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  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

    Super Lloyd wrote:

    It was McAfee ...

    Nuke it from orbit, and never look back. :)


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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    Slacker007
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    beat me to it.

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    • J Jorgen Andersson

      Windows defender, that's builtin is good enough and also quite unintrusive.

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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      Greg Utas
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      I've read various reviews to that effect, so I stopped paying for one. But I have to run periodic scans myself. Not that it should find anything if it's doing its job properly in the first place, but you never know. I haven't noticed a way to schedule this automatically but am probably missing something.

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      • J Jorgen Andersson

        Windows defender, that's builtin is good enough and also quite unintrusive.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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        Super Lloyd
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        Yes, there is that too! :) Thanks for reminder!

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          AV-TEST | Antivirus & Security Software & AntiMalware Reviews[^] You usually are happy with your choice unless something really strange happens on your computer, you install another one and that one tells you had a virus... Those guys are an independent laboratory that stress all anti-virus softwares to check which one works well and which one don't. Hope this helps.

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          Super Lloyd
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          Ha... Another compounding factor to my decision! Windows Defender is a top 10 ! :) Thanks for the link :)

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          • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

            I've read various reviews to that effect, so I stopped paying for one. But I have to run periodic scans myself. Not that it should find anything if it's doing its job properly in the first place, but you never know. I haven't noticed a way to schedule this automatically but am probably missing something.

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            Stuart Dootson
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            [You have to use Task Scheduler](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/schedule-a-scan-in-microsoft-defender-antivirus-54b64e9c-880a-c6b6-2416-0eb330ed5d2d) - Windows Defender doesn't have any shortcuts to make it easy :|

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              [You have to use Task Scheduler](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/schedule-a-scan-in-microsoft-defender-antivirus-54b64e9c-880a-c6b6-2416-0eb330ed5d2d) - Windows Defender doesn't have any shortcuts to make it easy :|

              Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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              That link gives me a useless page, but I found this one[^].

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              • S Super Lloyd

                Bought a new computer Tuesday! In fact I am super happy with my acquisition, spent 1 hour scrutinizing Officeworks website.. Ordered online, go it today, sweet! :) The beats is sleek, and slim, and fast (for its purpose)! nice! :) However, it comes with plenty of pre-installed uselessware, like antivirus. So I presto remove them (antivirus only cause me grief and never did any good) but I got struck by a vague remorse, could it be that today's antivirus are ok? I.e. they don't spend time vampirising all your machine performance... :( It was McAfee Live Safe that I just removed. What say you?

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                Ron Anders
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                Windows 10's built in Windows Defender is sufficient for most heathens. it will be active by default if no other av is installed. It's also out of your way. McAfee is neither live nor safe. I just cleaned so much crap from a customer's live safe'ed windows 10 machine using the usual tech tools. It was so infected they're Open Office would not.... open.

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                  I'm using Kaspersky, so far it's the easiest on the CPU and does not break compatibility with old games or software. Also it's completely local, as opposed to Sophos that went cloud and now is configurable only through an Internet connection, is a cpu hog and will make some software fail silently without any possibility of excluding them. NortNot and McCoughee are laughable, BitDefender came highly recommened and it basically killed two computers that I own so I avoid it, Avast and AVG became worse than the threats they supposedly protect from.

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                  Kaspersky here as well. Only one problem with it so far - it turned on banner reject in Chrome without asking and the CP ads disappeared. I had to find it and whitelist CP to get them back.

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                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                    Windows defender, that's builtin is good enough and also quite unintrusive.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    I used to use it years ago, but it always did a full scan on my system every afternoon - despite being told not to. Since this slugged the computer horribly, I moved to Kaspersky instead.

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      Bought a new computer Tuesday! In fact I am super happy with my acquisition, spent 1 hour scrutinizing Officeworks website.. Ordered online, go it today, sweet! :) The beats is sleek, and slim, and fast (for its purpose)! nice! :) However, it comes with plenty of pre-installed uselessware, like antivirus. So I presto remove them (antivirus only cause me grief and never did any good) but I got struck by a vague remorse, could it be that today's antivirus are ok? I.e. they don't spend time vampirising all your machine performance... :( It was McAfee Live Safe that I just removed. What say you?

                      A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                      Cp Coder
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                      Whenever I buy a new computer for myself or a family member, the first thing I do is to do a clean install of Windows. This is a surefire way to get rid of the cr@pware that comes with the new machine. Then I rely on Defender only for virus protection.

                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        Whenever I buy a new computer for myself or a family member, the first thing I do is to do a clean install of Windows. This is a surefire way to get rid of the cr@pware that comes with the new machine. Then I rely on Defender only for virus protection.

                        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        BryanFazekas
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                        Agreed. Some of the "anti-virus" tools are like a rootkit -- almost impossible to remove unless nuking from orbit. I'm using Windows Defender and MalwareBytes.

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          Bought a new computer Tuesday! In fact I am super happy with my acquisition, spent 1 hour scrutinizing Officeworks website.. Ordered online, go it today, sweet! :) The beats is sleek, and slim, and fast (for its purpose)! nice! :) However, it comes with plenty of pre-installed uselessware, like antivirus. So I presto remove them (antivirus only cause me grief and never did any good) but I got struck by a vague remorse, could it be that today's antivirus are ok? I.e. they don't spend time vampirising all your machine performance... :( It was McAfee Live Safe that I just removed. What say you?

                          A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                          obermd
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                          Smart move. Windows Defender is a better AV.

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                          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                            Super Lloyd wrote:

                            It was McAfee ...

                            Nuke it from orbit, and never look back. :)


                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            Agreed. McAfee sucks Equus africanus asinus[^] genitals.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • J Jorgen Andersson

                              Windows defender, that's builtin is good enough and also quite unintrusive.

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                              Reelix
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                              Windows Defender has a bad rap from the Windows 7 days where it was a piece of hot garbage. You know - The days when AVG was still downloaded from free.grisoft.com and was actually good? Yea - Those days. Windows 10 Defender is actually great. It's slowly gaining in popularity since people are realizing how bloatwared other modern AV's are, and the definitions are constantly updated.

                              -= Reelix =-

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                              • S Super Lloyd

                                Bought a new computer Tuesday! In fact I am super happy with my acquisition, spent 1 hour scrutinizing Officeworks website.. Ordered online, go it today, sweet! :) The beats is sleek, and slim, and fast (for its purpose)! nice! :) However, it comes with plenty of pre-installed uselessware, like antivirus. So I presto remove them (antivirus only cause me grief and never did any good) but I got struck by a vague remorse, could it be that today's antivirus are ok? I.e. they don't spend time vampirising all your machine performance... :( It was McAfee Live Safe that I just removed. What say you?

                                A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                Marc Greiner at home
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                                I have long since uninstalled and deactivated all antivirus software on all my PCs. In 20 years of using antivirus software, the only threats it has reported to me are suspicious emails that I had identified as such and already thrown away. And also a plethora of popups, all as arrogant as useless. Please tell us: Has your antivirus ever reported a threat in the past that was really a threat?

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                                  I have long since uninstalled and deactivated all antivirus software on all my PCs. In 20 years of using antivirus software, the only threats it has reported to me are suspicious emails that I had identified as such and already thrown away. And also a plethora of popups, all as arrogant as useless. Please tell us: Has your antivirus ever reported a threat in the past that was really a threat?

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                                  Super Lloyd
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                                  I promptly uninstalled McAffee.. and I didnt install any alternative. I too generally think that anti virus are a waste of... everything really.. And was looking for possible reason toe change my mind... But as other reminded me, Windows Defender is an anti virus and it does as good a job as any other. So AV are really not needed!

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                                  • S Super Lloyd

                                    Bought a new computer Tuesday! In fact I am super happy with my acquisition, spent 1 hour scrutinizing Officeworks website.. Ordered online, go it today, sweet! :) The beats is sleek, and slim, and fast (for its purpose)! nice! :) However, it comes with plenty of pre-installed uselessware, like antivirus. So I presto remove them (antivirus only cause me grief and never did any good) but I got struck by a vague remorse, could it be that today's antivirus are ok? I.e. they don't spend time vampirising all your machine performance... :( It was McAfee Live Safe that I just removed. What say you?

                                    A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                    Clumpco
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                                    If you are a "safe-surfer" you might be able to get away without an anti-virus, however it is advisable to have one - just in case. I used to believe the hype about Windows Defender being as god, if not better, than other AV solutions, so much so that I left it to do its good work on new PCs that I configured for family and friends. That is until they started getting infected by simple "drive-by" browser attacks. So I have returned to my old standby which is Symantec (not Norton) Endpoint Protection - the client is 'free' and requires no license and will run standalone - you just have to find a copy. SEP is not at all intrusive and you can turn off many of the options if you want (e.g. firewall), but above all it doesn't spend its time trying to protect your credit card, save your passwords or any of the other bells & whistles that commercial AV software tries to use to stand out from the competition.

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                                    • S Super Lloyd

                                      Ha... Another compounding factor to my decision! Windows Defender is a top 10 ! :) Thanks for the link :)

                                      A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                      milo xml
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                                      I've been using the built in Windows AV since Windows 10 and have yet to have an issue. :)

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                                      • S Super Lloyd

                                        Bought a new computer Tuesday! In fact I am super happy with my acquisition, spent 1 hour scrutinizing Officeworks website.. Ordered online, go it today, sweet! :) The beats is sleek, and slim, and fast (for its purpose)! nice! :) However, it comes with plenty of pre-installed uselessware, like antivirus. So I presto remove them (antivirus only cause me grief and never did any good) but I got struck by a vague remorse, could it be that today's antivirus are ok? I.e. they don't spend time vampirising all your machine performance... :( It was McAfee Live Safe that I just removed. What say you?

                                        A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                        Viruses these days are after your data in a sort of brute force attack that slows down your pc more than antivirus software will if nothing is attacking. So, if modern security software is running hard, that means it is protecting your computer from active threats. This is common today, if you plan to run that computer online with no security it will not be long at all before your computer slows down more and more as your cpu cycles are being used by malicious code.

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                                        • S Super Lloyd

                                          Bought a new computer Tuesday! In fact I am super happy with my acquisition, spent 1 hour scrutinizing Officeworks website.. Ordered online, go it today, sweet! :) The beats is sleek, and slim, and fast (for its purpose)! nice! :) However, it comes with plenty of pre-installed uselessware, like antivirus. So I presto remove them (antivirus only cause me grief and never did any good) but I got struck by a vague remorse, could it be that today's antivirus are ok? I.e. they don't spend time vampirising all your machine performance... :( It was McAfee Live Safe that I just removed. What say you?

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                                          nobody158
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                                          TBH for most people windows defender is good enough. I always pair it with setting dns to quad9.

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