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Right to repair - Even More Important Than Ever

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  • G Gary R Wheeler

    charlieg wrote:

    Multiple cars pushing 200k in the driveway

    Same here. I'm driving a 2002 Honda Civic that's going to have 1 light-second (186,282 miles) on the odometer some time in the next year. I'm totally geeked out over it, as I did the same thing on my first Honda (an '85 Accord).

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    enhzflep
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    :doh: And here I was.... getting excited every time my mileage is a palindrome. You've aimed considerably higher than I.. Missed every digit being the same in my new car by about 5,000 kms. Oh well... only about another 104,000 kms to go! :laugh:

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      :doh: And here I was.... getting excited every time my mileage is a palindrome. You've aimed considerably higher than I.. Missed every digit being the same in my new car by about 5,000 kms. Oh well... only about another 104,000 kms to go! :laugh:

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      Gary R Wheeler
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      You could go for 300,000 km :-D ...

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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        You could go for 300,000 km :-D ...

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        enhzflep
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        Now there's an idea.. :thumbsup: Wish I'd had it when replying earlier. Sheepishly, I'll admit that it only occurred to me around lunchtime (about 2 hours after replying) :doh:

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        • G Gary R Wheeler

          charlieg wrote:

          Multiple cars pushing 200k in the driveway

          Same here. I'm driving a 2002 Honda Civic that's going to have 1 light-second (186,282 miles) on the odometer some time in the next year. I'm totally geeked out over it, as I did the same thing on my first Honda (an '85 Accord).

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          light - second folks epic comment alert!

          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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          • F fgs1963

            Just curious... which of Apple's competitors do you feel is less crass? Google? Microsoft? Samsung? Dell? HP? Lenovo? Why? I ask because they all seem equally crass to me. I know people just as loyal to these brands as I see others loyal to Apple and every one of these brands is out to make money for their investors.

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            dandy72
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            Nobody - nobody is as "religious" about any other company as Apple's fans are. You might have people who are loyal to some of the companies you mentioned, but it's still not a religion to them. Don't confuse brand loyalty with...this. That's the distinction that makes them unique.

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            • D dandy72

              Nobody - nobody is as "religious" about any other company as Apple's fans are. You might have people who are loyal to some of the companies you mentioned, but it's still not a religion to them. Don't confuse brand loyalty with...this. That's the distinction that makes them unique.

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              kalberts
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              ... And in that respect, Tesla is the Apple of the car industry.

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              • K kalberts

                ... And in that respect, Tesla is the Apple of the car industry.

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                dandy72
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                You're probably right, although I don't know enough Tesla owners to form my own opinion on this yet. I actually only know two. One, I haven't yet spoken to and haven't got any of his thoughts, and the other...well, lets just say he got it brand new and it's spent 3 weeks in the shop because of "some electrical problem", as in, the headlights won't even come on. That's about all I know. I'm waiting to talk to him some more to figure out exactly WTF is going on.

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                • N Nathan Minier

                  I've never been an Apple fan, but they are the entire reason that "right to repair" is even required as a concept. I hate the whole company pretty deeply for that.

                  "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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                  mngerhold
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                  Perhaps Apple and John Deere?

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                  • E enhzflep

                    Have you watched any of Louis Rossman's videos? Spoiler Alert: Apple are bastards in ways the others you've mentioned could only dream of being. Around 20 years ago, Apple wanted $80 to _diagnose_ the problem with an $800 ipod. All I'd done was try to transfer files without using their iTunes crapplication. $1000 to diagnose the problem in a $10,000 car - I uh, I don't think so! That shop isn't there any more. The drycleaners next door were there 40 years ago and still are. :laugh:

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                    enhzflep wrote:

                    in ways the others you've mentioned could only dream of being.

                    My experience says otherwise. I've had pretty awful experiences with Microsoft, HP, Compaq, etc... Does Mr. Rossman do any videos about them? Or is he focused on Apple?

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                    • D dandy72

                      Nobody - nobody is as "religious" about any other company as Apple's fans are. You might have people who are loyal to some of the companies you mentioned, but it's still not a religion to them. Don't confuse brand loyalty with...this. That's the distinction that makes them unique.

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                      fgs1963
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                      So your religious hatred of Apple is mostly based on others liking them and less about Apple products / services or the company proper?

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                      • F fgs1963

                        So your religious hatred of Apple is mostly based on others liking them and less about Apple products / services or the company proper?

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                        dandy72
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                        It's not *my* "religious hated", its their fan's blind faith in Apple that gets my goat. Apple can do no wrong in their eyes. The company knows it and they're coasting on it. It's like scientology. You just want to throttle those people and tell them to WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!! They're not the perfect entity they want them to believe, and only exist to exploit them for how naïve they are.

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                        • F fgs1963

                          enhzflep wrote:

                          in ways the others you've mentioned could only dream of being.

                          My experience says otherwise. I've had pretty awful experiences with Microsoft, HP, Compaq, etc... Does Mr. Rossman do any videos about them? Or is he focused on Apple?

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                          enhzflep
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                          He attempts repairs on the machines that people bring him. He doesn't do exclusively Apple stuff. You're right - it would be so much easier to dismiss him if it were obvious he was unfairly biased.

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