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  • D dandy72

    My dad's 2019 Hyundai has an annoying "keep your hands on the wheel at all times" warning. And Ford is introducing a vehicle that favors hands-free driving in 2021? Seems like not all car manufacturers are reading the same rule book.

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    DerekT P
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    My Skoda complains if I don't make a steering input every 5 seconds or so. (Normally) fine on country roads but I often have to "weave" on motorways just to keep the car happy. But it does steer me if I let it, and it also once hit the brakes hard when the vehicle in front did an emergency stop. So I do think it's getting there (except it drives me based on the dry line on a fast road, rather than the actual lane markings...). However on the narrow country lanes round here, it would be hopeless. There are too many potholes, missing kerbs, projecting branches, and idiots who drive cars that are more than 50% width of the road... not to mention horses, wildlife etc.. etc.. Ford may plan to sell 100,000 vehicles, but is there anywhere "driving" such vehicles, other than as part of a testing programme, is legal? Or is this going to be like Windows, with public beta testing?

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    • W W Balboos GHB

      Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Wizard of Sleeves
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      I'm waiting for motor racing to upgrade to self driving cars.

      Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.

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      • W W Balboos GHB

        Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        BernardIE5317
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        I'm glad I won't be the traffic officer standing in the middle of the intersection blowing my whistle pointing to the auto-tonomous and hoping the software knows what my waving arms are saying.

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          I'm glad I won't be the traffic officer standing in the middle of the intersection blowing my whistle pointing to the auto-tonomous and hoping the software knows what my waving arms are saying.

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          W Balboos GHB
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          Of course it will know what your waving arms mean:

          Toro! Toro! Toro!

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I know what you mean, but ... it's still better than some of the drunken idiots we get rummaging in the glovebox while texting at motorway speeds past a school ... OK, that's a little exaggerated, but not a whole lot. :sigh:

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            Slow Eddie
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            In New Orleans it is under-exaggerated. I have seen much worse than that around here. My house is in a School Zone.

            Drive at your own risk.

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            • W W Balboos GHB

              Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              Pete Kelley
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              And if there's a software problem can we call it "Buggy Code"?

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              • W W Balboos GHB

                Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Pete Kelley
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                Oh, there were a few movies, and a TV show. "Knight Rider", "Duel",..."Christine".

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                • S Slacker007

                  can't wait to see the car-nage. :thumbsup:

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                  Rusty Bullet
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                  Somehow, SUV just doesn't lend itself to that.

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                  • O obermd

                    Will their turn signals work?

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                    Rusty Bullet
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                    They will introduce that as a "feature" in version 2.1...

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                    • S SeanChupas

                      I've been driving hands-free for over 20 years. This is nothing new. ;) It is interesting to me that society is so afraid to embrace self-driving cars even though if you take one second to stop and think about it, the roads will be many times safer with a computer driving the car rather than a human. But people resist change.

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                      BryanFazekas
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                      Given that self-driving cars can be fooled by lines painted on the road, terror is merited. I recently went through a construction area where I had to guess where the lane was, there were so many conflicting lines painted on the road. Self-driving vehicles will not really work until the software can handle all conditions and/or all roads have the markings 100% maintained. The vendors say the driver has to pay full attention and keep their hands on the wheel. If this is so, why do I need a self-driving car? This is not ready for prime time.

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                      • B BryanFazekas

                        Given that self-driving cars can be fooled by lines painted on the road, terror is merited. I recently went through a construction area where I had to guess where the lane was, there were so many conflicting lines painted on the road. Self-driving vehicles will not really work until the software can handle all conditions and/or all roads have the markings 100% maintained. The vendors say the driver has to pay full attention and keep their hands on the wheel. If this is so, why do I need a self-driving car? This is not ready for prime time.

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                        SeanChupas
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                        BryanFazekas wrote:

                        This is not ready for prime time.

                        Correct. But it won't be long and it is coming.

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                        • W W Balboos GHB

                          Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          Choroid
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                          They have the name all wrong It should be BRAIN FREE DRIVING

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                          • C Choroid

                            They have the name all wrong It should be BRAIN FREE DRIVING

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                            W Balboos GHB
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                            Choroid wrote:

                            BRAIN FREE DRIVING

                            Then it wouldn't have been news, would it?

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            • W W Balboos GHB

                              Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              Martin ISDN
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                              even worse [Embryos That Are Part Monkey, Part Human Raise Ethical Concerns : Shots - Health News : NPR](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/15/987164563/scientists-create-early-embryos-that-are-part-human-part-monkey) business on the Red market by breeding humanoids in prison for their organs and then dispose of the corpse by making it food for the living humanoid prisoners or sell it as a quality dog food

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                                even worse [Embryos That Are Part Monkey, Part Human Raise Ethical Concerns : Shots - Health News : NPR](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/15/987164563/scientists-create-early-embryos-that-are-part-human-part-monkey) business on the Red market by breeding humanoids in prison for their organs and then dispose of the corpse by making it food for the living humanoid prisoners or sell it as a quality dog food

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                                W Balboos GHB
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                                So Belmonte teamed up with scientists in China and elsewhere to try something different.

                                A forgone conclusion - they may be running out of Falun Gong prisoners[^]. They may also want a new export . . . or rather a new source of a current export.

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Quote:

                                  So Belmonte teamed up with scientists in China and elsewhere to try something different.

                                  A forgone conclusion - they may be running out of Falun Gong prisoners[^]. They may also want a new export . . . or rather a new source of a current export.

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Martin ISDN
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                                  seems the world is running out of hand in a hurry

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