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  • J Jamie Hale

    Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? J

    "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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    David Wulff
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    Money. I buy things. (responsibly). Works a treat as it gives you something bright to look forward to at the end fo the day. Friends try and help, and do to an extent, but other than theat I haven't found anything that works. What is bad for me is that I never had any of this six years ago so like a seeing person who was blinded I know what I am missing out on, and that is like digging in a hole. CodeProject has a great bunch of people and is a great place to work on things, only helped by the number of people willing to go completely out of their way to asist you. (yes I will reply to you btw, you know who you are). I know far too well that when you are really feeling the blunt end of low self-esteem the last person you want to be left along with is yourself. At the recomendation of a friend who suffers from chronic depression (oh the circles I choose to be in!) I have created a journal which I write in whenever I am feeling down. Having to organise your thoughts onto paper or screen helps you sort them out in nyour head as well. I've found it very effective recently to quickly deal with self esteem problems and general depression and get on with things; you may like to give it a try. If you have MSN Messenger, add me to your contacts (e-mail is the same as the one this message was sent from). I love to listen and having someone to bounce thoughts off of when you are low can really help. That is a two way contract though... :)


    David Wulff

    "It is a helpless feeling to be unable to make something so terribly wrong... right."

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    • J Jamie Hale

      Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? J

      "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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      Daniel Turini
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      Jamie Hale wrote: Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? Some people use Viagra :-D I had exactly the opposite problem. I was overly confident on myself. And then, I humbly looked for professional help. It worked: now, I'm perfect, almost a god. ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison

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      • L l a u r e n

        "give me the power to change the things i can change and accept the things i cant change"


        "penguins have no bill"
        biz stuff   about me

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        Shog9 0
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        "...to bury the bodies of those who get in my way where they'll never be found..."

        Shog9

        drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds...

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        • J Jamie Hale

          Hmmm. Trick is, the implied "God" that precedes that quote is where I have trouble. While I do believe in god, I don't feel it's his problem to solve - it's mine. How does one go about gathering the power to accept that which I cannot change? J

          "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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          Paul Lyons
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          Jamie, While I don't consider myself to be a religous person... I learned the serenity prayer attending Alateen[^] as a teenager. The key here is to continually remind yourself that there is only so much in life that you have direct control over. Anyway, the real reason for the reply is to ask if you've ever been screened for depression[^]? (I don't mean to imply anything. Just a thought.) I too had the same problem! Long story short, Major Depression can manifest itself in many ways... I am proof the there is better living through chemicals :laugh:. p.s. Alice's Resturant -> There's a blast from the past :-O Man, I'm getting old!

          Paul Lyons, CCPL
          Certified Code Project Lurker


          What a long strange trip it's been - Robert Hunter

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          • J Jamie Hale

            Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? J

            "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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            Shog9 0
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            Standing out on my back porch watching a cigarette burn into my fingers until i'm ready to face the rest of the world again.

            Shog9

            drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds...

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            • R rondalescott

              Actually it was Paxil that did the trick for me!

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              Paul Lyons
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              Ditto! Still on it. :-D

              Paul Lyons, CCPL
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              What a long, strange trip it's been. - Robert Hunter

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              • D Daniel Turini

                Jamie Hale wrote: Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? Some people use Viagra :-D I had exactly the opposite problem. I was overly confident on myself. And then, I humbly looked for professional help. It worked: now, I'm perfect, almost a god. ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison

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                David Wulff
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                :)


                David Wulff

                "It is a helpless feeling to be unable to make something so terribly wrong... right."

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                • L l a u r e n

                  "give me the power to change the things i can change and accept the things i cant change"


                  "penguins have no bill"
                  biz stuff   about me

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                  Navin
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                  ... and wisdom to know the difference. :) "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein

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                    "...to bury the bodies of those who get in my way where they'll never be found..."

                    Shog9

                    drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds...

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                    Navin
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                    :-D "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein

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                    • A Anonymous

                      Actually, John, I still maintain that starting threads in your profile forum so that people can explain to you exactly why they like you is a perfect example of a lack of self confidence. Is it fair to say that your outpouring of abuse is your way of coping?

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                      I was making sport (that's part of my dry wit). If I was truly concerned about what people thought of me, I wouldn't have provided both questions. You can think what you want and try to over-analize anything I might do, but like everyone else here, you're not qualified to comment on my state of mind, level of self-esteem or anything else like that. So, blow me. :) ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                      • J Jamie Hale

                        Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? J

                        "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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                        Ray Cassick
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                        I found that by keeping a journal of all the positive thnings that I had accomplished and reflecting back on that when I was feeling low and it helped me remember the things that I WAS able to accomplish in the past. When we get depressed we tend to forget all the positive things that we HAVE done in the past and only focus on the current bad situations or our current low self image. I would recomend that that you also consider picking up a few CDs that can help. I HIGHLY recomend Anthony Robbins. Even if you don't belive in what he says, his actions and voice and words are enought o get your mind stirring in the right direction.


                        Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.


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                        • J Jamie Hale

                          Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? J

                          "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Identify your insecurities and then get rid of them. Me, I used to fat, and I was insecure about it. Well, I lost the fat! Seems simple, but few rarely do it. It's liberating actually. Jeremy Falcon

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                          • J Jamie Hale

                            Hmmm. Trick is, the implied "God" that precedes that quote is where I have trouble. While I do believe in god, I don't feel it's his problem to solve - it's mine. How does one go about gathering the power to accept that which I cannot change? J

                            "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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                            Tom Archer
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                            The point of the Serenity Prayer is that there is a higher power that made you who you are (regardless of what you call that higher power) and that you are not asking it to solve your problems for you - the key words in that prayer or "grant me the serenty, the courage and the wisdom". Nowhere does it state that the higher power will be doing anything other than enabling you to take care of your own situations. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

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                            • J Jamie Hale

                              Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? J

                              "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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                              Jamie Hale wrote: What do you do to cope? Once when a wiser older co-worker and myself stumbled upon a screwed up jumble of poorly engineered equipment that we had to fix, I started ranting and raving about it and generally getting all pissed off, he said: "At 80 feet long and weighing over 100 tons the Blue whale is the largest mammal to ever inhabit the earth, yet it's throat opening is no bigger around than yours or mine. There's nothing the whale can do about it. So stop screaming about what 'should be' and hand me a damn wrench." 'nuff said.


                              Work like you don't need the money.
                              Love like you've never been hurt.
                              Dance like nobody's watching.

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                                Jamie, While I don't consider myself to be a religous person... I learned the serenity prayer attending Alateen[^] as a teenager. The key here is to continually remind yourself that there is only so much in life that you have direct control over. Anyway, the real reason for the reply is to ask if you've ever been screened for depression[^]? (I don't mean to imply anything. Just a thought.) I too had the same problem! Long story short, Major Depression can manifest itself in many ways... I am proof the there is better living through chemicals :laugh:. p.s. Alice's Resturant -> There's a blast from the past :-O Man, I'm getting old!

                                Paul Lyons, CCPL
                                Certified Code Project Lurker


                                What a long strange trip it's been - Robert Hunter

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                                Tom Archer
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                                Coolness Paul. I go to Al-Anon and interpret for the deaf-sober AA meeting. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

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                                  Ditto! Still on it. :-D

                                  Paul Lyons, CCPL
                                  Certified Code Project Lurker


                                  What a long, strange trip it's been. - Robert Hunter

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                                  Christopher Duncan
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                                  Paul Lyons wrote: What a long, strange trip it's been. - Robert Hunter The Grateful Dead ("Truckin'") Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                                  • D Daniel Turini

                                    Jamie Hale wrote: Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? Some people use Viagra :-D I had exactly the opposite problem. I was overly confident on myself. And then, I humbly looked for professional help. It worked: now, I'm perfect, almost a god. ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison

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                                    Tom Archer
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                                    Um. Glad to see you got over that over-confidence issue :) Actually, for me personally, I find that one my greatest traits is my almost God-like humility and modesty. Hey maybe you and I should start a club or something :cool: Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

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                                      Jamie Hale wrote: What do you do to cope? Once when a wiser older co-worker and myself stumbled upon a screwed up jumble of poorly engineered equipment that we had to fix, I started ranting and raving about it and generally getting all pissed off, he said: "At 80 feet long and weighing over 100 tons the Blue whale is the largest mammal to ever inhabit the earth, yet it's throat opening is no bigger around than yours or mine. There's nothing the whale can do about it. So stop screaming about what 'should be' and hand me a damn wrench." 'nuff said.


                                      Work like you don't need the money.
                                      Love like you've never been hurt.
                                      Dance like nobody's watching.

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                                      Tom Archer
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                                      Definitely stops you in your tracks. Nice one. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

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                                      • J Jamie Hale

                                        Anyone else here suffer from this? What do you do to cope? J

                                        "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

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                                        Chris Losinger
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                                        Jamie Hale wrote: What do you do to cope? strong drinks long naps staring glassy-eyed into the distance hoping for the end To vote with no response is to follow the way of the coward.

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                                          Definitely stops you in your tracks. Nice one. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

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                                          Same here. I am stopped dead in my tracks wondering what the point of the statement might be. Given how the whale feeds, he has little need for a larger opening. Then again, I was never much on dime store philosophy. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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