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    Tomz_KV
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    Dark themes for Visual Studio and other dev environments become more and more popular. There must be some good reasons for it. I thought that was hard to read. I still prefer the traditional light theme with a white background.

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      Dark themes for Visual Studio and other dev environments become more and more popular. There must be some good reasons for it. I thought that was hard to read. I still prefer the traditional light theme with a white background.

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      Tomz_KV wrote:

      There must be some good reasons for it

      23" of pure white light shot straight into my eyes will fatigue my eyesight in less than an hour, causing extreme migraines and a progressive loss of eyesight. Turning down the brightness makes the screen fuzzier and causes focusing issues due to background lighting. No amount of blue light reduction helps shielding from a lamp pointed straight at my face KGB interrogation style. Black/gray background eliminates most of the eye melting effect and allows for very bright characters, increasing contrast and thus visibility.

      GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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        Tomz_KV wrote:

        There must be some good reasons for it

        23" of pure white light shot straight into my eyes will fatigue my eyesight in less than an hour, causing extreme migraines and a progressive loss of eyesight. Turning down the brightness makes the screen fuzzier and causes focusing issues due to background lighting. No amount of blue light reduction helps shielding from a lamp pointed straight at my face KGB interrogation style. Black/gray background eliminates most of the eye melting effect and allows for very bright characters, increasing contrast and thus visibility.

        GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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        Tomz_KV
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        A good reason, very scientific!

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          Dark themes for Visual Studio and other dev environments become more and more popular. There must be some good reasons for it. I thought that was hard to read. I still prefer the traditional light theme with a white background.

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          Mike Hankey
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          It's easier on old eyes like mine.

          The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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            It's easier on old eyes like mine.

            The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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            Tomz_KV
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            Interesting enough, majority of web sites does not use a dark theme.

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              Interesting enough, majority of web sites does not use a dark theme.

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              den2k88
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              I hate them for that - CP included. There are third party browser add-ons that can create dark themes but: 1) They suck if the original fonts are not black and the background is not white; 2) I don't trust a third party free add on that accesses the HTML I'm viewing and modifies it on the fly. Dark themes should be an accessibility feature on par with screen readers compatibility.

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                Dark themes for Visual Studio and other dev environments become more and more popular. There must be some good reasons for it. I thought that was hard to read. I still prefer the traditional light theme with a white background.

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                Amarnath S
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                In this Survey, Survey Results - Dark mode or Light mode?[^], both Light and Dark got nearly equal votes.

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                  Dark themes for Visual Studio and other dev environments become more and more popular. There must be some good reasons for it. I thought that was hard to read. I still prefer the traditional light theme with a white background.

                  TOMZ_KV

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  I do a lot of my coding at night, and the dark theme is much easier on the eyes. Plus running on a 55" 4k screen, all white tends to just be a lot of light.

                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                    It's easier on old eyes like mine.

                    The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                    Lost User
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                    Maybe it's something that would help my 76 year old eyes.

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                      It's easier on old eyes like mine.

                      The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                      Cp Coder
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                      I use the IntelliJ IDE. It has a high contrast dark theme, where dark areas (background) are totally black and fonts can be configured to bright colors of your liking. I love it!

                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        Maybe it's something that would help my 76 year old eyes.

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        It really saves me eye strain, but the contrast has to be stark. These sites with dark theme and gray lettering are really hard to read. I'm 72 and I spend a lot of time in front 9of the monitor so I favor the darker themes.

                        The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                          Tomz_KV wrote:

                          There must be some good reasons for it

                          23" of pure white light shot straight into my eyes will fatigue my eyesight in less than an hour, causing extreme migraines and a progressive loss of eyesight. Turning down the brightness makes the screen fuzzier and causes focusing issues due to background lighting. No amount of blue light reduction helps shielding from a lamp pointed straight at my face KGB interrogation style. Black/gray background eliminates most of the eye melting effect and allows for very bright characters, increasing contrast and thus visibility.

                          GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                          Reducing the brightness on my monitors to 50% at the very most (some to 25%) have caused me zero problems and I've been set up like this for decades. I can spend 16 hours a day in front of a monitor and I can't say eye strain is any issue. I'll be hurting after a 16-hour marathon, but from everywhere else. I'm not seeing the "fuzzier screen" and "focusing issues" you're talking about. All dark mode does for me is make the dust more visible when it's bright and sunny. Of course YMMV and that's fine.

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                            Dark themes for Visual Studio and other dev environments become more and more popular. There must be some good reasons for it. I thought that was hard to read. I still prefer the traditional light theme with a white background.

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                              Tomz_KV wrote:

                              There must be some good reasons for it

                              23" of pure white light shot straight into my eyes will fatigue my eyesight in less than an hour, causing extreme migraines and a progressive loss of eyesight. Turning down the brightness makes the screen fuzzier and causes focusing issues due to background lighting. No amount of blue light reduction helps shielding from a lamp pointed straight at my face KGB interrogation style. Black/gray background eliminates most of the eye melting effect and allows for very bright characters, increasing contrast and thus visibility.

                              GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                              I solve the eye strain issue by engaging the OS's night mode. What I have noticed with dark mode though is that newer monitors do a much better job with it. I run my new Motorola G Stylus phone runs almost exclusively in dark mode, but the three year old Motorola G5 phone that it replaced was almost unusable in dark mode.

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                                Reducing the brightness on my monitors to 50% at the very most (some to 25%) have caused me zero problems and I've been set up like this for decades. I can spend 16 hours a day in front of a monitor and I can't say eye strain is any issue. I'll be hurting after a 16-hour marathon, but from everywhere else. I'm not seeing the "fuzzier screen" and "focusing issues" you're talking about. All dark mode does for me is make the dust more visible when it's bright and sunny. Of course YMMV and that's fine.

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                                dandy72 wrote:

                                All dark mode does for me is make the dust more visible when it's bright and sunny.

                                That makes me swear a lot.

                                dandy72 wrote:

                                I'm not seeing the "fuzzier screen" and "focusing issues" you're talking about.

                                If I lower the brightness too much I start seeing as when reading in low light, so the strain from the light is reduced but I have to strain to focus, If I don't lower it enough it's useless - I spent 7 years stuck with VisualStudio 6 and tried every possible combination. The relief I feel when moving to a bright white tanning lamp like CP to my dark themed VS feels like entering an air conditioned room in a hot summer day. I love my e-reader because it has a grayish backgorund that doesn't reflect light, with the bare minumum of backlight (about 2-3%) it's perfect. I also moved Acrobat Reader to a grayish background and it helps a lot. I also have a lazy eye so all the strain is concentrated to the good eye, which makes me fairly sensitive. When I transitioned to photocromic lenses my everyday life improved dramatically.

                                GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                  I solve the eye strain issue by engaging the OS's night mode. What I have noticed with dark mode though is that newer monitors do a much better job with it. I run my new Motorola G Stylus phone runs almost exclusively in dark mode, but the three year old Motorola G5 phone that it replaced was almost unusable in dark mode.

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                                  When I will update my e-reader I'll be taking one with the night light, which is more orange than white. Sadly on PC many applications don't play nice with OS settings, either with DPI or color corrections. Especially IDEs for embedded development, which often make VisualStudio 6 look like the pinnacle of technology.

                                  GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                    Tomz_KV wrote:

                                    There must be some good reasons for it

                                    23" of pure white light shot straight into my eyes will fatigue my eyesight in less than an hour, causing extreme migraines and a progressive loss of eyesight. Turning down the brightness makes the screen fuzzier and causes focusing issues due to background lighting. No amount of blue light reduction helps shielding from a lamp pointed straight at my face KGB interrogation style. Black/gray background eliminates most of the eye melting effect and allows for very bright characters, increasing contrast and thus visibility.

                                    GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                    kalberts
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                                    den2k88 wrote:

                                    23" of pure white light shot straight into my eyes will fatigue my eyesight in less than an hour

                                    That's how I react to black text on white paper. Therefore I prefer books printed with gray ink on medium gray paper, preferably in typefaces essentially composed of hairlines (as of the current web fashions). It is next to impossible to read the text, but at least it doesn't strain my eyes!

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                                      Dark themes for Visual Studio and other dev environments become more and more popular. There must be some good reasons for it. I thought that was hard to read. I still prefer the traditional light theme with a white background.

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      A white background is better for my eyes these days. Bright-colored text and graphics (not images) moving on a black screen causes me headaches.

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                                        A white background is better for my eyes these days. Bright-colored text and graphics (not images) moving on a black screen causes me headaches.

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                                        Tomz_KV
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                                        I cannot get used to a dark theme either.

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                                          In this Survey, Survey Results - Dark mode or Light mode?[^], both Light and Dark got nearly equal votes.

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                                          Tomz_KV
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                                          Thanks for sharing.

                                          TOMZ_KV

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