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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    Why the heck would you pose with guns anyway? :doh: Apart from the whole gun debate, let's for the moment say guns are your hobby and you love guns. I love games, movies and music, but you don't see me posing with any of those on a Christmas picture. And quite frankly, I never see anyone doing any of that. Posing with a football (soccer for Americans) for the football team Christmas card, sure. Posing with guns for the shooting range Christmas card, sure. Posing with footballs or guns for your Christmas family picture, just why? And then they say vegetarians are in your face about their diet. Hah, we could learn a thing or two from gun owners :laugh:

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    Likewise, I don't make xmas pics of me with my car (or my guns). However, I'm not gonna criticize anyone else for doing that. It is, after all, theoretically a free country. Maybe not in practice, but theoretically.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    • pkfoxP pkfox

      [Idiot and his family](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59543735)

      "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      Even ignoring the crass timing, I fail to see the connection between Christmas and assault rifles ... maybe it's an "'Murican Thang".

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Even ignoring the crass timing, I fail to see the connection between Christmas and assault rifles ... maybe it's an "'Murican Thang".

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        If y'all understood, we may would still be British subjects.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          If y'all understood, we may would still be British subjects.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Nah, we would have rebelled over the food at some point.

          I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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            Nah, we would have rebelled over the food at some point.

            I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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            Forogar
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            What? Oh, the portions weren't big enough? ...and it wasn't battered, extra crispy, fried to death (with extra bland yellow cheese substitute)?

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              Likewise, I don't make xmas pics of me with my car (or my guns). However, I'm not gonna criticize anyone else for doing that. It is, after all, theoretically a free country. Maybe not in practice, but theoretically.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              #realJSOP wrote:

              I'm not gonna criticize anyone else for doing that. It is, after all, theoretically a free country.

              I thought the freedom includes the freedom to criticize. Or pointing out the bad taste of someone who makes Christmas cards with guns. You know, this was supposed to be celebrating the birthday of someone who had little to do with guns and violence.

              Mircea

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                That's missing the point John, this was posted a few days after four people were killed in Michigan

                "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                pkfox wrote:

                a few days after four people were killed in Michigan

                Ummm... without taking one side or the other in regards to the silly Christmas card... dozens of people are killed with guns in Chicago every single week - sometimes it's dozens killed in a single weekend. Somehow our illustrious media mostly ignores these killings. It obviously doesn't support their narrative.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Likewise, I don't make xmas pics of me with my car (or my guns). However, I'm not gonna criticize anyone else for doing that. It is, after all, theoretically a free country. Maybe not in practice, but theoretically.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  I just don't get it, not just because they're tools of war (while Christmas is about peace), but just because. Especially a country's representative could just make a nice neutral Christmas picture, no? It's holiday, not hobby-day, after all ;) Anyway, you're right in that people should just do it if they want to (and face the consequences), but as a Dutchman I'm still entitled to my opinion on an American gun-holiday-picture on a Canadian programming website.

                  #realJSOP wrote:

                  Maybe not in practice, but theoretically.

                  We're all equal, it's just that some people are more equal than others ;)

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                    [Idiot and his family](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59543735)

                    "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                    Every single one of them is properly handling the weapon. None are pointed at anyone and no one has their finger near the trigger. (The congressman might but I suspect his finger is wrapped around the trigger guard.)

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      I just don't get it, not just because they're tools of war (while Christmas is about peace), but just because. Especially a country's representative could just make a nice neutral Christmas picture, no? It's holiday, not hobby-day, after all ;) Anyway, you're right in that people should just do it if they want to (and face the consequences), but as a Dutchman I'm still entitled to my opinion on an American gun-holiday-picture on a Canadian programming website.

                      #realJSOP wrote:

                      Maybe not in practice, but theoretically.

                      We're all equal, it's just that some people are more equal than others ;)

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                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                      I just don't get it, not just because they're tools of war (while Christmas is about peace),

                      No one ever gets peace without being willing to fight for it.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Even ignoring the crass timing, I fail to see the connection between Christmas and assault rifles ... maybe it's an "'Murican Thang".

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        The First Amendment to the US Constitution allows almost complete Freedom of Speech - including the right to make a public fool of oneself. (I'm not going to discuss the Second Amendment - it's too close to both politics and religion)

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          I don't see anything wrong with the photo. Everyone is practising proper trigger and muzzle discipline.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                          :thumbsup: Given that there are 330 million people in the USA, someone will find almost any photo that you can name insensitive. Are we to require ritual abasement and apologies for each of those, too?

                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            I just don't get it, not just because they're tools of war (while Christmas is about peace),

                            No one ever gets peace without being willing to fight for it.

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                            I did. And never been capable of fighting either. The reason for our prosperity is cooperation. :thumbsup:

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                              Sander Rossel wrote:

                              I just don't get it, not just because they're tools of war (while Christmas is about peace),

                              No one ever gets peace without being willing to fight for it.

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                              Sander Rossel
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                              Unless, you know, people wouldn't fight :doh: Our forefathers did a lot of fighting and as a result I never had to fight in my life. I was born into peace and still know it today, same for my parents. Their parents lived during WWII, but of the four, only one is still alive. So tell me, who are you fighting that you need all those guns?

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                                The First Amendment to the US Constitution allows almost complete Freedom of Speech - including the right to make a public fool of oneself. (I'm not going to discuss the Second Amendment - it's too close to both politics and religion)

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                                I'm not going to discuss the Second Amendment - it's too close to both politics and religion

                                I think Family Guy nailed it[^] :laugh:

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                                  The First Amendment to the US Constitution allows almost complete Freedom of Speech - including the right to make a public fool of oneself. (I'm not going to discuss the Second Amendment - it's too close to both politics and religion)

                                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                  Freedom speech allows us to identify the idiots.:)

                                  >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    Why the heck would you pose with guns anyway? :doh: Apart from the whole gun debate, let's for the moment say guns are your hobby and you love guns. I love games, movies and music, but you don't see me posing with any of those on a Christmas picture. And quite frankly, I never see anyone doing any of that. Posing with a football (soccer for Americans) for the football team Christmas card, sure. Posing with guns for the shooting range Christmas card, sure. Posing with footballs or guns for your Christmas family picture, just why? And then they say vegetarians are in your face about their diet. Hah, we could learn a thing or two from gun owners :laugh:

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                                    honey the codewitch
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                                    My husband is a member of a gun club, and they train, and provide security for events. He doesn't pose with his weapons. To the degree that it's a hobby, he does what a normal person with a hobby like that would do, and go to the range. One of things about this country that has been steadily eroded by lobbyists is emphasis on gun safety. And people wonder why we get some new story every week about some moron who shouldn't have had guns or kids being blown away by their toddler.

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                                      What? Oh, the portions weren't big enough? ...and it wasn't battered, extra crispy, fried to death (with extra bland yellow cheese substitute)?

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      You say that like it's a bad thing. And barbecue too. I'm more partial to Carolina than the stuff further west.

                                      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                                        What? Oh, the portions weren't big enough? ...and it wasn't battered, extra crispy, fried to death (with extra bland yellow cheese substitute)?

                                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                        honey the codewitch
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                                        You all can't really speak about food quality. You all stole most of the world's spices and can't be bothered to use them. My favorite British food is Indian food.

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                                          My husband is a member of a gun club, and they train, and provide security for events. He doesn't pose with his weapons. To the degree that it's a hobby, he does what a normal person with a hobby like that would do, and go to the range. One of things about this country that has been steadily eroded by lobbyists is emphasis on gun safety. And people wonder why we get some new story every week about some moron who shouldn't have had guns or kids being blown away by their toddler.

                                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                                          Sander Rossel
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                                          honey the codewitch wrote:

                                          they train, and provide security for events.

                                          That's not even allowed over here. Only the government is allowed to handle guns, so army and police. Security is rarely armed over here. We do have shooting ranges, but I know very few people who've ever been there, one or two I think. I guess this is unimaginable to many Americans, but guns simply do not exist in daily life over here. I mean, of course they exist, but it's almost always illegal and criminal. In 2019, someone shot some people in a tram in Utrecht, near where I work. That's the closest I've ever been to guns. There was also a shooting at a mall about ten years ago, people still remember it, even if they've never been there. I think we've had one school shooting ever.

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