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  • D dandy72

    obermd wrote:

    Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed.

    But this guy is a congressman...he is the government. He owns guns...what, in case he needs to overthrow what are essentially his coworkers?

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    obermd
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    True, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that he, and everyone else in the United States, has this as a fundamental right if needed.

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Yes, two and a half centuries ago, in which time you've never used it other than to defend gun ownership, so that makes it totally relevant today :thumbsup:

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      The overreach of the US and State governments telling people how to live in a world with a nasty virus, for starters.

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      • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

        obermd wrote:

        Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed.

        Respectfully, I would suggest that even if it was written with that intent, in the meantime said government bought a few tanks, airplanes, missiles, etc. while prohibiting the populace to buy any of them. Today your chance of "fighting the government" with guns is a bit less than zilch.

        Mircea

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        Maybe...

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        • O obermd

          Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed. Our freedoms are laid out in our Declaration of Independence (yes, the forgotten document) where it spells out that a free people have the fundamental right to replace their government at any time they feel they're being trampled on by said government. The second amendment is there to enforce that right.

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          Lost User
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          obermd wrote:

          Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed.

          Wuahaha :D Search your "amendments" or whatever they are for nukes. You already lost that arms race. Please stop being rediculous.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

            #realJSOP wrote:

            I'm not gonna criticize anyone else for doing that. It is, after all, theoretically a free country.

            I thought the freedom includes the freedom to criticize. Or pointing out the bad taste of someone who makes Christmas cards with guns. You know, this was supposed to be celebrating the birthday of someone who had little to do with guns and violence.

            Mircea

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            realJSOP
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            I never once said he couldn't criticize. However, foreigners opinions with regards to our Constitutional rights or how they're infringed carry no weight here (in the U.S.).

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              I just don't get it, not just because they're tools of war (while Christmas is about peace), but just because. Especially a country's representative could just make a nice neutral Christmas picture, no? It's holiday, not hobby-day, after all ;) Anyway, you're right in that people should just do it if they want to (and face the consequences), but as a Dutchman I'm still entitled to my opinion on an American gun-holiday-picture on a Canadian programming website.

              #realJSOP wrote:

              Maybe not in practice, but theoretically.

              We're all equal, it's just that some people are more equal than others ;)

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              realJSOP
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              He's not the country's representative - he's Kentucky's representative. States are sovereign in the U.S.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              • F Forogar

                What? Oh, the portions weren't big enough? ...and it wasn't battered, extra crispy, fried to death (with extra bland yellow cheese substitute)?

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                Maybe that's what GB is doing wrong. We kill the food before throwing it into a fryer. Y'all are heartless.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  I never once said he couldn't criticize. However, foreigners opinions with regards to our Constitutional rights or how they're infringed carry no weight here (in the U.S.).

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Amen! I would even go one more step and say that anything we write in this forum (except for programming stuff) carries very little weight. In my case, it's just a pastime for an old fart :laugh:

                  Mircea

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                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                    I'm sure they are as JSOP pointed out earlier - as a brit I struggle to understand why one family have enough firepower to win a small war

                    "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                    That's precisely why the 2nd Amendment exists, and why we have the right to keep/bear "weapons of war". But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security - U.S. Constitution, 1776 It's happened in the past, and it will most certainly happen again, and not just in the U.S.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      That's precisely why the 2nd Amendment exists, and why we have the right to keep/bear "weapons of war". But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security - U.S. Constitution, 1776 It's happened in the past, and it will most certainly happen again, and not just in the U.S.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      We'll beg to differ

                      "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                      • O obermd

                        True, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that he, and everyone else in the United States, has this as a fundamental right if needed.

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                        dandy72
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                        You don't see the circular logic problem here?

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