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  • S Slacker007

    I have dual 27" Samsung monitors (S27R35X) for work and dual 27" Asus gaming monitors (VG278) for personal. I really like them both. I don't know many people who have bought the curved panels. I know your monitor needs to be 4K compatible to work properly with 4K. I know that 4K does not render correctly on my monitors, and most streaming services will kick me to HD instead (automatically). I recommend, Samsung, Asus, and Dell monitors. I think HP makes some nice ones too.

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    Gary R Wheeler
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    Slacker007 wrote:

    I know your monitor needs to be 4K compatible to work properly with 4K

    I spoke too soon on the 4K. I did some digging, and it looks like the graphics chip in my laptop supports a maximum of 1920x1080 (HD) resolution.

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    • G Gary R Wheeler

      I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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      MarkTJohnson
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      I would think a single bigger monitor. I'm reminded of Tony Stark on the bridge of the helicarrier holding one hand of his eye asking how Fury does it, looking at the multiple monitors turning back and forth. "Must be tiring."

      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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        dandy72
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        If you don't have the eyesight to make out details, 4K at 24 or even 27 inches is going to be a complete waste. I have a 40" 4K TV as my primary display, and if I didn't have good vision I wouldn't run it at its native resolution (even now is pushing it--with everything running at its native resolution, text is smaller on my 40" display than the 27" 1080p one sitting next to it). When spreading out 4K over a smaller surface, everything's going to be *tiny* unless you rescale everything. If you're going to take a 3840x2160 pixel display and rescale everything to 200%, then you're essentially taking 2 pixels on each axis to render what was originally a single pixel. I don't understand the point of that.

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        • M MarkTJohnson

          I would think a single bigger monitor. I'm reminded of Tony Stark on the bridge of the helicarrier holding one hand of his eye asking how Fury does it, looking at the multiple monitors turning back and forth. "Must be tiring."

          I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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          Slacker007
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          I have been using dual monitors for years now, 8+ hours a day. I have no issues at all. visual studio in one monitor: site, ssms, etc. in other. :confused:

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          • G Gary R Wheeler

            I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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            Jon McKee
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            The main monitor I'm using right now is a BenQ GL2480. Part of the reason I got it is because it has blue-light filtering options on the monitor itself. Previously I used f.lux for that. Another benefit is the monitor stand is taller than other monitors I've had (it sits ~4 inches above the desk). I've enjoyed it so far :thumbsup:

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            • G Gary R Wheeler

              I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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              theoldfool
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              I Have a Dell 34" curved monitor that I bought 3 or 4 years ago, don't think it supports 4K. Not sure the curved thing does much but it does keep distance fairly constant from sides to middle. I wear computer glasses that focus at 27". I certainly wouldn't pay extra for it. I have been pleased with it, replaced 2 20" Dells. I was influenced by the fact I could get a discount via ID.Me or some such for vets. I keep 2 or 3 windows open but run VS in a VM on a separate desktop. Native OS is LMDE. I keep 2 to 3 desktops active. Sorry to hear about your accident. My left eye is clouding up and needs a laser procedure that is fairly common several years after cataract surgery. I like the larger monitor for the good text when programming. I don't do games or serious graphics. I suspect you will like any of the newer ones, make sure the resolution meets your vision. If your desk gives at all, make sure it has a solid stand or wall mount. Mine has a stand that is a little shaky but my desk is a tank. Good luck, Lou

              >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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              • G Gary R Wheeler

                I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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                Lost User
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                I'd consider an augmented reality headset; for a demo at least. A wireless keyboard / mouse or just your hands; and any number of holographic windows of any size, orientation and location.

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                • M MarkTJohnson

                  I would think a single bigger monitor. I'm reminded of Tony Stark on the bridge of the helicarrier holding one hand of his eye asking how Fury does it, looking at the multiple monitors turning back and forth. "Must be tiring."

                  I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                  Gary R Wheeler
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                  Yeah, that's me. :-O

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                  • D dandy72

                    If you don't have the eyesight to make out details, 4K at 24 or even 27 inches is going to be a complete waste. I have a 40" 4K TV as my primary display, and if I didn't have good vision I wouldn't run it at its native resolution (even now is pushing it--with everything running at its native resolution, text is smaller on my 40" display than the 27" 1080p one sitting next to it). When spreading out 4K over a smaller surface, everything's going to be *tiny* unless you rescale everything. If you're going to take a 3840x2160 pixel display and rescale everything to 200%, then you're essentially taking 2 pixels on each axis to render what was originally a single pixel. I don't understand the point of that.

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                    dandy72 wrote:

                    4K at 24 or even 27 inches is going to be a complete waste

                    It turns out my laptop video doesn't support 4K resolution, so it's kind of a moot point. The reason I was interested in 4K was that even though text is being drawn at the same point size, you've got 4 times as many pixels to use for anti-aliasing and smoothing to improve readability.

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                    • C Cp Coder

                      Eye strain is also an issue for me. (Due to age :sigh: ) I have a 27 inch 4K Dell with 2560 pixels horizontally. Sometimes the pixels are just too damn small! That is my main objection to the monitor. A 10 pixel font is difficult to read. I need fairly strong glasses with this monitor.

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                      Cp-Coder wrote:

                      A 10 pixel font is difficult to read

                      That's going to be very, very small on any modern monitor. I would have trouble reading that back when I was binocular :sigh: . What I'm looking for is text at 'standard' sizes that is high-quality and large enough on the screen for readability.

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                      • G Gary R Wheeler

                        I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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                        I rely on the page below for monitor advice Though I have yet been able to afford the recommendation Best Wishes - Cheerio Time to upgrade your monitor @ tonsky.me[^]

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                        • G Gary R Wheeler

                          I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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                          Joan M
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                          I have two Thinkvision P24h-10 monitors, not the best thing in the world, but I always preferred 2 monitors side by side than one single monitor, that way you can maximize windows without issues in each display. Nowadays there are big displays that come with a native firmware option that make them work as multiple physical displays (PIP or PBP can't remember which name is the right one). Then, shiny monitors usually give you better image quality (less coatings in front of the display), but they tend to show your face and lights and everything in the room. I'd go for any matte display which is big enough, with a refresh rate that would not hurt you, check it has no PWM issues (some flicker a lot when brightness is lowered), a few monitors have a kind of dock station in their backs, nice thing to consider if you work with a laptop. My Lenovo are not the best in the market, I have heard good things of Dell, but I can't help more than that. :beer:

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                          • G Gary R Wheeler

                            dandy72 wrote:

                            4K at 24 or even 27 inches is going to be a complete waste

                            It turns out my laptop video doesn't support 4K resolution, so it's kind of a moot point. The reason I was interested in 4K was that even though text is being drawn at the same point size, you've got 4 times as many pixels to use for anti-aliasing and smoothing to improve readability.

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                            dandy72
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                            Correct. But if you don't have the eyesight to see it...then over such a small surface, can you really tell the difference? I mean, some people swear they can't tell the difference between a DVD (480p) and a Blu-ray (1080p) image, shown on a 60"+ TV. And the difference there is much more significant than going from 1080p to 4K.

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                            • B BernardIE5317

                              I rely on the page below for monitor advice Though I have yet been able to afford the recommendation Best Wishes - Cheerio Time to upgrade your monitor @ tonsky.me[^]

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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Interesting. The writeup is somewhat Apple-centric, but the rest of the information is useful. Thanks!

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                              • G Gary R Wheeler

                                I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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                                Lost User
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                                Need a new one too, so monitoring this question from my 17".

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                                  I'd consider an augmented reality headset; for a demo at least. A wireless keyboard / mouse or just your hands; and any number of holographic windows of any size, orientation and location.

                                  It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                  Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                  I'd consider an augmented reality headset; for a demo at least.

                                  As a replacement for a monitor? :D

                                  Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                  A wireless keyboard / mouse or just your hands; and any number of holographic windows of any size, orientation and location.

                                  Sure, with the resolution to do WarCraft eh? We had those 3d desktops since win 3.1. It was an immediate succes since, ehr, never? No, not even slightly impressed.

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                                    Need a new one too, so monitoring this question from my 17".

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    monitoring this question from my 17"

                                    Boy are you in for a treat! :-D

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                                      Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                      I'd consider an augmented reality headset; for a demo at least.

                                      As a replacement for a monitor? :D

                                      Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                      A wireless keyboard / mouse or just your hands; and any number of holographic windows of any size, orientation and location.

                                      Sure, with the resolution to do WarCraft eh? We had those 3d desktops since win 3.1. It was an immediate succes since, ehr, never? No, not even slightly impressed.

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      1. I never said as a replacement. 2) Both my parents went blind, so I have an interest. 3) I have used the KB and Mouse with Hololens; it is not a Windows 3.1 desktop; the windows are "in space"; there is no "desktop". Meaningless to you, but the U.S. Army purchased a few billion $ worth from MS. 4) The resolution for the AR and XR headsets I have is HD. 5) You don't impress me either.

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                                        1. I never said as a replacement. 2) Both my parents went blind, so I have an interest. 3) I have used the KB and Mouse with Hololens; it is not a Windows 3.1 desktop; the windows are "in space"; there is no "desktop". Meaningless to you, but the U.S. Army purchased a few billion $ worth from MS. 4) The resolution for the AR and XR headsets I have is HD. 5) You don't impress me either.

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                                        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                        1. I never said as a replacement.

                                        You'd just consider, and now you hide behind the fact that you didn't say it aloud? :)

                                        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                        1. Both my parents went blind, so I have an interest.

                                        I come from a school of handicapped people. Do explain how this is relevant to your choice of visualization.

                                        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                        1. I have used the KB and Mouse with Hololens; it is not a Windows 3.1 desktop; the windows are "in space"; there is no "desktop". Meaningless to you, but the U.S. Army purchased a few billion $ worth from MS.

                                        Army can throw money, and they not leading.

                                        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                        1. The resolution for the AR and XR headsets I have is HD.

                                        This was about monitors, not headsets :D If you wanna talk army, talk encryption instead of augmented reality. Even there I beat them.

                                        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                        1. You don't impress me either.

                                        Hahaha, I would not try to, no reason to :D Srsly, the question is about monitors. It ain't that hard, and you come out to push your "army Augmented Reality Godammit" here (AARGh) :D

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                                        • G Gary R Wheeler

                                          I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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                                          GuyThiebaut
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                                          For my home monitor I went from a 24", that I purchased in 2013, to a 27" recently. I would recommend getting a 27" monitor, essentially bigger is better in my experience. The monitor I have is not curved and it's fine for me.

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