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  • L Lost User

    Beast of a machine, a year old. Not like my regular dev-PC, this thing features more memory on its graphics card than my laptop had working memory. Built by a gamer, this thing has 7 active coolers. ..and it is too old to do Windows 11 :D Yeah, maybe I'm too :)

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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    theoldfool
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    Newer version of VMware supports vTPM chip (requires encrypting disk at the moment, subject to future change). Using that, I installed W11 in a VM on 6 year old hardware. Took a gander and deleted it. Didn't have any problems or find anything to dislike, just not interested at the moment. Worth the effort if needed. You should be able to do a p2v conversion of your current W10 system and upgrade (not tested by me). I am guessing the VMware community edition would do the same.

    >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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    • L Lost User

      Beast of a machine, a year old. Not like my regular dev-PC, this thing features more memory on its graphics card than my laptop had working memory. Built by a gamer, this thing has 7 active coolers. ..and it is too old to do Windows 11 :D Yeah, maybe I'm too :)

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      Nelek
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      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      Beast of a machine, a year old. Not like my regular dev-PC, this thing features more memory on its graphics card than my laptop had working memory.

      Same here I run my VMs with so many virtual memory as my old pc had physically.

      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      this thing has 7 active coolers.

      I am happy with my 4 fans.

      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      ..and it is too old to do Windows 11

      Mine too... :jig::badger:

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      • T theoldfool

        Newer version of VMware supports vTPM chip (requires encrypting disk at the moment, subject to future change). Using that, I installed W11 in a VM on 6 year old hardware. Took a gander and deleted it. Didn't have any problems or find anything to dislike, just not interested at the moment. Worth the effort if needed. You should be able to do a p2v conversion of your current W10 system and upgrade (not tested by me). I am guessing the VMware community edition would do the same.

        >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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        Lost User
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        I'm thinking Linux in a VM :)

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        • L Lost User

          I'm thinking Linux in a VM :)

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          theoldfool
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          Yup. Got several of them too. :cool: Base system is Linux.

          >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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            Yup. Got several of them too. :cool: Base system is Linux.

            >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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            Lost User
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            sudo elephant windows requirements :D One for games, one for dev, one for the female.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            • L Lost User

              sudo elephant windows requirements :D One for games, one for dev, one for the female.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              Nelek
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              +1 for surfing the non white-listed places in the internet

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              • S Super Lloyd

                I got suckered in.. when I saw the message "Windows 11" is ready I checked and I got this unacceptable message "your device is not ready", all the more infuriating when my slow and budget handheld tablet did support it... So, even though I am too old to tinker with my BIOS, I did it! And bam! No wait, Windows update still say my PC is not ready! :(( Let's check with the compatibility app! The compatibility app says my PC is ready! :omg: What's going on here? Is it ready or not? My PC is not a quantum particle!!! :mad: EDIT now updating my BIOS manually with some random looking file from MSI. scary... EDIT2 and still not supporting W11 (according to Windows Update), damn...

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                Thierry M
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                I would say Windows 11 is not ready yet. Wait some time before trying to install it. or install it on an unused computer.

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                • L Lost User

                  Beast of a machine, a year old. Not like my regular dev-PC, this thing features more memory on its graphics card than my laptop had working memory. Built by a gamer, this thing has 7 active coolers. ..and it is too old to do Windows 11 :D Yeah, maybe I'm too :)

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  Paul Sanders the other one
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                  Not necessarily too old. Your motherboard needs to have a TPM and to enable (assuming it's supported) secure boot in the BIOS. Also, older CPUs are reportedly not supported but my CPU is ancient and I had no problems. I'm running it in a VM though, so maybe that's a factor.

                  Paul Sanders http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk

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                  • S Super Lloyd

                    I got suckered in.. when I saw the message "Windows 11" is ready I checked and I got this unacceptable message "your device is not ready", all the more infuriating when my slow and budget handheld tablet did support it... So, even though I am too old to tinker with my BIOS, I did it! And bam! No wait, Windows update still say my PC is not ready! :(( Let's check with the compatibility app! The compatibility app says my PC is ready! :omg: What's going on here? Is it ready or not? My PC is not a quantum particle!!! :mad: EDIT now updating my BIOS manually with some random looking file from MSI. scary... EDIT2 and still not supporting W11 (according to Windows Update), damn...

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                    MVSoftVM
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                    Please read about Windows 11 and installing it on not-ready devices. First of all, the limitations are set only inside setup files. Also, the Checking application provided by Microsoft offers the same s**t. What are the good news? There are a couple of videos/tutorials on Youtube which explain how to modify a Windows 10 installation iso to be able to install W11, and to bypass TPM v2.0 and CPU compatibility restrictions of W11 installer. Regards, Vali

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      I got suckered in.. when I saw the message "Windows 11" is ready I checked and I got this unacceptable message "your device is not ready", all the more infuriating when my slow and budget handheld tablet did support it... So, even though I am too old to tinker with my BIOS, I did it! And bam! No wait, Windows update still say my PC is not ready! :(( Let's check with the compatibility app! The compatibility app says my PC is ready! :omg: What's going on here? Is it ready or not? My PC is not a quantum particle!!! :mad: EDIT now updating my BIOS manually with some random looking file from MSI. scary... EDIT2 and still not supporting W11 (according to Windows Update), damn...

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                      milo xml
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                      Believe it or not, I actually called Windows support once and they were actually helpful and friendly. Try them and see what they may have to offer.

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                      • S Super Lloyd

                        I got suckered in.. when I saw the message "Windows 11" is ready I checked and I got this unacceptable message "your device is not ready", all the more infuriating when my slow and budget handheld tablet did support it... So, even though I am too old to tinker with my BIOS, I did it! And bam! No wait, Windows update still say my PC is not ready! :(( Let's check with the compatibility app! The compatibility app says my PC is ready! :omg: What's going on here? Is it ready or not? My PC is not a quantum particle!!! :mad: EDIT now updating my BIOS manually with some random looking file from MSI. scary... EDIT2 and still not supporting W11 (according to Windows Update), damn...

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                        zezba9000
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                        Updating the BIOS should be easy. All modern motherboards have a QuickFlash / EasyFlash option built into the existing BIOS. Ignore Windows update message (as it doesn't re-check sometimes) & just focus on compatibility app. If it says you're good, then you're good. Then just use one of these options to upgrade: Download Windows 11[^] But TBH I would stick with Win10 unless you plan on doing a clean install of Win11. Or unless you really care about the UI refresh it doesn't offer you anything of value. Win10 is just going to be more stable on a lot of hardware most likely.

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          I got suckered in.. when I saw the message "Windows 11" is ready I checked and I got this unacceptable message "your device is not ready", all the more infuriating when my slow and budget handheld tablet did support it... So, even though I am too old to tinker with my BIOS, I did it! And bam! No wait, Windows update still say my PC is not ready! :(( Let's check with the compatibility app! The compatibility app says my PC is ready! :omg: What's going on here? Is it ready or not? My PC is not a quantum particle!!! :mad: EDIT now updating my BIOS manually with some random looking file from MSI. scary... EDIT2 and still not supporting W11 (according to Windows Update), damn...

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                          sasadler
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                          When I enabled my TPM, the compatibility app said my PC was ready for 11. It took 3 days before Windows update said the same. The Start Menu and taskbar changes are going to keep me on Windows 10 for a few years yet. I'll probably try 11 on a vm at some point, but there's no rush.

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                            When I enabled my TPM, the compatibility app said my PC was ready for 11. It took 3 days before Windows update said the same. The Start Menu and taskbar changes are going to keep me on Windows 10 for a few years yet. I'll probably try 11 on a vm at some point, but there's no rush.

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                            Super Lloyd
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                            You know the funny thing? After you said that I tested on my PC right now and.. behold! My PC can be upgraded now! :O

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                            • S Super Lloyd

                              I got suckered in.. when I saw the message "Windows 11" is ready I checked and I got this unacceptable message "your device is not ready", all the more infuriating when my slow and budget handheld tablet did support it... So, even though I am too old to tinker with my BIOS, I did it! And bam! No wait, Windows update still say my PC is not ready! :(( Let's check with the compatibility app! The compatibility app says my PC is ready! :omg: What's going on here? Is it ready or not? My PC is not a quantum particle!!! :mad: EDIT now updating my BIOS manually with some random looking file from MSI. scary... EDIT2 and still not supporting W11 (according to Windows Update), damn...

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                              pmauriks
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                              In Case anyone is interested, this is the video from Microsoft that explains why they required all of these things to be on in Windows 11. Windows 11 Security — Our Hacker-in-Chief Runs Attacks and Shows Solutions - YouTube[^] I think it's a little biased, and paints previous versions of Windows a bit unfairly . . . but hey, buy a new PC and run Windows 11 ! (Happy running Linux full time for the last half decade).

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                              • S Super Lloyd

                                I got suckered in.. when I saw the message "Windows 11" is ready I checked and I got this unacceptable message "your device is not ready", all the more infuriating when my slow and budget handheld tablet did support it... So, even though I am too old to tinker with my BIOS, I did it! And bam! No wait, Windows update still say my PC is not ready! :(( Let's check with the compatibility app! The compatibility app says my PC is ready! :omg: What's going on here? Is it ready or not? My PC is not a quantum particle!!! :mad: EDIT now updating my BIOS manually with some random looking file from MSI. scary... EDIT2 and still not supporting W11 (according to Windows Update), damn...

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                                inlandchris1
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                                Everybody needs to view Linus @ youtube, he has the answers why you can’t upgrade to Win11 and how to work around those restrictions so you Can upgrade. DON’T buy a new PC for Windows 11! - How to install - YouTube[^] Not sure if this link works here.

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                                • S Super Lloyd

                                  I got suckered in.. when I saw the message "Windows 11" is ready I checked and I got this unacceptable message "your device is not ready", all the more infuriating when my slow and budget handheld tablet did support it... So, even though I am too old to tinker with my BIOS, I did it! And bam! No wait, Windows update still say my PC is not ready! :(( Let's check with the compatibility app! The compatibility app says my PC is ready! :omg: What's going on here? Is it ready or not? My PC is not a quantum particle!!! :mad: EDIT now updating my BIOS manually with some random looking file from MSI. scary... EDIT2 and still not supporting W11 (according to Windows Update), damn...

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                                  rjmoses
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                                  Just found out that none of my 19 computers, including the ones' only 6 months old, are 11 ready. Linux--here I come. I'll run Windows 95 under Linux Virtualbox to do what I need to do.

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                                    Just found out that none of my 19 computers, including the ones' only 6 months old, are 11 ready. Linux--here I come. I'll run Windows 95 under Linux Virtualbox to do what I need to do.

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                                    Super Lloyd
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                                    Pah, Windows 3.1 or nothing! Performance only went downhill after that! ;P

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