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  • M Mike Winiberg

    Used to own a small yacht. Was fine when we lived somewhere you could sail most states of the tide, but when we moved to a harbour where the sea was less accessible it became "1. A hole in the water you pour money into." Unless you really do plan to either sail/motor on rivers or lakes, and almost every day, just hire as needed: it will save you an absolute fortune. I reckon that in out last year we made maybe four trips in total, all lasting much less than a day, and each one cost us well over £1000! Never mind all the time spent maintaining and cleaning etc - and that was on a fibre-glass vessel. Much worse if you have any wood (at all). If you really love boating then fine, but if it has to be fitted in around work etc, just hire!

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    DaveAuld
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    Mike Winiberg wrote:

    if it has to be fitted in around work

    That's the best thing, I have 6 months holiday a year, and live in the sun kissed south east Mediterranean, so available time and weather in our favour.

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      Mike Winiberg wrote:

      if it has to be fitted in around work

      That's the best thing, I have 6 months holiday a year, and live in the sun kissed south east Mediterranean, so available time and weather in our favour.

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      Mike Winiberg
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      Good! If you have the time available then boating can be as uplifting an activity as anything, but if you don't it is just a money sink... They say that the best two days of owning a boat are the day you buy it and the day you sell it. 8) That wasn't entirely true for us, but pretty close nevertheless!

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      • D DaveAuld

        I'm actually looking at something bigger, that was just what we would hire for the day.

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        In that case I would take a look at a boat with a diesel stern drive.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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        • D DaveAuld

          Anyone got a boat? I'm thinking of getting one. After all, we have the weather for it in Cyprus, and don't have the roads for fancy cars! Was going to go and get my RYA Powerboat Level2 and the ICC ticket done. As I would need to anyway. At the moment we can rent boats under 10m on a car license for day use, and have done that a few times. Been looking at a few options, as need to find one that comes with a berth at the local(ish) marina. Berths are hard to get otherwise. When you start digging into things, it's amazing what you learn. All these new terms, things to look for, costs, maintenance, licenses etc etc. Just need to stop spending on astrophotography gear!

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          JohnThornley
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          They say you have two great days with boat ownership: The day you buy it, and the day you sell it! Joking apart, given your location, why not buy a sailing dinghy and learn to sail? It's reasonably easy to grasp the basics after which it's a skill you can improve at for a lifetime. And keeps you fitter than you might expect (depending on how high performance the boat is)

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          • F Forogar

            Your best bet is to have a friend who owns a boat that you go sailing with. I started with a (friend with a) 30ft catamaran which was an exciting sail on the Irish Sea, especially in winter! Later, I upgraded to a (friend with a) 44ft yacht on a lake/reservoir (deep brown muddy puddle) in Oklahoma. Due to being used to the Irish Sea (and thus being a lot braver than the owners) I got the fastest speed they had ever recorded and scared the heck out them! I got invited to go sailing again every time they wanted to scare their friends!

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            Harrison Pratt
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            Yes! Best boat is an "OPB" ... Other Person's Boat.

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            • S Slow Eddie

              There seems to be a trend in the replies you are getting. :laugh: In my experience boats are like swimming pools. People that get them, use them for the first 6 weeks, then never think of them again. The only person I know that actually used their boat over a long period of time was my younger brother, whose hobby was hunting and fishing. The boat was just a means to an end. It was a small flat bottomed "John" boat with a 25HP motor that would take him into the swamps. If you do get a boat, start out buying the smallest brand new boat you can afford. If you really like it, you can always buy a larger more expensive boat. In your shoes I'd start with a Jet-Ski, to see if you like being on the water. Never buy a used boat, as they really will cost you more than you have paid for it. My partner bought a used sail boat because his wife wanted one and at latest count has spent 40 hours working on it to every actual hour spent sailng it. As someone who spent 4 years in the Navy, half of that at sea, the water gets boring pretty quickly. The best times my freinds and I had was when we pulled into port and got Liberty.

              Water is good for drinking.

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              Matt Bond
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              My house came with a large above ground swimming pool. I didn't want it, but I wasn't paying extra for it, so whatever. My wife and daughter never had a pool and like the water, so I maintained it for 3 years. The fourth year I told them it wasn't worth my time. Either they maintain it or it's becoming a pond. Today, five years later, it's a pond with 2 lily plants, 100 goldfish, and zero maintenance except for putting a deicer in in the water for about a week each winter. Everyone is much happier now, and I save several hundred a year in costs.

              Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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              • D DaveAuld

                Chris C-B wrote:

                Just do it

                2 of the guys on the platform have both said the same thing, as you say, Cyprus is made for boats! We rented a few times from Latchi, and spent those days around the west coast from Akamas tip along to Latchi. Lovely to just chill out, snorkeling, swimming, and socialising on the water with friends. Was going to go for something with 2 or 3 cabins so we could at least travel along the south coast etc. Stopping of at the various marinas along the way etc.

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                milo xml
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                Boats are a thing best shared. :) I can see being where you are located how it would get more use especially since you'll have it in a marina and ready to go.

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                • D DaveAuld

                  Anyone got a boat? I'm thinking of getting one. After all, we have the weather for it in Cyprus, and don't have the roads for fancy cars! Was going to go and get my RYA Powerboat Level2 and the ICC ticket done. As I would need to anyway. At the moment we can rent boats under 10m on a car license for day use, and have done that a few times. Been looking at a few options, as need to find one that comes with a berth at the local(ish) marina. Berths are hard to get otherwise. When you start digging into things, it's amazing what you learn. All these new terms, things to look for, costs, maintenance, licenses etc etc. Just need to stop spending on astrophotography gear!

                  Dave Dave's Astrophotography Channel
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                  ttennebb
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                  BOAT - Bring On Another Thousand. Lived on a sailboat for 12 years and I can testify that is a true statement. Fair winds bub.

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                  • D DaveAuld

                    Anyone got a boat? I'm thinking of getting one. After all, we have the weather for it in Cyprus, and don't have the roads for fancy cars! Was going to go and get my RYA Powerboat Level2 and the ICC ticket done. As I would need to anyway. At the moment we can rent boats under 10m on a car license for day use, and have done that a few times. Been looking at a few options, as need to find one that comes with a berth at the local(ish) marina. Berths are hard to get otherwise. When you start digging into things, it's amazing what you learn. All these new terms, things to look for, costs, maintenance, licenses etc etc. Just need to stop spending on astrophotography gear!

                    Dave Dave's Astrophotography Channel
                    Find Me On:Web|Youtube|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

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                    AnotherKen
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                    For that content, I recommend www.yachtforums.com There are a number of experts there who can give very good answers to all kinds of questions about Yachts. One thing I should caution you on, is go small at first. Most people who buy boats end up leaving them at anchor most of the year and that still costs you money in the long run. Learn how to keep your costs down first (while maintaining safety) ;)

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                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                      In that case I would take a look at a boat with a diesel stern drive.

                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                      DaveAuld
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                      Cheers, The one I have my eye on is twin 260bhp volvo penta stern drive.

                      Dave Dave's Astrophotography Channel
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                      • D DaveAuld

                        Anyone got a boat? I'm thinking of getting one. After all, we have the weather for it in Cyprus, and don't have the roads for fancy cars! Was going to go and get my RYA Powerboat Level2 and the ICC ticket done. As I would need to anyway. At the moment we can rent boats under 10m on a car license for day use, and have done that a few times. Been looking at a few options, as need to find one that comes with a berth at the local(ish) marina. Berths are hard to get otherwise. When you start digging into things, it's amazing what you learn. All these new terms, things to look for, costs, maintenance, licenses etc etc. Just need to stop spending on astrophotography gear!

                        Dave Dave's Astrophotography Channel
                        Find Me On:Web|Youtube|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

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                        ormonds
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                        I believe it was an ex president who said "If it floats, if it flies, if it F^&&cks, rent it.

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