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  • H honey the codewitch

    People are allowed to organize militias in this country, fgs. At least in my state they are. Those militias can operate as an armed presence at part of an event where they are welcome. There is nothing illegal about that. Google orgs like Socialist Rifle Association and the John Brown Gun Club. We are talking about something different, clearly. Trouble is, I don't know what you're talking about.

    Real programmers use butterflies

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    fgs1963
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    I'll stand corrected... ...my experience is limited. I don't attend events where armed militias are needed - they sound "unhealthy".

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    • O obermd

      Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed. Our freedoms are laid out in our Declaration of Independence (yes, the forgotten document) where it spells out that a free people have the fundamental right to replace their government at any time they feel they're being trampled on by said government. The second amendment is there to enforce that right.

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      dandy72
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      obermd wrote:

      Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed.

      But this guy is a congressman...he is the government. He owns guns...what, in case he needs to overthrow what are essentially his coworkers?

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        Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed. Our freedoms are laid out in our Declaration of Independence (yes, the forgotten document) where it spells out that a free people have the fundamental right to replace their government at any time they feel they're being trampled on by said government. The second amendment is there to enforce that right.

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        Mircea Neacsu
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        obermd wrote:

        Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed.

        Respectfully, I would suggest that even if it was written with that intent, in the meantime said government bought a few tanks, airplanes, missiles, etc. while prohibiting the populace to buy any of them. Today your chance of "fighting the government" with guns is a bit less than zilch.

        Mircea

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        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

          They could give lessons to a certain Hollywood actor.

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          Lost User
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          GET TO DA CHOPPA, NOW!

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          • F fgs1963

            I'll stand corrected... ...my experience is limited. I don't attend events where armed militias are needed - they sound "unhealthy".

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            honey the codewitch
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            What's unhealthy was what happened in Charlottesville. Where the cops did $#* all.

            Real programmers use butterflies

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            • pkfoxP pkfox

              [Idiot and his family](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59543735)

              "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              Lost User
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              2 dummies are not going to create geniuses.

              It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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              • H honey the codewitch

                What's unhealthy was what happened in Charlottesville. Where the cops did $#* all.

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                fgs1963
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                The CP Lounge is not the proper forum for this. In fact, CP no longer has any forum for this. Tread lightly.

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                • F fgs1963

                  The CP Lounge is not the proper forum for this. In fact, CP no longer has any forum for this. Tread lightly.

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  If "opposition to white supremacist murderers" is a political issue I want the nearest shuttle off this planet.

                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    I don't see anything wrong with the photo. Everyone is practising proper trigger and muzzle discipline.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    :)

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      If "opposition to white supremacist murderers" is a political issue I want the nearest shuttle off this planet.

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      Sorry if I seem to have opened a hornets nest

                      "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                      • O obermd

                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        I just don't get it, not just because they're tools of war (while Christmas is about peace),

                        No one ever gets peace without being willing to fight for it.

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                        Kevin Marois
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                        Dam right

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Yes, two and a half centuries ago, in which time you've never used it other than to defend gun ownership, so that makes it totally relevant today :thumbsup:

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                          Kevin Marois
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                          THe 2nd ammendment is irrelevant??? It's never been more relevant than today. Is the 1st irrelevant? The 4th? The 5th? They're not irrelevant because the 2nd still is.

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                          • O obermd

                            Every single one of them is properly handling the weapon. None are pointed at anyone and no one has their finger near the trigger. (The congressman might but I suspect his finger is wrapped around the trigger guard.)

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                            I'm sure they are as JSOP pointed out earlier - as a brit I struggle to understand why one family have enough firepower to win a small war

                            "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                              Sorry if I seem to have opened a hornets nest

                              "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                              honey the codewitch
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                              It seems everything is political these days. Even decency. It makes me a little sick. It's not your fault. I'm just over it.

                              Real programmers use butterflies

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                              • pkfoxP pkfox

                                I'm sure they are as JSOP pointed out earlier - as a brit I struggle to understand why one family have enough firepower to win a small war

                                "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                fgs1963
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                                pkfox wrote:

                                as a brit I struggle to understand why one family have enough firepower to win a small war

                                Really?!?![^]

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  I don't see anything wrong with the photo. Everyone is practising proper trigger and muzzle discipline.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  jhaga
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                                  #realJSOP wrote:

                                  Everyone is practising proper trigger and muzzle discipline.

                                  True. But that woman could easily shoot the head of the man. :)

                                  jhaga

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                                    #realJSOP wrote:

                                    Everyone is practising proper trigger and muzzle discipline.

                                    True. But that woman could easily shoot the head of the man. :)

                                    jhaga

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                                    jeron1
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                                    jhaga wrote:

                                    easily shoot the head of the man.

                                    Now that would make for a much more interesting greeting card.

                                    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                      pkfox wrote:

                                      as a brit I struggle to understand why one family have enough firepower to win a small war

                                      Really?!?![^]

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                                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                                      They have enough firepower to win a big war... :-\

                                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                        jhaga wrote:

                                        easily shoot the head of the man.

                                        Now that would make for a much more interesting greeting card.

                                        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                        jhaga
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                                        I bet that would wipe the smile off his face

                                        jhaga

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                                        • J jhaga

                                          I bet that would wipe the smile off his face

                                          jhaga

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                                          jeron1
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                                          In more ways than one. :laugh:

                                          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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