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  • D Dan Neely

    DevParty wrote:

    Where are you located? I live not far outside Atlanta in the US and we never shut down completely and have been fine overall.

    Give it time, the Delta variant only started spiking GA's case count again 2 weeks ago. The UK's IIRC about 2 months into Delta. Right now their biggest problem is that a lot of people there got the Astrazenica vaccine which is only around 65% effective in preventing disease (vs J&J at 80% and Pfizer/Moderna around 95%). With delta having an R0 estimated to be between 5 and 8; 65% isn't enough to stop the spread even with most of the population vaccinated. The vaccines used in the US are more effective, but even if they do manage to continue working well enough that 99% of our hospitalizations are in the vaccinated; we've got so many more people refusing them that we're looking at a 4th wave building over the next month or two. [https://covidactnow.org/us/georgia-ga/?s=2069988\](https://covidactnow.org/us/georgia-ga/?s=2069988)

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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    Interesting. I guess we'll see.

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      DevParty wrote:

      Have you not gotten vaccinated yet?

      Yep. Double jabbed. But 60% of the people in UK hospitals, with Covid, have been double vaccinated - which is not convincing me that I'm safe! Yes, I understand the more people that are vaccinated, the higher that percentage will be - but it's not looking like a 'magic bullet' to me right now. :(

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      5teveH wrote:

      But 60% of the people in UK hospitals, with Covid, have been double vaccinated

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      LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 are unvaccinated, correcting an earlier statement he made on Monday.

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      • 5 5teveH

        Yes, I know, there was never going to be a 'good' time - but: Cases up 41% week on week. Hospital admission up 40% week on week. Deaths up 48% week on week. I respect everyone's right to now go back to 'normal' if they wish, but I'm staying in lockdown - particularly now that everyone else is 'free' to infect me.

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        dandy72
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        More deaths than cases? How does that work?

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        • S SeeSharp2

          5teveH wrote:

          60% of the people in UK hospitals, with Covid, have been double vaccinated -

          :omg: :omg: Really? So, basically the UK got a bad batch of vaccines? That's crazy.

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          Nelek
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          DevParty wrote:

          Really? So, basically the UK got a bad batch of vaccines?

          a pic [^] :rolleyes:

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          • 5 5teveH

            DevParty wrote:

            Have you not gotten vaccinated yet?

            Yep. Double jabbed. But 60% of the people in UK hospitals, with Covid, have been double vaccinated - which is not convincing me that I'm safe! Yes, I understand the more people that are vaccinated, the higher that percentage will be - but it's not looking like a 'magic bullet' to me right now. :(

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            Slow Eddie
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            I'm with you. I have received both Phizer injections, and I still wear a mask when I go out of the house. :sigh:

            Nothing is ever easy

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            • 5 5teveH

              Yes, I know, there was never going to be a 'good' time - but: Cases up 41% week on week. Hospital admission up 40% week on week. Deaths up 48% week on week. I respect everyone's right to now go back to 'normal' if they wish, but I'm staying in lockdown - particularly now that everyone else is 'free' to infect me.

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              Slacker007
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              covid forever.

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              • D dandy72

                More deaths than cases? How does that work?

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                Daniel Pfeffer
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                The healthy man dies only once; the COVID patient dies a thousand times. :-\

                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                • L Lost User

                  5teveH wrote:

                  But 60% of the people in UK hospitals, with Covid, have been double vaccinated

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                  LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 are unvaccinated, correcting an earlier statement he made on Monday.

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                  5teveH
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                  OK, that's a bit better. When he said 60% vaccinated yesterday, he did seem quite calm. The rest of us were: WTF! :wtf:

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                    More deaths than cases? How does that work?

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                    5teveH
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                    dandy72 wrote:

                    More deaths than cases? How does that work?

                    Anything possible in statistics. :) ..... It's week on week percentage increase. Deaths are also, currently, relatively low, (200 - two weeks ago; 296 - last week), so it doesn't take many to create a significant % increase.

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                      OK, that's a bit better. When he said 60% vaccinated yesterday, he did seem quite calm. The rest of us were: WTF! :wtf:

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                      Lost User
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                      A bit like me saying "there are no bugs in my code", just before it crashes. :)

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        musefan wrote:

                        is breading idiots.

                        Is that gluten free bread ? ;P

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                        musefan
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                        :doh: It seems stupid is contagious

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                        • 5 5teveH

                          Yes, I know, there was never going to be a 'good' time - but: Cases up 41% week on week. Hospital admission up 40% week on week. Deaths up 48% week on week. I respect everyone's right to now go back to 'normal' if they wish, but I'm staying in lockdown - particularly now that everyone else is 'free' to infect me.

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                          5teveH wrote:

                          Cases up 41% week on week.

                          Gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers up in this racket! Explained: Why Covid-19 cases in the Netherlands surged by 500% in a week | Explained News,The Indian Express[^] Or as they say, if it ain't Dutch, it ain't much :laugh:

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            5teveH wrote:

                            Cases up 41% week on week.

                            Gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers up in this racket! Explained: Why Covid-19 cases in the Netherlands surged by 500% in a week | Explained News,The Indian Express[^] Or as they say, if it ain't Dutch, it ain't much :laugh:

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                            5teveH
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                            Wow! Impressive! :confused: But you guys are ahead of the curve on lifting restrictions (and then re-imposing them :doh: ). I wouldn't be surprised if we are matching that within a couple of weeks and then following your lead on reintroducing lockdown! :(

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                              Wow! Impressive! :confused: But you guys are ahead of the curve on lifting restrictions (and then re-imposing them :doh: ). I wouldn't be surprised if we are matching that within a couple of weeks and then following your lead on reintroducing lockdown! :(

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                              Slacker007
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                              lockdown forever.

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                              • 5 5teveH

                                Wow! Impressive! :confused: But you guys are ahead of the curve on lifting restrictions (and then re-imposing them :doh: ). I wouldn't be surprised if we are matching that within a couple of weeks and then following your lead on reintroducing lockdown! :(

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                5teveH wrote:

                                your lead on reintroducing lockdown!

                                We're in lockdown again!? Wait, were we ever in lockdown? A festival I had planned was cancelled, so I guess something's going on :sigh: Other than that, no one over here seems to mind anymore.

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                                  I'm with you. I have received both Phizer injections, and I still wear a mask when I go out of the house. :sigh:

                                  Nothing is ever easy

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                                  charlieg
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                                  Why?

                                  Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                  • 5 5teveH

                                    DevParty wrote:

                                    Have you not gotten vaccinated yet?

                                    Yep. Double jabbed. But 60% of the people in UK hospitals, with Covid, have been double vaccinated - which is not convincing me that I'm safe! Yes, I understand the more people that are vaccinated, the higher that percentage will be - but it's not looking like a 'magic bullet' to me right now. :(

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                                    Dani6
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                                    Source?

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                                    • D dandy72

                                      More deaths than cases? How does that work?

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                                      Dani6
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                                      Data reporting delay. Need IOT for ICU.

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                                      • 5 5teveH

                                        OK, that's a bit better. When he said 60% vaccinated yesterday, he did seem quite calm. The rest of us were: WTF! :wtf:

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                                        Dani6
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                                        And the other 39.5% had only 1 of the 2 jabs?

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                                        • F Forogar

                                          60% vaccinated? That sounds odd. In the US %99.7 of those being hospitalised are unvaccinated.

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          Dani6
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                                          Darwin process playing out in real-time.

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