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  • G Gary Wheeler

    No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    Restart and update complete: opening a .HTML file in Explorer open it in ... Chrome, exactly as I told it to before the update. Not a problem for me! :-D

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      Restart and update complete: opening a .HTML file in Explorer open it in ... Chrome, exactly as I told it to before the update. Not a problem for me! :-D

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      Gary Wheeler
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      I think this only happens when there are updates to Edge, and it may only happen on certain types of updates to Edge. 21H1 may not have hit the Edge g-spot, as it were.

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      • G Gary Wheeler

        No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        kmoorevs
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        This is why I usually right-click and use 'open with'. I got tired of resetting defaults. :-\ I've learned to live with it. My complaint would be resetting registry permissions after every major update. Why? :confused:

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        • G Gary Wheeler

          I think this only happens when there are updates to Edge, and it may only happen on certain types of updates to Edge. 21H1 may not have hit the Edge g-spot, as it were.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          OriginalGriff
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          So what update did you just install?

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            So what update did you just install?

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            Gary Wheeler
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            It's difficult to tell. Our corporate IT yabbos like to do those things in their own sweet time. Oh wait, there's a history: May 11, 2021—KB5003173 (OS Builds 19041.985, 19042.985, and 19043.985)[^] Don't bother looking at the link. Like most such things from MS, they use lots of words to provide little to no information. "We made changes, duh."

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            • G Gary Wheeler

              It's difficult to tell. Our corporate IT yabbos like to do those things in their own sweet time. Oh wait, there's a history: May 11, 2021—KB5003173 (OS Builds 19041.985, 19042.985, and 19043.985)[^] Don't bother looking at the link. Like most such things from MS, they use lots of words to provide little to no information. "We made changes, duh."

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              OriginalGriff
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              Not just MS, either ... :sigh: I altered my project template so that all my C# projects have two text files embedded: "Revision history" and "Todo" - and the "About" box lets you read them so users can see what has changed through the life of the app.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Not just MS, either ... :sigh: I altered my project template so that all my C# projects have two text files embedded: "Revision history" and "Todo" - and the "About" box lets you read them so users can see what has changed through the life of the app.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                Gary Wheeler
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                I feel your pain. Part of our automated build process extracts change descriptions from comments in the source code. The change descriptions are listed by date. Yours truly follows the directions and provides qualitative descriptions of changes, along with a bug list tag if appropriate. The other folks in my group aren't quite as ... forthcoming.

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                • G Gary Wheeler

                  No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  DerekT P
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                  Despite my repeated rants about Win10 updates, this has never happened to me! :laugh: As others have noted, however, any links I click on in response to Search (as in searching from the taskbar) always open in Edge, which is a complete pain. For those who accused me of delaying my updates too long and therefore bringing all sorts of woes upon myself, after my "full" update on the 22nd which left me with no Update history... checking just now, a new update history is back (with just the most recent one shown), and shows that Win10 did ANOTHER update on the 24th (which I don't even know about) and it's telling me there are another 2 updates (2021-05 KB4601554 pending restart, and 2021-05 KB5003173 downloading; but that's been on 0% for several minutes now). So 4 updates in 6 days??? :wtf: :omg: :thumbsdown:

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                    Despite my repeated rants about Win10 updates, this has never happened to me! :laugh: As others have noted, however, any links I click on in response to Search (as in searching from the taskbar) always open in Edge, which is a complete pain. For those who accused me of delaying my updates too long and therefore bringing all sorts of woes upon myself, after my "full" update on the 22nd which left me with no Update history... checking just now, a new update history is back (with just the most recent one shown), and shows that Win10 did ANOTHER update on the 24th (which I don't even know about) and it's telling me there are another 2 updates (2021-05 KB4601554 pending restart, and 2021-05 KB5003173 downloading; but that's been on 0% for several minutes now). So 4 updates in 6 days??? :wtf: :omg: :thumbsdown:

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    DerekT-P wrote:

                    links I click on in response to Search (as in searching from the taskbar)

                    That's not something I use. I type names to reach applications, but that's it. If I can't remember where I keep my shit, it's time for me to give it up.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Delphi 7 Solutions
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                      I have some luck with the windows updates also, just the one where you get a BSOD when printing on a kyocera I had. But my file associations where not touched by the updates until now, I have firefox as standard and it remains so after updates. So, you are not that lucky after all with updates :)

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                      • G Gary Wheeler

                        No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Daniel Will
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                        "Oh, but our native apps are so much better!" whine them.

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                        • G Gary Wheeler

                          DerekT-P wrote:

                          links I click on in response to Search (as in searching from the taskbar)

                          That's not something I use. I type names to reach applications, but that's it. If I can't remember where I keep my shit, it's time for me to give it up.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          DerekT P
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                          that's one of the things I hate about Win10. You used to go to Control Panel to control things. Now that's being phased out and who knows how to get to a screen to turn on Bluetooth, or check Update History?? Tell me the name of the app that turns on Bluetooth... All I can do is search "bluetooth" and that generally gives me a link to the correct settings page; but not always! Sometimes it turns out to be a weblink that it opens in Edge. :( I use ClassicShell to give me an XP-style start menu where I can organise stuff the way I want it, but I don't even know how - or if - I can create a shortcut to the bluetooth settings (for example). (I can pin the "tile" but I don't want tiles; I just want a shortcut that I can put where I want)

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                          • G Gary Wheeler

                            No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            KateAshman
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                            Edge is better though, that's why I highly recommend it to friends, family and total strangers alike. :D Edit: Chrome eats all the RAM Edge does not and has better privacy and security features

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                            • G Gary Wheeler

                              No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              Rich Leyshon
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                              Another problem seems to have gone away now but for a year or so, every Windows update re-arranged my icons. Okay so, yes, I'm a bad person for having too many icons on my screen but, if I group them together by similar function, I can actually find what I want quickly without trying to remember what something is called and where I stored it (e.g. spreadsheets that I might open 1 or more times a week). Also find that Google Backup & Sync can be a bit sulky after updates and require an extra re-start to all the ones the update asks for. That can be scary e.g yesterday when 2 hours work I did away from home wasn't there on the home PC - but magically re-appeared once it had had a little rest (and well after the icon had finished indicating a sync.)

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                              • G Gary Wheeler

                                No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                grralph1
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                                Well said. The bit that thoroughly convinced me was the;

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                                ....goat-buggering hands off!

                                "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                                • G Gary Wheeler

                                  No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  BryanFazekas
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                                  Check your PDFs. It seems like every few months, after an update, my file associations for PDF documents gets changed to Edge. At the same time, my associations for MS Office are messed up, so I get messages stating Word or Excel is not the default application for their file types. I fix that ... and it gets unfixed later. Animosity between Office & Windows & Edge teams? :-D

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                                    Check your PDFs. It seems like every few months, after an update, my file associations for PDF documents gets changed to Edge. At the same time, my associations for MS Office are messed up, so I get messages stating Word or Excel is not the default application for their file types. I fix that ... and it gets unfixed later. Animosity between Office & Windows & Edge teams? :-D

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    This happens with my .PDF's as well. Adobe Reader has a pretty slick fix for it though.

                                    BryanFazekas wrote:

                                    Animosity between Office & Windows & Edge teams?

                                    Oh no, say it isn't so! Mommy and Daddy are fighting again! (you'll notice I didn't indicate which team was a mother---)

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • G Gary Wheeler

                                      No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      rnbergren
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                                      hasn't happened to me. But I have had to fix my users machines on a very regular schedule. Wrote a powershell script to fix it for them. Put on their desktop. They click and viola it is back.

                                      To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                                      • G Gary Wheeler

                                        No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        Michael Butterworth 2021
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                                        They keep doing the same with PDF's, we use Adobe Creative Cloud and have fully licenced Adobe DC Pro and Edge keeps taking it over!

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                                        • G Gary Wheeler

                                          No, it didn't break my machine. Unlike so many rant posts about Windows Update here at CP I am one of those who has very, very rarely experienced a problem with a Windows Update. In fact, I think the last time was a Windows 7 update that actually broke my antivirus app's kernel device driver, and caused the machine to BSOD. That said, here's my rant: If I wanted to open .html documents in Edge I'd tell you, you overbearing piece of excrement! Leave my f***ing file associations alone! I. don't. use. Edge. I. use. Chrome. Every :elephant:ing time they update Edge they change the file associations on .html and variants of it to point to Edge. It's not my default browser, so keep your misbegotten, slimy, goat-buggering hands off! There. I feel better now.

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          agolddog
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                                          Never had this issue. It does bother me that there's not a chance to defer updates anymore. Doesn't allow for what seems like common events like shutting down on the plane, in a hurry for whatever reason, etc etc.

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