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    Cp Coder
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    So we had our Pfizer booster shots today. What amazed me is that there were a number of younger folks in the pharmacy that were there for their very first Covid shots! Seems some folks are now getting nervous as the reports of Covid deaths just keep coming.

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      So we had our Pfizer booster shots today. What amazed me is that there were a number of younger folks in the pharmacy that were there for their very first Covid shots! Seems some folks are now getting nervous as the reports of Covid deaths just keep coming.

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      As of Aug 7, according to WebMD, the predicated overall recover rate is 97-99.75%. Coronavirus Recovery: Rate, Time, and Outlook[^] The people who are mostly dying are the elderly and people with pre-existing underlying medical conditions. Please don't join the media in trying to scare the entire world.

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        As of Aug 7, according to WebMD, the predicated overall recover rate is 97-99.75%. Coronavirus Recovery: Rate, Time, and Outlook[^] The people who are mostly dying are the elderly and people with pre-existing underlying medical conditions. Please don't join the media in trying to scare the entire world.

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        It's the (young) unvaccinated people who get sick and then infect the old and vulnerable. Not getting vaccinated is an extremely selfish attitude to have. You can indirectly cause the death of a vulnerable person!

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          It's the (young) unvaccinated people who get sick and then infect the old and vulnerable. Not getting vaccinated is an extremely selfish attitude to have. You can indirectly cause the death of a vulnerable person!

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          You live your life in fear, and you want the world to be afraid just like you. People like you are part of the problem with people not wanting to get vaccinated. Your constant, unrelenting soapbox preaching, its too much, and people just tune you out now. Disagree with me all you want, I know I am correct.

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            You live your life in fear, and you want the world to be afraid just like you. People like you are part of the problem with people not wanting to get vaccinated. Your constant, unrelenting soapbox preaching, its too much, and people just tune you out now. Disagree with me all you want, I know I am correct.

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            Just keep away from me ..

            It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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              It's the (young) unvaccinated people who get sick and then infect the old and vulnerable. Not getting vaccinated is an extremely selfish attitude to have. You can indirectly cause the death of a vulnerable person!

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              Based on the commment, one would think that programmers would be more "logical" ... apparently not; just more venom.

              It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                Just keep away from me ..

                It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                Why? I'm vaccinated.

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                  As of Aug 7, according to WebMD, the predicated overall recover rate is 97-99.75%. Coronavirus Recovery: Rate, Time, and Outlook[^] The people who are mostly dying are the elderly and people with pre-existing underlying medical conditions. Please don't join the media in trying to scare the entire world.

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                  Kent Sharkey
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                  Mortality of polio - ~ 0.2%-3% Mortality of measles - 0.1% From the CDC:

                  Quote: Pinkbook: Measles | CDC[^]

                  Before 1963, approximately 500,000 cases and 500 measles deaths were reported annually, with epidemic cycles every 2 to 3 years.

                  Quote:Pinkbook: Poliomyelitis | CDC[^]

                  Approximately 70% of all polio infections in children are asymptomatic.

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                  Less than 1% of all polio infections in children result in flaccid paralysis.

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                  The case fatality ratio for paralytic polio is generally 2% to 5% among children and up to 15% to 30% among adolescents and adults.

                  Not many people complain about the vaccinations for measles and polio (loonies not counted). I don't think it's a question of "fear", but of "common sense" to use the tools we have to prevent disease.

                  TTFN - Kent

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                    As of Aug 7, according to WebMD, the predicated overall recover rate is 97-99.75%. Coronavirus Recovery: Rate, Time, and Outlook[^] The people who are mostly dying are the elderly and people with pre-existing underlying medical conditions. Please don't join the media in trying to scare the entire world.

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                    BernardIE5317
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                    Cp-Coder was as near as I can tell merely making a reasonably logical deduction as to the motivation of those late comers in response to the many such reported deaths w/ no intention of scaring anyone As for being scared it seems a logical response to what may be a serious condition As for the media's intentions as near as I can tell they are merely reporting the facts "Recovery" may be 99% but we now know there are long term effects which as far as I know are yet to be well known so a "recovery" of 99% has little meaning Hospitals are overflowing with COVID patients Doctors and Nurses are exhausted and fed up We have to walk around wearing masks w/ no end in sight I come to the conclusion this is a ___ing serious situation Better to be scared than not - Cheerio

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                      As of Aug 7, according to WebMD, the predicated overall recover rate is 97-99.75%. Coronavirus Recovery: Rate, Time, and Outlook[^] The people who are mostly dying are the elderly and people with pre-existing underlying medical conditions. Please don't join the media in trying to scare the entire world.

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                      I beg to differ. According to the Israeli Ministry of Health, the majority of those who are infected are those who are unvaccinated. Only a negligible number of people who received the booster (for a total of 3 shots) have fallen ill. Note that this maybe an understatement- only those who actually have symptoms are liable to get tested. Among those who are severely ill (requiring hospitalization), the overwhelming majority are unvaccinated. The data are all [here](https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general), but the graphs' legends are in Hebrew. Sorry.

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        Mortality of polio - ~ 0.2%-3% Mortality of measles - 0.1% From the CDC:

                        Quote: Pinkbook: Measles | CDC[^]

                        Before 1963, approximately 500,000 cases and 500 measles deaths were reported annually, with epidemic cycles every 2 to 3 years.

                        Quote:Pinkbook: Poliomyelitis | CDC[^]

                        Approximately 70% of all polio infections in children are asymptomatic.

                        Quote:

                        Less than 1% of all polio infections in children result in flaccid paralysis.

                        Quote:

                        The case fatality ratio for paralytic polio is generally 2% to 5% among children and up to 15% to 30% among adolescents and adults.

                        Not many people complain about the vaccinations for measles and polio (loonies not counted). I don't think it's a question of "fear", but of "common sense" to use the tools we have to prevent disease.

                        TTFN - Kent

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                        Nelek
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                        Kent Sharkey wrote:

                        I don't think it's a question of "fear", but of "common sense" to use the tools we have to prevent disease.

                        Sadly, common sense is not that common. :sigh:

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          As of Aug 7, according to WebMD, the predicated overall recover rate is 97-99.75%. Coronavirus Recovery: Rate, Time, and Outlook[^] The people who are mostly dying are the elderly and people with pre-existing underlying medical conditions. Please don't join the media in trying to scare the entire world.

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                          I know people (some are even family of mine) working in hospitals in two different lands, and for their empiric observations, in the hospitals they work for, the ratio of intensive station patients is clearly (like 80% or more) being unvaccinated people and not that old as before, since some weeks / couple of months ago, the average age is getting younger and younger. Back to real cases: some people that went to school with me had to stay in the hospital for several days and one even died, and I am not that old. I can't say in the rest of the world, but if in 5 hospitals in 4 different cities in two different countries is like that... adding some deviation, even rounding down a bit... it still is a remarkable difference. I don't usually care, what the main stream says. And I know that many, many media groups follow their own agenda. But I do trust those people and I believe the numbers they see everyday.

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Based on the commment, one would think that programmers would be more "logical" ... apparently not; just more venom.

                            It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                            :( /ravi

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                              Kent Sharkey wrote:

                              I don't think it's a question of "fear", but of "common sense" to use the tools we have to prevent disease.

                              Sadly, common sense is not that common. :sigh:

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Aye! :( /ravi

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                                As of Aug 7, according to WebMD, the predicated overall recover rate is 97-99.75%. Coronavirus Recovery: Rate, Time, and Outlook[^] The people who are mostly dying are the elderly and people with pre-existing underlying medical conditions. Please don't join the media in trying to scare the entire world.

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                There's more to Covid than death. I know one family who are all suffering from long Covid; they've had it for over a year now. Another friend has been in hospital for the last 10 weeks with it. She's been in and out of intensive care with it. Let's look at that statistic though. Assuming worst case of 97% recovery, the population of the USA is 328 million approx, so that's about 9.8 million deaths. That's a hell of a lot of people. 1% mortality is 3.2 million.

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                                  There's more to Covid than death. I know one family who are all suffering from long Covid; they've had it for over a year now. Another friend has been in hospital for the last 10 weeks with it. She's been in and out of intensive care with it. Let's look at that statistic though. Assuming worst case of 97% recovery, the population of the USA is 328 million approx, so that's about 9.8 million deaths. That's a hell of a lot of people. 1% mortality is 3.2 million.

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                                  as of today, we have only seen 688K deaths out of 42.9M cases, here in the United States. There have been 4.55M deaths world wide, as of right now, out of 219M reported cases, out of a estimated world population of 7.9 billion. I support vaccination. I support the science. I do not support fear mongering and I don't support people who choose to live and cower in fear because of COVID.

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                                    as of today, we have only seen 688K deaths out of 42.9M cases, here in the United States. There have been 4.55M deaths world wide, as of right now, out of 219M reported cases, out of a estimated world population of 7.9 billion. I support vaccination. I support the science. I do not support fear mongering and I don't support people who choose to live and cower in fear because of COVID.

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                                    May differ from country to country, but haven't seen any fear mongering. What purpose would that serve? Drop the nonsense.

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                      So we had our Pfizer booster shots today. What amazed me is that there were a number of younger folks in the pharmacy that were there for their very first Covid shots! Seems some folks are now getting nervous as the reports of Covid deaths just keep coming.

                                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                      If you're seeing a marked uptick in young people getting their first shot, my guess is that it has a lot more to do with succumbing to imminent job loss rather than d00m p0rn.

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                                        as of today, we have only seen 688K deaths out of 42.9M cases, here in the United States. There have been 4.55M deaths world wide, as of right now, out of 219M reported cases, out of a estimated world population of 7.9 billion. I support vaccination. I support the science. I do not support fear mongering and I don't support people who choose to live and cower in fear because of COVID.

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                                        What on earth does that mean; you don't support people who choose to live and cower in fear? If someone chooses to have the vaccine, they aren't cowering in fear. If someone is shielding, they aren't cowering in fear. If someone chooses to think of others and wear a mask, this isn't cowering in fear. Quite frankly, it's no one else's business how someone else chooses to live.

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                                          Why? I'm vaccinated.

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                                          You'd better keep away anyway, because being vaccinated neither prevents you from getting it nor spreading it. Unlike vaccines for various diseases typically caught in childhood, these are of poor efficacy. With all the variants cropping up--soon we'll be out of Greek letters--it'll be like flu vaccines, which must be taken annually. In fact, biannually is often touted. Eventually you'll have to be injected in the butt, because your arm is going to look like a junkie's. :)

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