from one of the big suppliers to avoid any mismatched components. Recently, though, I found an article by SO employee that outlined their standard setup. This is from a couple of years ago, so things have changed, I’m sure. But my build - based on this with a few adjustments - is working great. Nick Craver desktop build

                  Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                  • R Richard FR

                    Not sure what you are going to do with it at work, e.g. will you compile lots of source files? I can tell you the specs of my system: Case: Fractal Design Focus G Blue Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) CPU: AMD Ryzen 5950x GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 SSD: Adata SX8200PNP, 2TB with Icy box cooler: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B077MRDK16 HDD: Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102 RAM: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout, 64 GB CPU Cooler: Noctua nh-d15 se-am4 The middle fan is original Noctua, the outer fan is 120 mm Arctic (F12 PWM PST), since original doesn't fit... Case fans: ARCTIC F14 PWM PST Large RAM limits the need for swap file, so this reduces wear of SSD. Obviously, my system is not a gaming rig, but it still allows CUDA development (device capability 6). For SSD I read you pay a premium for the fastest, but hardly will notice the difference. So I opted for a cheaper 2TB instead of 'the best' 1TB. WD Black SN 750 is a fast alternative. The RAM is a compromise also. It is 3600 MHz, but not the best timings. However, normally instructions and data should be in L1, L2 or L3 cache. The system is very quiet and CPU temps are usually around 31 degrees Celcius, fans rotating around 500-600 RPM.

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                    Slow Eddie
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                    Thank you. I will check those products out.

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                    • M Mark Starr

                      I’m not heavily into hardware, so until recently had usually bought a speced-out PC from one of the big suppliers to avoid any mismatched components. Recently, though, I found an article by SO employee that outlined their standard setup. This is from a couple of years ago, so things have changed, I’m sure. But my build - based on this with a few adjustments - is working great. Nick Craver desktop build

                      Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                      Slow Eddie
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                      Thanks for the referral.

                      See Mark's signature above. Could no agree more. I blame the Physicists.

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                      • S Slow Eddie

                        I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

                        Wear a mask. Think of it as charity to others.

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                        MichaelLuna
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                        Get quiet fans and get a water cooler and make sure the case will fit the water cooler. I love my quite computer. I would go with 32MB ram. I usually get lower end gaming boards, for the performance. I also buy components where the price drop from latest and greatest to next tier. Great performance with the high cost of having the latest and greatest. The largest fastest SAN Is $$$$$$$, the second is $$$$$$ and the third is $$ something like that.

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                        • S Slow Eddie

                          I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

                          Wear a mask. Think of it as charity to others.

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                          betyler42
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                          I just built myself a new work machine just last summer (during the lockdown, but at the start of the chip shortage). Availability of some parts are ridiculous and the prices are worse. I went from 6 year old Intel I-7 Quad core to Ryzen 5 2600 Hex-Core and it is like going from black and white to full color. Save yourself a lot of time, go to pcpartpicker.com, they help you match the components to the architecture, case, power supply, etc. and they even help you find the prices and availability.

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                          • S Slow Eddie

                            I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

                            Wear a mask. Think of it as charity to others.

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                            Richard FR
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                            Not sure what you are going to do with it at work, e.g. will you compile lots of source files? I can tell you the specs of my system: Case: Fractal Design Focus G Blue Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) CPU: AMD Ryzen 5950x GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 SSD: Adata SX8200PNP, 2TB with Icy box cooler: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B077MRDK16 HDD: Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102 RAM: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout, 64 GB CPU Cooler: Noctua nh-d15 se-am4 The middle fan is original Noctua, the outer fan is 120 mm Arctic (F12 PWM PST), since original doesn't fit... Case fans: ARCTIC F14 PWM PST Large RAM limits the need for swap file, so this reduces wear of SSD. Obviously, my system is not a gaming rig, but it still allows CUDA development (device capability 6). For SSD I read you pay a premium for the fastest, but hardly will notice the difference. So I opted for a cheaper 2TB instead of 'the best' 1TB. WD Black SN 750 is a fast alternative. The RAM is a compromise also. It is 3600 MHz, but not the best timings. However, normally instructions and data should be in L1, L2 or L3 cache. The system is very quiet and CPU temps are usually around 31 degrees Celcius, fans rotating around 500-600 RPM.

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                              I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

                              Wear a mask. Think of it as charity to others.

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                              Shmoken99
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                              https://pcpartpicker.com/[^] Shocked that no-one mentioned PC Part Picker? It's great and can warn you about incompatibilities and allows you to create multiple builds and compare them. Also gives price history and comparison of various sites for purchasing. Has build guides for every budget and purpose. Check it out.

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                                https://pcpartpicker.com/[^] Shocked that no-one mentioned PC Part Picker? It's great and can warn you about incompatibilities and allows you to create multiple builds and compare them. Also gives price history and comparison of various sites for purchasing. Has build guides for every budget and purpose. Check it out.

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                                Slow Eddie
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                                thanks. Will check it out.

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                                • S Slow Eddie

                                  I am thinking of building a new desktop computer. I have built several before, so I am competent in that respect. I don't play computer games except for solitaire, So I don't need a "Gaming" computer. I'm looking for recommendations on stuff like Motherboards, CPU, Ram, SSD drives, Optical disk drives, Cases, etc. I want a minimum of 16GB of ram, and 2TB of SSD. Windows10 Pro OS. Yes, I am part of the Evil Empire, and have been for 45 years or so. I expect to buy from Newegg or TigerDirect. Any preferences there.

                                  Wear a mask. Think of it as charity to others.

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                                  I'd consider posting what kind of work you plan to do with the Computer. People are basically telling you how to build a low-end gaming computer here. If it's graphics modelling or something like that then sure get a good system, but if it's more about spreadsheets and wordprocessing then you barely even need a graphics card, especially since many motherboards have a builtin graphics processor now. So, if it's the latter option just pick a motherboard that is compatible with the devices you want and make sure it can support a faster CPU than you are getting, about twice as much ram as you want; this allows you to update the system later as needed without having to buy a new computer right away, that can save you a lot of money in the long run.

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                                    I'd consider posting what kind of work you plan to do with the Computer. People are basically telling you how to build a low-end gaming computer here. If it's graphics modelling or something like that then sure get a good system, but if it's more about spreadsheets and wordprocessing then you barely even need a graphics card, especially since many motherboards have a builtin graphics processor now. So, if it's the latter option just pick a motherboard that is compatible with the devices you want and make sure it can support a faster CPU than you are getting, about twice as much ram as you want; this allows you to update the system later as needed without having to buy a new computer right away, that can save you a lot of money in the long run.

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                                    Slow Eddie
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                                    Ken, thanks for the reply. I do desktop applications with VS2015 and VS2017. Also, a very plain ecommerce website. I am using MS Sql Server as a database. I did purchase a motherboard with onboard video, with all of the other components, some recommended above, and some not. I came in at a shade under $800.00, including tax and shipping. They are supposed to start arriving tomorrow. Hopefully, all of the components work together. I appreciate you, and all of the others who replied with comments and advice. She who must be obeyed will blow a gasket. But to paraphrase Robin Williams, "F*** her if she can't take a joke.

                                    Wear a mask, please.

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                                      Ken, thanks for the reply. I do desktop applications with VS2015 and VS2017. Also, a very plain ecommerce website. I am using MS Sql Server as a database. I did purchase a motherboard with onboard video, with all of the other components, some recommended above, and some not. I came in at a shade under $800.00, including tax and shipping. They are supposed to start arriving tomorrow. Hopefully, all of the components work together. I appreciate you, and all of the others who replied with comments and advice. She who must be obeyed will blow a gasket. But to paraphrase Robin Williams, "F*** her if she can't take a joke.

                                      Wear a mask, please.

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                                      AnotherKen
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                                      Cool, sounds like you have it all covered. Good luck with getting everything together :) If you do have any problems don't hesitate to mention it here, lots of people can help.

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