Sun Report: J2EE or .NET?
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Check out this link: http://java.sun.com/features/2001/08/j2eewrap.html
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Check out this link: http://java.sun.com/features/2001/08/j2eewrap.html
I hate to be cynical ( and I assume everyone knows how skeptical I am about .Net ), but an independant inquiry commissioned by Sun ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Check out this link: http://java.sun.com/features/2001/08/j2eewrap.html
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I hate to be cynical ( and I assume everyone knows how skeptical I am about .Net ), but an independant inquiry commissioned by Sun ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
You, skeptical about .NET? Never. ;). Seriously though, that was a complete pile of one-sided rubbish. It might as well have been posted on ZDNet. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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Check out this link: http://java.sun.com/features/2001/08/j2eewrap.html
Sun, IMHO, are becoming a fanatical bunch with only one goal in mind: Topple Microsoft by whatever means. Frankly they are making me feel as dirty using them as I feel dirty when using Microsoft! Their tactics are really becoming underhanded and two-faced. I love this bit in the report: "Think about your existing developer skillsets, your existing systems, your existing vendor relationships, and your customers. Those almost always drive the decision, not the minor features." In that case I choose .Net. They might as well have not written the rest of the article! regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org
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I hate to be cynical ( and I assume everyone knows how skeptical I am about .Net ), but an independant inquiry commissioned by Sun ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
heh, kinda like Microsoft asking for an independant inquiry into Linux vs Windows by the Christian Graus Corporation. ;P How skeptical are you about this J2EE then? regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org
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heh, kinda like Microsoft asking for an independant inquiry into Linux vs Windows by the Christian Graus Corporation. ;P How skeptical are you about this J2EE then? regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org
It's really C# I am skeptical of, my comment was more of a caveat, to point out I wasn't bagging Sun as a Microsoft zealot. I don't know the first thing about J2EE, nor do I know the first thing about ASP, let alone ASP.Net or whatever other technologies .Net introduces to the Web centric world. So I would decline to comment on them specifically, I just wanted to say that a report commissioned by Sun is never going to be impartial, no matter what they call it. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Sun, IMHO, are becoming a fanatical bunch with only one goal in mind: Topple Microsoft by whatever means. Frankly they are making me feel as dirty using them as I feel dirty when using Microsoft! Their tactics are really becoming underhanded and two-faced. I love this bit in the report: "Think about your existing developer skillsets, your existing systems, your existing vendor relationships, and your customers. Those almost always drive the decision, not the minor features." In that case I choose .Net. They might as well have not written the rest of the article! regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org
In my pro-MS stand, that is the primary thing I have been trying to get people to realize. Sun, Oracle, Netscape, Linux, etc don't really give a rat's ass about us. They are after money and MS (but not MS Money). Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
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Check out this link: http://java.sun.com/features/2001/08/j2eewrap.html
I used to support Sun and Java, but given the recent train of events, that is no longer possible. Sun wanted Java to be the standard operating system and software development platform on all computers, regardless of manufacturer. Their largest market was on Windows-based PCs, because Microsoft had the fastest, most stable, and surprisingly enough, most Java-complient JVM available to PCs. Sun sued Microsoft because Microsoft modified the class hierarchy in their JVM to allow people to write Java software that would execute faster on a Windows-based PC. Sun claimed that this broke compatibility. Microsoft never forced anyone to use it. They only provided it for those who wanted to. Sun also claimed that because Microsoft didn't support JNI, developers would not be able to write native libraries, and interface them with their Java code. Now, tell me if I'm wrong, but doesn't writing platform-specific code kind of lock you in to a given platform? It is possible to write platform independent code, but most of the JNI work I have done was to talk to video decoders and other high-speed, high-demand libraries that had MMX hacks and so forth. JNI is known to be slower than a snail, and Microsoft's version is quite fast in comparison! If I were Sun, I would be asking Microsoft if they were willing to roll that code back into my JVM, because it was more efficient! And now that Sun has won the lawsuit against Microsoft, and will not allow Microsoft to distribute newer versions of the JVM, they have the gall to complain that Microsoft is not bundling the JVM??? All I can say is that Sun has turned into more of a hipocrite than Microsoft, in many ways. I for one, do not see much of a market for Java any more. The platform-independent dream has become a platform-specific nightmare. X| No great loss in my mind. -- Paul "I drank... WHAT?"
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I hate to be cynical ( and I assume everyone knows how skeptical I am about .Net ), but an independant inquiry commissioned by Sun ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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In my pro-MS stand, that is the primary thing I have been trying to get people to realize. Sun, Oracle, Netscape, Linux, etc don't really give a rat's ass about us. They are after money and MS (but not MS Money). Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
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Like MS is any different? Microsoft hasn't cared about "us" for a long freakin time. "Linux" isn't after anyone's money, but it's damn hard to make money there. However, *RedHat* is after our money, they just haven't come right out and said so yet.
