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  • L Lost User

    Friendly? No, not as a species.

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    CodeWraith
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    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    No, not as a species.

    No species can afford to be friendly. Indifference if you are not a competitor or natural enemy is about as friendly as it usually gets.

    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      No, not as a species.

      No species can afford to be friendly. Indifference if you are not a competitor or natural enemy is about as friendly as it usually gets.

      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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      Super Lloyd
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      mm.. not quite... [Mutualism (biology) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism\_(biology))

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        There's an alternate theory relating to the uncanny valley phenomenon. It suggests that we killed anything off that looked mostly like we did. The creep factor we have is leavings from that early genocidal impulse. poor Neanderthals, if true! I can't recall where I encountered this, so YMMV but it stuck with me because I thought it was interesting.

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        There is nothing as uncanny as a competitor that is interested in almost exactly the same resources as you are and follows a similar strategy to get them. Still, the Neandertals were not exterminated. It looks more like they were pushed back over thousands of years before the last isolated populations could not sustain themselves anymore. It also seems that they were not great inventors or innovators. Their tools seem to display only little change over tens of thousands of years, unlike those of our ancestors.

        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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          mm.. not quite... [Mutualism (biology) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism\_(biology))

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          Aaah yes easy: {\displaystyle {\frac {\mathrm {d} N_{1}}{\mathrm {d} t}}=r_{1}N_{1}\left[1-{\frac {N_{1}}{K_{1}}}+b_{12}{\frac {N_{2}}{K_{1}}}\right]} {\displaystyle {\frac {\mathrm {d} N_{2}}{\mathrm {d} t}}=r_{2}N_{2}\left[1-{\frac {N_{2}}{K_{2}}}+b_{21}{\frac {N_{1}}{K_{2}}}\right]}{\displaystyle {\frac {\mathrm {d} N_{2}}{\mathrm {d} t}}=r_{2}N_{2}\left[1-{\frac {N_{2}}{K_{2}}}+b_{21}{\frac {N_{1}}{K_{2}}}\right]} Unfortunatelly did not found the correct code tags :^) :laugh:

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            There's an alternate theory relating to the uncanny valley phenomenon. It suggests that we killed anything off that looked mostly like we did. The creep factor we have is leavings from that early genocidal impulse. poor Neanderthals, if true! I can't recall where I encountered this, so YMMV but it stuck with me because I thought it was interesting.

            Real programmers use butterflies

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            Super Lloyd
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            It will remain forever hard to really know...

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              Aaah yes easy: {\displaystyle {\frac {\mathrm {d} N_{1}}{\mathrm {d} t}}=r_{1}N_{1}\left[1-{\frac {N_{1}}{K_{1}}}+b_{12}{\frac {N_{2}}{K_{1}}}\right]} {\displaystyle {\frac {\mathrm {d} N_{2}}{\mathrm {d} t}}=r_{2}N_{2}\left[1-{\frac {N_{2}}{K_{2}}}+b_{21}{\frac {N_{1}}{K_{2}}}\right]}{\displaystyle {\frac {\mathrm {d} N_{2}}{\mathrm {d} t}}=r_{2}N_{2}\left[1-{\frac {N_{2}}{K_{2}}}+b_{21}{\frac {N_{1}}{K_{2}}}\right]} Unfortunatelly did not found the correct code tags :^) :laugh:

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              Super Lloyd
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              I only had about 3 months of latex experience 25 years ago, I am afraid you lost me here... though I suspect you were trying to code the Lokta-Volterra equation here, for some unfathomable reason...

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                mm.. not quite... [Mutualism (biology) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism\_(biology))

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                Yes, of course. But that's actually a rare thing, compared to the total number of species around. Evolution always goes with whatever works. That means not harming the few that are helpful, not wating any time or energy on those who have nothing to offer, avoiding those who can harm you and possibly taking advantage of those who you can defeat. Plus, in our case, invent ways to get rid of any who we previously could not yet deal with.

                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                  I only had about 3 months of latex experience 25 years ago, I am afraid you lost me here... though I suspect you were trying to code the Lokta-Volterra equation here, for some unfathomable reason...

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                  same here. recognized it is only available in articles :confused:

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                    There is nothing as uncanny as a competitor that is interested in almost exactly the same resources as you are and follows a similar strategy to get them. Still, the Neandertals were not exterminated. It looks more like they were pushed back over thousands of years before the last isolated populations could not sustain themselves anymore. It also seems that they were not great inventors or innovators. Their tools seem to display only little change over tens of thousands of years, unlike those of our ancestors.

                    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                    Super Lloyd
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                    It's not just competition, we all got Neandertal DNA (about 4% IIRC)! ;P

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                      Looks like they were bloody socialists! :O [Survival of the friendliest? Why Homo sapiens outlived other humans | New Scientist](https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25233625-000-survival-of-the-friendliest-why-homo-sapiens-outlived-other-humans/)

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                      Yes, but they didn't have chiefs. Undemocratic leaders are the ones who are destroying any good socialism.

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                        Yes, but they didn't have chiefs. Undemocratic leaders are the ones who are destroying any good socialism.

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                        Super Lloyd
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                        Too deep a thought for my frivolous topic. But I 102% agree. :-D

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          There's an alternate theory relating to the uncanny valley phenomenon. It suggests that we killed anything off that looked mostly like we did. The creep factor we have is leavings from that early genocidal impulse. poor Neanderthals, if true! I can't recall where I encountered this, so YMMV but it stuck with me because I thought it was interesting.

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          If so, explain why Mark Zuckerberg is still alive.

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                            If so, explain why Mark Zuckerberg is still alive.

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                            In the same sense that my computer is "alive", presumably? :-D


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                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                              Yes, but they didn't have chiefs. Undemocratic leaders are the ones who are destroying any good socialism.

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                              No leaders becomes total warfare.

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                              • S Super Lloyd

                                It's not just competition, we all got Neandertal DNA (about 4% IIRC)! ;P

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                                CodeWraith
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                                That could mean that only 4% turned right here, and the remaining 96% went left. Roadsign[^]

                                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                  That could mean that only 4% turned right here, and the remaining 96% went left. Roadsign[^]

                                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                  Super Lloyd
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                                  You got me there! :laugh:

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