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  • D dbrenth

    My teacher asked me to write a program on the board and solve it. I wrote:

    230 - 220 x 0.5

    and announced that the answer was 5! My teacher claimed I was incorrect, but I was not. Can you please explain it to him? Thanks Hint: My teacher was quite embarrassed when I actually said the answer out loud.

    Brent

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    dbrenth wrote:

    Can you please explain it to him?

    Dear Teacher, dbrenth is a cocky little so and so, who needs to be taken down a peg or two. ;P

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    • D dandy72

      I thought about that...but who provides answers as a factorial?

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      I think it was meant as a riddle rather than something that actually happened.

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      • D dbrenth

        My teacher asked me to write a program on the board and solve it. I wrote:

        230 - 220 x 0.5

        and announced that the answer was 5! My teacher claimed I was incorrect, but I was not. Can you please explain it to him? Thanks Hint: My teacher was quite embarrassed when I actually said the answer out loud.

        Brent

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        CPallini
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        You teacher was right, and told you the correct result was actually 76. Could you please tell us why?

        "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

          I think it was meant as a riddle rather than something that actually happened.

          Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
          The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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          dandy72
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          Sometimes I'm just being a little bit too literal. Daniel's answer above suggests we're both on the same page on this one. :-)

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          • D dbrenth

            My teacher asked me to write a program on the board and solve it. I wrote:

            230 - 220 x 0.5

            and announced that the answer was 5! My teacher claimed I was incorrect, but I was not. Can you please explain it to him? Thanks Hint: My teacher was quite embarrassed when I actually said the answer out loud.

            Brent

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            obermd
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            The answer is 120. The way you get "5" is via a flaw in all four function calculators that don't follow basic math order of operations. By the way, the Windows calculator in Standard mode has this same flaw but it works properly in scientific mode.

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              dbrenth wrote:

              Can you please explain it to him?

              Dear Teacher, dbrenth is a cocky little so and so, who needs to be taken down a peg or two. ;P

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              And marked down for not completing the solution.

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              • C CPallini

                You teacher was right, and told you the correct result was actually 76. Could you please tell us why?

                "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                Fueled By Decaff
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                I thought the answer was 78.

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                • F Fueled By Decaff

                  I thought the answer was 78.

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                  CPallini
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                  42. :-D

                  "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                  • D dandy72

                    Sometimes I'm just being a little bit too literal. Daniel's answer above suggests we're both on the same page on this one. :-)

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                    Yeah, you're both on the AR page. :-D

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                    <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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                    • C CPallini

                      You teacher was right, and told you the correct result was actually 76. Could you please tell us why?

                      "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                      Octal

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                        Octal

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        CPallini
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                        Bravo!

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                        • D Daniel Pfeffer

                          You are wrong, the teacher is right. The order of precedence in mathematical operations is (mnemonic PEMDAS): Parentheses Exponentiation Multiplication & Division Addition & Subtraction If two operations have the same precedence, they are evaluated from left to right. Your problem may be rewritten as 230 - (220 x 0.5), the answer to which is obviously not 5.

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                          Keith Barrow
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                          3! - 1 I think you'll find :) It's curious - nearly everyone I know was taught BODMAS - its the same as PEDMAS, but B=Brackets, O="of". PEDMAS is probably better. Also the great Indian chief "SOH-CAH-TOA". I wonder if they still teach the latter in schools.

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                          • D dbrenth

                            My teacher asked me to write a program on the board and solve it. I wrote:

                            230 - 220 x 0.5

                            and announced that the answer was 5! My teacher claimed I was incorrect, but I was not. Can you please explain it to him? Thanks Hint: My teacher was quite embarrassed when I actually said the answer out loud.

                            Brent

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                            Rick York
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                            If you solve it left-to-right, ignoring precedence order, then the answer is 5. An old TI calculator would give you that answer. Today's windows calculator will not: it says 120 because the multiplication is done first.

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                            • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                              Yeah, you're both on the AR page. :-D

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                              dandy72
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                              :-D

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                              • D dbrenth

                                My teacher asked me to write a program on the board and solve it. I wrote:

                                230 - 220 x 0.5

                                and announced that the answer was 5! My teacher claimed I was incorrect, but I was not. Can you please explain it to him? Thanks Hint: My teacher was quite embarrassed when I actually said the answer out loud.

                                Brent

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                                And today you learn that nobody likes a smartarse ... :laugh:

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  And today you learn that nobody likes a smartarse ... :laugh:

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                  DRHuff
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                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  nobody likes a smartarse

                                  Maybe he should brace himself for the reactions to come?

                                  If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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                                  • D dandy72

                                    I thought about that...but who provides answers as a factorial?

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                                    CPallini
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                                    Bernoulli?

                                    "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                                    • D dbrenth

                                      My teacher asked me to write a program on the board and solve it. I wrote:

                                      230 - 220 x 0.5

                                      and announced that the answer was 5! My teacher claimed I was incorrect, but I was not. Can you please explain it to him? Thanks Hint: My teacher was quite embarrassed when I actually said the answer out loud.

                                      Brent

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      Very clever :thumbsup:

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      • C CPallini

                                        42. :-D

                                        "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                                        42! Looks as windoze coders are lacking kindergartner knowledge of math ... no wonder "fake news " are taking over the world

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                                        • K Keith Barrow

                                          3! - 1 I think you'll find :) It's curious - nearly everyone I know was taught BODMAS - its the same as PEDMAS, but B=Brackets, O="of". PEDMAS is probably better. Also the great Indian chief "SOH-CAH-TOA". I wonder if they still teach the latter in schools.

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                                          Dougy83
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                                          I hadn't heard of PEDMAS before; I'm guessing it's some kind of Hollywood holiday.

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