Some questions about upgrading to Windows 11

[Mike Hankey]

Yeah I did that with 10 and ended up paying for it...and it wasn't cheap. But I don't want to be doing their QA for them either!

The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

[honey the codewitch]

I barely use Visual Studio these days, but I use VS Code a lot. That would be my litmus test, if anything.

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[honey the codewitch]

also that. this is why i am handwringing over the decision.

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[Mike Hankey]

I'm doing embedded development as well as desktop stuff so not sure how the other IDE's, drivers etc. will play with 11? And right now I don't have the time or the inclination to find out.

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[honey the codewitch]

Thanks!

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[Mike Hankey]

It's a gamble; if you can't afford to lose don't play.

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[honey the codewitch]

Me too, and that's my biggest concern, is whether or not MiniGW, platformIO, etc are all going to play nicely with the new OS.

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[honey the codewitch]

Right now I can afford it, just not sure I want to.

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[MarkTJohnson]

Didn't you used to work there? You should know better than most about their QA process.

I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

[honey the codewitch]

It has been over a decade since I worked there. I'm not sure how long they're dogfooding for these days.

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[Rick York]

The one issue that is a major deal breaker for me is they have locked the taskbar to be at the bottom. I usually use two or three monitors and I refuse to waste that much real estate across all monitors for the taskbar. It is utterly absurd. I have monitors with 1200 lines because it's enough more than 1080 to make a difference to me. The other thing is with a vertical taskbar on left, it is always in the same place regardless of how many monitors I use at the moment. I know, these are likely to be trivial things to most people but they make a difference to me. As for the cost (or not), that is of little concern to me. I bought my last three copies of W10 from a reseller of OEM software and they cost me less than thirty bucks total for all three so if the free offer dries up I don't mind springing for it. However, that will only happen if the taskbar is unlocked OR I am absolutely required to have it and I can't imagine why that would be.

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[honey the codewitch]

I can't stand multiple monitors so much that I sprang for a 4k TV to use instead. I always keep my taskbar on the bottom so it might not be so much of an issue for me. Thanks.

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[charlieg]

Ummm - virtual machine htcw. trust nothing from MS. You scare me some of the code $$%^^^%%^ you do. I suspect caffeine on your part. :) but OS updates from a brain damaged corp? virtual machine.

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[Nelek]

I saw yesterday that my Win10 (in AMD) told me, my PC is not suitable for Updating to 11. I drunk a glass of Champagne :laugh: :laugh:

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[Nelek]

You only need to backup the OS partition. Data is not needed for that and should be in a different backup process (at least IMHO).

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[Member 9167057]

Since you can still install Windows 11 with a license key for 7, I very much doubt the free upgrade will be over in 6 months. I've installed it and don't see anything negative so far. On the technical side of things anyway, the start menu got it's functionality limited for, I presume, no good reason. File History is gimped as well, this time I'm sure for no good reason. But if you don't see any reason to upgrade RIGHT NOW, just don't. Wait until all the first-product-launch kinks are ironed out. Windows 10 will stay in support until 2025 anyway. The main reason for me to upgrade early was WSLg, but with WSL (including g) becoming available through the store on Windows 10, there really is no reason to hurry.

[BryanFazekas]

When Win10 came out, I upgraded my laptop fairly quickly as I had Win8.1 on it, and hoped Win10 would be better. My experience was good, so a month later I upgraded my desktop to keep them consistent. Regarding Win11, I see no compelling reason to upgrade. I'm unimpressed with what I've read and have no enthusiasm for dealing with OS problems while Win11 shakes out. [I'm still using the same laptop and desktop; neither qualifies for Win11, so I'd have to buy new. However, if I had brand new hardware I'd still wait.] The question folks should ask themselves is, "Why do I want to upgrade to Win11?" If you have a reason that's compelling to you, do it. If not, do what I'm doing and make some popcorn ... :laugh:

[gervacleto]

I've been using it since first Dev Preview even for developing, and at this moment I've never had any problems so far. It is my main machine so I've been using it intensively. I do not think it is a BIG change from Win 10 but it's nice.

[Moo v This]

There is more nagging about Edge, and it is more difficult to switch default browsers. The start menu is a problem too, half is useful, the other half is populated with Microsoft's recommendation based on what you have been doing, i.e. AI. Last time I looked there were some rar files there, basically they are wasting prime real estate. Cannot change that. There is widgets for those who, well I don't know who the target audience is for that. And there is Msft news, which infests the notification area, Edge, and widgets. Plenty of opportunity to tell Msft what news you like, as to enhance the value of the product that is Mrs Witch to Microsoft And there is the taskbar, which is now feature limited by only allowing you to put it bottom left or bottom center (Apple mode). According to some Msft marketing dude Windows 11 puts you the user front and center and that is why the Taskbar is in the center too! Lots of complaints in the Feedback Hub, but so far nothing but blah blah from Msft as to when they are going to fix this. It all has a consumerish feel to it for me and for now I think the benefits are overshadowed by the overall sense of "we know better how you should be using your computer".

[cegarman]

Greetings, I'll upgrade to Win 11 when this 5 year old laptop gives out. My AMD processor is not authorized for the upgrade at this point. The memory is good, the space requirement is good and TPM 2.0 is functional. And at the point that this laptop gives out. I'll get a better version of win 11 with the new laptop since most of the Win 11 bugs will be worked out by that point. The current laptop has a couple of upgrades .. 1 TB SSD Drive and 8GB memory boost to 16GB. My other laptop is getting an OS Change to Mint (Linux). Its a 2012 model with a I-5 processor with 8 GB memory and a 1TB hard drive.

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