AMD Ryzen and heat
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Except the benchmark problem - do you see an actual problem while working on the computer? Do you know the site 'tom's hardware'? It is a very good place to ask questions about hardware...
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Tom's hardware? I didn't think that site was legitimate. I got malware from there once I think, but it was years ago. I don't see a problem per se, but the numbers are so out of whack it makes me wonder if there *is* one, you know? I don't like the idea of hardware anomalies on my system. Smells like trouble to me.
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How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?
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Maybe you could use AMD RYZEN MASTER[^]. Hope this helps.
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How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?
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Get reminded of an anecdote told by a Computer Science Professor: In the 1980s, there was an advertisement in a computer magazine that "Our chip is so modern and great that it can complete an infinite loop in 3 minutes." Reality was that this chip would melt away in 3 minutes while performing the infinite loop computation. So, in essence, the chip completed the infinite loop in 3 minutes.
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Maybe you could use AMD RYZEN MASTER[^]. Hope this helps.
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Thanks! I poked at it, and my EDC pegs all red under load, but I guess that's normal. It hasn't helped the mystery of the underperforming/undertemp issue, but it did show me that the CPU is indeed clocking to full speed under load. This isn't a big deal - i mean I do wish single core performance was a bit better for long compiles, but mostly this thing is a MONSTER. Even limping along like it is it blows the doors off of a lot of other CPU/APUs. My main concern is that I may have something misconfigured, and I don't like the idea of undervolting my chip too much, or something like that. So I'm just trying to figure out the why of this.
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Tom's hardware? I didn't think that site was legitimate. I got malware from there once I think, but it was years ago. I don't see a problem per se, but the numbers are so out of whack it makes me wonder if there *is* one, you know? I don't like the idea of hardware anomalies on my system. Smells like trouble to me.
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I got no malware from that site, but some good answers... As for hardware anomalies... Benchmark is not exactly rocket science and if beside it your experience is good I would not bother myself over it... Run your most demanding game and see how it behaves - that is a more solid test than any benchmark software...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I got no malware from that site, but some good answers... As for hardware anomalies... Benchmark is not exactly rocket science and if beside it your experience is good I would not bother myself over it... Run your most demanding game and see how it behaves - that is a more solid test than any benchmark software...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?
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https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-views-ryzen-5000-cpu-temperatures-up-to-95c-as-typical-and-by-design/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZO1jEouNHs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qoiv2S\_fu4
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Well, my single core performance *could be better* but that's more about shortening compile times. With the monster video card I have in it, it eats games.
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Do you use -m (or any other definition of parallel compiling)? It may help not to use a single core for all the compilations...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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65 C while under stress is very good... The 9-line is graded up the close to 100 C, the 7-line is around 85 C... Probably with age you will see some higher temperatures... In case it comes you can bring in some serious cooling system... or switch the CPU... However for now the 65 C is more than perfect...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I have an AMD Ryzen too! :) (AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, according to the device manager) I have no idea how to check temperature or run performance test.. but if you send some link my way I could run the same thing on my machine, as a comparison, if you like? Caveat, I am using Windows 11, if it makes any difference... I also have virtual hardware on (for Windows Sandbox! ;P) Found it! This thing right? [HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID](https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) (oh this is just the monitoring / temperature thing)
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I have an AMD Ryzen too! :) (AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, according to the device manager) I have no idea how to check temperature or run performance test.. but if you send some link my way I could run the same thing on my machine, as a comparison, if you like? Caveat, I am using Windows 11, if it makes any difference... I also have virtual hardware on (for Windows Sandbox! ;P) Found it! This thing right? [HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID](https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) (oh this is just the monitoring / temperature thing)
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You meant to post it to @code-witch I believe...
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You meant to post it to @code-witch I believe...
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oops, yes
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How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?
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I have an AMD Ryzen too! :) (AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, according to the device manager) I have no idea how to check temperature or run performance test.. but if you send some link my way I could run the same thing on my machine, as a comparison, if you like? Caveat, I am using Windows 11, if it makes any difference... I also have virtual hardware on (for Windows Sandbox! ;P) Found it! This thing right? [HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID](https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) (oh this is just the monitoring / temperature thing)
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How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?
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You might be interested in this article: How to overclock an AMD Ryzen CPU | PC Gamer[^]
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How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?
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AMD had always the heat as negative point with their processors, they have got way better in this topic. I run a Ryzen 7 5800xt with a Dark Rock 4 Pro tower as CPU cooler. Having played some games and done my standard usage, never heard the CPU fan going high (yet).
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Tom's hardware? I didn't think that site was legitimate. I got malware from there once I think, but it was years ago. I don't see a problem per se, but the numbers are so out of whack it makes me wonder if there *is* one, you know? I don't like the idea of hardware anomalies on my system. Smells like trouble to me.
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I like HardwareLuxx too (german forum, but you find english threads as well)... they were really helpful getting my graphics card and I found several guys to be really competent with AMD topics (however there are a lot of wannabes, as anywhere else in the internet)
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It's called HWMonitor by CPUID - the same folks that make CPU-Z HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID[^] Edit: Now I'm hearing that tool doesn't report temps correctly on AMD systems so I'm trying this one: HWInfo64[^]
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You might do the stress test, a fast reboot and read the temperature in the bios. Is going to be a bit lower, but it should be accurate
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Tom's hardware? I didn't think that site was legitimate. I got malware from there once I think, but it was years ago. I don't see a problem per se, but the numbers are so out of whack it makes me wonder if there *is* one, you know? I don't like the idea of hardware anomalies on my system. Smells like trouble to me.
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I like HardwareLuxx too (german forum, but you find english threads as well)... they were really helpful getting my graphics card and I found several guys to be really competent with AMD topics (however there are a lot of wannabes, as anywhere else in the internet)
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Do you use -m (or any other definition of parallel compiling)? It may help not to use a single core for all the compilations...
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GCC doesn't seem to be thread aware, but your build system might be. For example, gnu make takes -j to specify how many jobs to run simultaneously. The man page says "If the -j option is given without an argument, make will not limit the number of jobs that can run simultaneously.", which sounds like you'd run into context switch issues if you have a large project with many large modules. Visual Studio can do multi processor compiles too[Enabling Multi-Processor (Parallel) Builds in Visual Studio • Helge Klein](https://helgeklein.com/blog/enabling-multi-processor-parallel-builds-in-visual-studio/)
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GCC doesn't seem to be thread aware, but your build system might be. For example, gnu make takes -j to specify how many jobs to run simultaneously. The man page says "If the -j option is given without an argument, make will not limit the number of jobs that can run simultaneously.", which sounds like you'd run into context switch issues if you have a large project with many large modules. Visual Studio can do multi processor compiles too[Enabling Multi-Processor (Parallel) Builds in Visual Studio • Helge Klein](https://helgeklein.com/blog/enabling-multi-processor-parallel-builds-in-visual-studio/)
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IIRC -m is for msbuild... If you need on GCC you should use make's -j to do that...
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