Unfortunately totally believable
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My husband is a member of a gun club, and they train, and provide security for events. He doesn't pose with his weapons. To the degree that it's a hobby, he does what a normal person with a hobby like that would do, and go to the range. One of things about this country that has been steadily eroded by lobbyists is emphasis on gun safety. And people wonder why we get some new story every week about some moron who shouldn't have had guns or kids being blown away by their toddler.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
they train, and provide security for events.
That's not even allowed over here. Only the government is allowed to handle guns, so army and police. Security is rarely armed over here. We do have shooting ranges, but I know very few people who've ever been there, one or two I think. I guess this is unimaginable to many Americans, but guns simply do not exist in daily life over here. I mean, of course they exist, but it's almost always illegal and criminal. In 2019, someone shot some people in a tram in Utrecht, near where I work. That's the closest I've ever been to guns. There was also a shooting at a mall about ten years ago, people still remember it, even if they've never been there. I think we've had one school shooting ever.
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Every single one of them is properly handling the weapon. None are pointed at anyone and no one has their finger near the trigger. (The congressman might but I suspect his finger is wrapped around the trigger guard.)
They could give lessons to a certain Hollywood actor.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
they train, and provide security for events.
That's not even allowed over here. Only the government is allowed to handle guns, so army and police. Security is rarely armed over here. We do have shooting ranges, but I know very few people who've ever been there, one or two I think. I guess this is unimaginable to many Americans, but guns simply do not exist in daily life over here. I mean, of course they exist, but it's almost always illegal and criminal. In 2019, someone shot some people in a tram in Utrecht, near where I work. That's the closest I've ever been to guns. There was also a shooting at a mall about ten years ago, people still remember it, even if they've never been there. I think we've had one school shooting ever.
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Well in our country, the police are pro-fascist**, and actively protect white supremacists and attack those that stand up to them, so the only way to have a safe anti-fascist counter-protest in this country is to bring your own security. That's why leftists here believe in an armed proletarian class. The liberals and the right wingers are the groups that want only "the right people" to have guns, and unfortunately, the way they've decided their "right people" isn't subject to things like rational discernment or even public review. Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement | Brennan Center for Justice[^] Law Enforcement and the Problem of White Supremacy | The New Yorker[^] Trust in Policing: The Role of White Supremacy[^] FBI Document Sheds Light on White Supremacist Infiltration of Police[^]
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Unless, you know, people wouldn't fight :doh: Our forefathers did a lot of fighting and as a result I never had to fight in my life. I was born into peace and still know it today, same for my parents. Their parents lived during WWII, but of the four, only one is still alive. So tell me, who are you fighting that you need all those guns?
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Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed. Our freedoms are laid out in our Declaration of Independence (yes, the forgotten document) where it spells out that a free people have the fundamental right to replace their government at any time they feel they're being trampled on by said government. The second amendment is there to enforce that right.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
they train, and provide security for events.
That's not even allowed over here. Only the government is allowed to handle guns, so army and police. Security is rarely armed over here. We do have shooting ranges, but I know very few people who've ever been there, one or two I think. I guess this is unimaginable to many Americans, but guns simply do not exist in daily life over here. I mean, of course they exist, but it's almost always illegal and criminal. In 2019, someone shot some people in a tram in Utrecht, near where I work. That's the closest I've ever been to guns. There was also a shooting at a mall about ten years ago, people still remember it, even if they've never been there. I think we've had one school shooting ever.
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#realJSOP wrote:
I'm not gonna criticize anyone else for doing that. It is, after all, theoretically a free country.
I thought the freedom includes the freedom to criticize. Or pointing out the bad taste of someone who makes Christmas cards with guns. You know, this was supposed to be celebrating the birthday of someone who had little to do with guns and violence.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
That's not even allowed over here.
Not allowed in the US either - unless the private security company is licensed and bonded. I get the feeling that "honey" is referring to something all together different.
People are allowed to organize militias in this country, fgs. At least in my state they are. Those militias can operate as an armed presence at part of an event where they are welcome. There is nothing illegal about that. Google orgs like Socialist Rifle Association and the John Brown Gun Club. We are talking about something different, clearly. Trouble is, I don't know what you're talking about.
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Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed. Our freedoms are laid out in our Declaration of Independence (yes, the forgotten document) where it spells out that a free people have the fundamental right to replace their government at any time they feel they're being trampled on by said government. The second amendment is there to enforce that right.
Yes, two and a half centuries ago, in which time you've never used it other than to defend gun ownership, so that makes it totally relevant today :thumbsup:
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People are allowed to organize militias in this country, fgs. At least in my state they are. Those militias can operate as an armed presence at part of an event where they are welcome. There is nothing illegal about that. Google orgs like Socialist Rifle Association and the John Brown Gun Club. We are talking about something different, clearly. Trouble is, I don't know what you're talking about.
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Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed. Our freedoms are laid out in our Declaration of Independence (yes, the forgotten document) where it spells out that a free people have the fundamental right to replace their government at any time they feel they're being trampled on by said government. The second amendment is there to enforce that right.
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Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed. Our freedoms are laid out in our Declaration of Independence (yes, the forgotten document) where it spells out that a free people have the fundamental right to replace their government at any time they feel they're being trampled on by said government. The second amendment is there to enforce that right.
obermd wrote:
Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed.
Respectfully, I would suggest that even if it was written with that intent, in the meantime said government bought a few tanks, airplanes, missiles, etc. while prohibiting the populace to buy any of them. Today your chance of "fighting the government" with guns is a bit less than zilch.
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They could give lessons to a certain Hollywood actor.
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I'll stand corrected... ...my experience is limited. I don't attend events where armed militias are needed - they sound "unhealthy".
What's unhealthy was what happened in Charlottesville. Where the cops did $#* all.
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[Idiot and his family](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59543735)
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What's unhealthy was what happened in Charlottesville. Where the cops did $#* all.
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I don't see anything wrong with the photo. Everyone is practising proper trigger and muzzle discipline.
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013:)
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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The CP Lounge is not the proper forum for this. In fact, CP no longer has any forum for this. Tread lightly.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I just don't get it, not just because they're tools of war (while Christmas is about peace),
No one ever gets peace without being willing to fight for it.
Dam right
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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If "opposition to white supremacist murderers" is a political issue I want the nearest shuttle off this planet.
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Sorry if I seem to have opened a hornets nest
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Yes, two and a half centuries ago, in which time you've never used it other than to defend gun ownership, so that makes it totally relevant today :thumbsup:
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THe 2nd ammendment is irrelevant??? It's never been more relevant than today. Is the 1st irrelevant? The 4th? The 5th? They're not irrelevant because the 2nd still is.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
