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  • H honey the codewitch

    I'm on the fence about it. There are two things I'd like to know. Who among you has installed it, and what do you think? Also, is the free upgrade to Windows 11 time limited? Do I have to get it while the getting is good, or can i sit on it for 3-6 months?

    Real programmers use butterflies

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    Mike Hankey
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    I'm going to wait for all the dust to settle, right now it seems just too unstable to be practical for a dev machine.

    The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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      I did a clean install as mentioned a few threads down. The only negative comment I have is that Edge gets unstable unexpectedly. While annoying, it is not so bad that I want to revert to Windows 10 (for the moment) I hope that it is just a video driver or something else that will be fixed soon. If you do go for it: Why not make an image (like the Macrium variety) of your current system, so you can go back to 10 in a few minutes? You should have a recent image in any case to cover eventualities like Ransom attacks.

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      honey the codewitch
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      That's true. I have 7TB online though, and a 2TB system drive, so it could take awhile.

      Real programmers use butterflies

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      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

        I'm going to wait for all the dust to settle, right now it seems just too unstable to be practical for a dev machine.

        The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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        honey the codewitch
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        That's what my better nature is telling me. But I don't want to miss an opportunity if there's one to be missed.

        Real programmers use butterflies

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        • H honey the codewitch

          That's what my better nature is telling me. But I don't want to miss an opportunity if there's one to be missed.

          Real programmers use butterflies

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          Yeah I did that with 10 and ended up paying for it...and it wasn't cheap. But I don't want to be doing their QA for them either!

          The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            I'm going to wait for all the dust to settle, right now it seems just too unstable to be practical for a dev machine.

            The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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            Cp Coder
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            right now it seems just too unstable to be practical for a dev machine

            In my experience it is very stable running the Android Studio IDE. Haven't tried Visual Studio yet. I want to stick out my neck and say it's OK for development work. Surfing the web can get a little annoying.

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              right now it seems just too unstable to be practical for a dev machine

              In my experience it is very stable running the Android Studio IDE. Haven't tried Visual Studio yet. I want to stick out my neck and say it's OK for development work. Surfing the web can get a little annoying.

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              honey the codewitch
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              I barely use Visual Studio these days, but I use VS Code a lot. That would be my litmus test, if anything.

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                Yeah I did that with 10 and ended up paying for it...and it wasn't cheap. But I don't want to be doing their QA for them either!

                The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                honey the codewitch
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                also that. this is why i am handwringing over the decision.

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                  Quote:

                  right now it seems just too unstable to be practical for a dev machine

                  In my experience it is very stable running the Android Studio IDE. Haven't tried Visual Studio yet. I want to stick out my neck and say it's OK for development work. Surfing the web can get a little annoying.

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  I'm doing embedded development as well as desktop stuff so not sure how the other IDE's, drivers etc. will play with 11? And right now I don't have the time or the inclination to find out.

                  The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                    Installed, not overly impressed. I like the new setup (as in Control Panel) format, but that and rounded corners is about all I've noticed so far. I'd stick with 10 for now, especially if you have an AMD CPU. As far as I've heard, there isn't a time limit on the upgrade. I'm sure it will get louder and louder, but not switch to pay. I could have missed it though. I'm pretty much out of the loop these days.

                    TTFN - Kent

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    Thanks!

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      also that. this is why i am handwringing over the decision.

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      It's a gamble; if you can't afford to lose don't play.

                      The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                        I'm doing embedded development as well as desktop stuff so not sure how the other IDE's, drivers etc. will play with 11? And right now I don't have the time or the inclination to find out.

                        The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        Me too, and that's my biggest concern, is whether or not MiniGW, platformIO, etc are all going to play nicely with the new OS.

                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          It's a gamble; if you can't afford to lose don't play.

                          The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          Right now I can afford it, just not sure I want to.

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            also that. this is why i am handwringing over the decision.

                            Real programmers use butterflies

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                            Didn't you used to work there? You should know better than most about their QA process.

                            I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                              Didn't you used to work there? You should know better than most about their QA process.

                              I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                              honey the codewitch
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                              It has been over a decade since I worked there. I'm not sure how long they're dogfooding for these days.

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                              • H honey the codewitch

                                I'm on the fence about it. There are two things I'd like to know. Who among you has installed it, and what do you think? Also, is the free upgrade to Windows 11 time limited? Do I have to get it while the getting is good, or can i sit on it for 3-6 months?

                                Real programmers use butterflies

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                                The one issue that is a major deal breaker for me is they have locked the taskbar to be at the bottom. I usually use two or three monitors and I refuse to waste that much real estate across all monitors for the taskbar. It is utterly absurd. I have monitors with 1200 lines because it's enough more than 1080 to make a difference to me. The other thing is with a vertical taskbar on left, it is always in the same place regardless of how many monitors I use at the moment. I know, these are likely to be trivial things to most people but they make a difference to me. As for the cost (or not), that is of little concern to me. I bought my last three copies of W10 from a reseller of OEM software and they cost me less than thirty bucks total for all three so if the free offer dries up I don't mind springing for it. However, that will only happen if the taskbar is unlocked OR I am absolutely required to have it and I can't imagine why that would be.

                                "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                                  The one issue that is a major deal breaker for me is they have locked the taskbar to be at the bottom. I usually use two or three monitors and I refuse to waste that much real estate across all monitors for the taskbar. It is utterly absurd. I have monitors with 1200 lines because it's enough more than 1080 to make a difference to me. The other thing is with a vertical taskbar on left, it is always in the same place regardless of how many monitors I use at the moment. I know, these are likely to be trivial things to most people but they make a difference to me. As for the cost (or not), that is of little concern to me. I bought my last three copies of W10 from a reseller of OEM software and they cost me less than thirty bucks total for all three so if the free offer dries up I don't mind springing for it. However, that will only happen if the taskbar is unlocked OR I am absolutely required to have it and I can't imagine why that would be.

                                  "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                                  honey the codewitch
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                                  I can't stand multiple monitors so much that I sprang for a 4k TV to use instead. I always keep my taskbar on the bottom so it might not be so much of an issue for me. Thanks.

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    I'm on the fence about it. There are two things I'd like to know. Who among you has installed it, and what do you think? Also, is the free upgrade to Windows 11 time limited? Do I have to get it while the getting is good, or can i sit on it for 3-6 months?

                                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                                    Ummm - virtual machine htcw. trust nothing from MS. You scare me some of the code $$%^^^%%^ you do. I suspect caffeine on your part. :) but OS updates from a brain damaged corp? virtual machine.

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                                    • K Kent Sharkey

                                      Installed, not overly impressed. I like the new setup (as in Control Panel) format, but that and rounded corners is about all I've noticed so far. I'd stick with 10 for now, especially if you have an AMD CPU. As far as I've heard, there isn't a time limit on the upgrade. I'm sure it will get louder and louder, but not switch to pay. I could have missed it though. I'm pretty much out of the loop these days.

                                      TTFN - Kent

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                                      Nelek
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                                      I saw yesterday that my Win10 (in AMD) told me, my PC is not suitable for Updating to 11. I drunk a glass of Champagne :laugh: :laugh:

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      • H honey the codewitch

                                        That's true. I have 7TB online though, and a 2TB system drive, so it could take awhile.

                                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                                        Nelek
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                                        You only need to backup the OS partition. Data is not needed for that and should be in a different backup process (at least IMHO).

                                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                        • H honey the codewitch

                                          I'm on the fence about it. There are two things I'd like to know. Who among you has installed it, and what do you think? Also, is the free upgrade to Windows 11 time limited? Do I have to get it while the getting is good, or can i sit on it for 3-6 months?

                                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                                          Member 9167057
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                                          Since you can still install Windows 11 with a license key for 7, I very much doubt the free upgrade will be over in 6 months. I've installed it and don't see anything negative so far. On the technical side of things anyway, the start menu got it's functionality limited for, I presume, no good reason. File History is gimped as well, this time I'm sure for no good reason. But if you don't see any reason to upgrade RIGHT NOW, just don't. Wait until all the first-product-launch kinks are ironed out. Windows 10 will stay in support until 2025 anyway. The main reason for me to upgrade early was WSLg, but with WSL (including g) becoming available through the store on Windows 10, there really is no reason to hurry.

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