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  • L Lost User

    0x01AA wrote:

    Once upon a time c# was such a beautiful, simply/logical

    You could say the same thing about nearly every piece of software today. My OS feels bloated, my compiler IDE feels bloated, my word processor is certainly bloated, even the languages are becoming bloated. :sigh: What happened to 'Keep it Simple'? Best Wishes, David Delaune

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    honey the codewitch
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    I love deving IoT because of this.

    Real programmers use butterflies

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    • L Lost User

      0x01AA wrote:

      Once upon a time c# was such a beautiful, simply/logical

      You could say the same thing about nearly every piece of software today. My OS feels bloated, my compiler IDE feels bloated, my word processor is certainly bloated, even the languages are becoming bloated. :sigh: What happened to 'Keep it Simple'? Best Wishes, David Delaune

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      BillWoodruff
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      I noticed that when i feel bloated, everything looks bloated.

      «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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      • L Lost User

        0x01AA wrote:

        Once upon a time c# was such a beautiful, simply/logical

        You could say the same thing about nearly every piece of software today. My OS feels bloated, my compiler IDE feels bloated, my word processor is certainly bloated, even the languages are becoming bloated. :sigh: What happened to 'Keep it Simple'? Best Wishes, David Delaune

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        Slacker007
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        the best thing for bloating is a good fart or two. I wonder if there is a way to make software fart.

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          Marketing. They have to motivate selling a newer version.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          Lost User
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          Yep, But just imagine how many bugs could be fixed if we just take a break and stop adding more features. :-D

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          • H honey the codewitch

            I love deving IoT because of this.

            Real programmers use butterflies

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            Lost User
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            Well, The boards you play around with are simply too weak to do much of anything but read sensors. I can't find anything I want to use in the IoT world. Any suggestions? I have about a dozen Arm SBC I do get some use out of some of those for NAS, DNS and time servers. My next purchase will be a SiFive RISC-V board[^] just to get early exposure to the instruction set. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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              I noticed that when i feel bloated, everything looks bloated.

              «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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              Lost User
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              BillWoodruff wrote:

              when i feel bloated, everything looks bloated

              Kinda like everybody's pretty when I'm drunk? :-D

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                the best thing for bloating is a good fart or two. I wonder if there is a way to make software fart.

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                Lost User
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                Slacker007 wrote:

                I wonder if there is a way to make software fart.

                Easy Peasy. Just lay off everybody that works on the test teams. Stink will follow. X|

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                • L Lost User

                  Yep, But just imagine how many bugs could be fixed if we just take a break and stop adding more features. :-D

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  That's why many companies change the business model to SAAS

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                  • L Lost User

                    Well, The boards you play around with are simply too weak to do much of anything but read sensors. I can't find anything I want to use in the IoT world. Any suggestions? I have about a dozen Arm SBC I do get some use out of some of those for NAS, DNS and time servers. My next purchase will be a SiFive RISC-V board[^] just to get early exposure to the instruction set. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    Check out the ESP32 WROVER, but honestly? In Jan. Espressif is officially releasing the ESP32-S3 which is a monster. It has a ton of GPIO, like the ARM boards. It has a USB port you can program to be anything you want (like a USB HID device), it has at least 2MB of PSRAM, and 512kB of SRAM, 300kB or so of which is effectively available for user stuff. The CPU is dual core, at up to 240mhz. The SPI tops out at either 40MHz, or 80Mhz, I forget. If nothing else, I know one of the busses is tappable at 80Mhz but you're sharing it with the PSRAM I think, and you have to be careful how you use it. There might be a totally free 80MHz SPI bus now, I haven't looked into it. But even 40Mhz will drive a small display, and there are enough pins to drive an 8-bit parallel with plenty of pins left over if you need something faster. You can program it in micropython or the ESP-IDF using C or C++. Arduino support is coming, maybe by the time they officially ship. I have a reference board, but I'm not using it because the toolchain is still very preliminary.

                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                    • L Lost User

                      So it is becoming more like Python. :omg:

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                      Mircea Neacsu
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                      Or more like:

                      ADD 5 TO SUM GIVING SUM5

                      Yuk! :rolleyes:

                      Mircea

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                        BillWoodruff wrote:

                        when i feel bloated, everything looks bloated

                        Kinda like everybody's pretty when I'm drunk? :-D

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                        As a student, I didn't have much money. I was living with a girl then, and we had to cut down on everything - she insisted that we couldn't even spend any money on beer. Jeeez ... being a student with no beer?? But I was obedient. Then one day she came home having bought makeup for $98.50. I got really mad: You will not allow me even a single beer, and then you go out and spend almost a hundred dollars on makeup! (This is long ago and $100 was a lot more buying power than today.) Of course she started crying: The makeup was so that I would look pretty to you ... I made a deep sigh: But ... That's what I had the beer for! I never saw her again.

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                          Or more like:

                          ADD 5 TO SUM GIVING SUM5

                          Yuk! :rolleyes:

                          Mircea

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                          trønderen
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                          An old list of computer hacker terms explained 'COBOL fingers' as fingers worn down to the last joint.

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                            ...and spice it up with some '?.' and what else. Once upon a time c# was such a beautiful, simply/logical structured language :((

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            0x01AA wrote:

                            Once upon a time c# was such a beautiful, simply/logical structured language

                            It still is!

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                              So it is becoming more like Python. :omg:

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                              Stepan Hakobyan
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                              More like Basic ))) I like that.

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                                As a student, I didn't have much money. I was living with a girl then, and we had to cut down on everything - she insisted that we couldn't even spend any money on beer. Jeeez ... being a student with no beer?? But I was obedient. Then one day she came home having bought makeup for $98.50. I got really mad: You will not allow me even a single beer, and then you go out and spend almost a hundred dollars on makeup! (This is long ago and $100 was a lot more buying power than today.) Of course she started crying: The makeup was so that I would look pretty to you ... I made a deep sigh: But ... That's what I had the beer for! I never saw her again.

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                                Andrei Bozantan
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                                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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                                  0x01AA wrote:

                                  Once upon a time c# was such a beautiful, simply/logical

                                  You could say the same thing about nearly every piece of software today. My OS feels bloated, my compiler IDE feels bloated, my word processor is certainly bloated, even the languages are becoming bloated. :sigh: What happened to 'Keep it Simple'? Best Wishes, David Delaune

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                                  Leo56
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                                  "Computer Scientists" decided to make things more "pure".... :sigh:

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    0x01AA wrote:

                                    Once upon a time c# was such a beautiful, simply/logical

                                    You could say the same thing about nearly every piece of software today. My OS feels bloated, my compiler IDE feels bloated, my word processor is certainly bloated, even the languages are becoming bloated. :sigh: What happened to 'Keep it Simple'? Best Wishes, David Delaune

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                                    JohaViss61
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                                    'Keep it Simple' refers to the users. Because users are getting more and more less educated (Friendly way of saying 'Dumber' :laugh: ), software needs to be 'smarter' (Friendly way of saying 'Bloated' :sigh: ) :suss:

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                                      So it is becoming more like Python. :omg:

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                                      Member 14840496
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                                      Looks more like SQL or Basic. I hope this doesn't keep seeping into other statements. Like: if(myBool is not false) {} if(thisString does not contain("yipes!")) {} if(myString contains("hello") then change it to "goodbye". var myVar = "a variable" END OF STATEMENT The more "stuff" you add to a statement, the more likely that (1) more mistakes will occur, (2) Intellisense will overflow and stop working, and (3) the compiler will choke to death.

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                                        I was thinking Sql Server T-Sql. When checking for null you need to use WHERE A.SomeColumn IS NOT NULL

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                                        "X IS NOT NULL" is actually an SQL language standard, not just T-SQL.

                                        Daniel

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                                          More like Basic ))) I like that.

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                                          KLPounds
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                                          As a longtime VB developer.. It always makes me smile just a little to watch C# language evolve and become a little more "wordy" with each new version. Having spent my first .NET developer years in a "C# is superior to VB in every way because ......" environment, It warms the heart to see old concepts, syntax, and patterns once viewed as inferior years later turn into evolutionary improvement. I applaud the change as I can see cases where that could codebases that are extremely data heavy read a little easier. For anyone but the purists anyway. If I were converting legacy VB code to C# "IsNot" to "Is Not" would feel more natural to me.

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