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  • S Super Lloyd

    I have an AMD Ryzen too! :) (AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, according to the device manager) I have no idea how to check temperature or run performance test.. but if you send some link my way I could run the same thing on my machine, as a comparison, if you like? Caveat, I am using Windows 11, if it makes any difference... I also have virtual hardware on (for Windows Sandbox! ;P) Found it! This thing right? [HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID](https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) (oh this is just the monitoring / temperature thing)

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    You meant to post it to @code-witch I believe...

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      You meant to post it to @code-witch I believe...

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      oops, yes

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      • H honey the codewitch

        How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?

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        I have an AMD Ryzen too! :) (AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, according to the device manager) I have no idea how to check temperature or run performance test.. but if you send some link my way I could run the same thing on my machine, as a comparison, if you like? Caveat, I am using Windows 11, if it makes any difference... I also have virtual hardware on (for Windows Sandbox! ;P) Found it! This thing right? [HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID](https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) (oh this is just the monitoring / temperature thing)

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        • H honey the codewitch

          How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?

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          You might be interested in this article: How to overclock an AMD Ryzen CPU | PC Gamer[^]

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          • H honey the codewitch

            How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?

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            AMD had always the heat as negative point with their processors, they have got way better in this topic. I run a Ryzen 7 5800xt with a Dark Rock 4 Pro tower as CPU cooler. Having played some games and done my standard usage, never heard the CPU fan going high (yet).

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            • H honey the codewitch

              Tom's hardware? I didn't think that site was legitimate. I got malware from there once I think, but it was years ago. I don't see a problem per se, but the numbers are so out of whack it makes me wonder if there *is* one, you know? I don't like the idea of hardware anomalies on my system. Smells like trouble to me.

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              Nelek
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              I like HardwareLuxx too (german forum, but you find english threads as well)... they were really helpful getting my graphics card and I found several guys to be really competent with AMD topics (however there are a lot of wannabes, as anywhere else in the internet)

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              • H honey the codewitch

                It's called HWMonitor by CPUID - the same folks that make CPU-Z HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID[^] Edit: Now I'm hearing that tool doesn't report temps correctly on AMD systems so I'm trying this one: HWInfo64[^]

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                You might do the stress test, a fast reboot and read the temperature in the bios. Is going to be a bit lower, but it should be accurate

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  Tom's hardware? I didn't think that site was legitimate. I got malware from there once I think, but it was years ago. I don't see a problem per se, but the numbers are so out of whack it makes me wonder if there *is* one, you know? I don't like the idea of hardware anomalies on my system. Smells like trouble to me.

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                  • N Nelek

                    I like HardwareLuxx too (german forum, but you find english threads as well)... they were really helpful getting my graphics card and I found several guys to be really competent with AMD topics (however there are a lot of wannabes, as anywhere else in the internet)

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      Do you use -m (or any other definition of parallel compiling)? It may help not to use a single core for all the compilations...

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                      GCC doesn't seem to be thread aware, but your build system might be. For example, gnu make takes -j to specify how many jobs to run simultaneously. The man page says "If the -j option is given without an argument, make will not limit the number of jobs that can run simultaneously.", which sounds like you'd run into context switch issues if you have a large project with many large modules. Visual Studio can do multi processor compiles too[Enabling Multi-Processor (Parallel) Builds in Visual Studio • Helge Klein](https://helgeklein.com/blog/enabling-multi-processor-parallel-builds-in-visual-studio/)

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                        GCC doesn't seem to be thread aware, but your build system might be. For example, gnu make takes -j to specify how many jobs to run simultaneously. The man page says "If the -j option is given without an argument, make will not limit the number of jobs that can run simultaneously.", which sounds like you'd run into context switch issues if you have a large project with many large modules. Visual Studio can do multi processor compiles too[Enabling Multi-Processor (Parallel) Builds in Visual Studio • Helge Klein](https://helgeklein.com/blog/enabling-multi-processor-parallel-builds-in-visual-studio/)

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                        IIRC -m is for msbuild... If you need on GCC you should use make's -j to do that...

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          I have an AMD Ryzen too! :) (AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, according to the device manager) I have no idea how to check temperature or run performance test.. but if you send some link my way I could run the same thing on my machine, as a comparison, if you like? Caveat, I am using Windows 11, if it makes any difference... I also have virtual hardware on (for Windows Sandbox! ;P) Found it! This thing right? [HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID](https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) (oh this is just the monitoring / temperature thing)

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          That same site has CPU-Z you can use to stress or bench

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                            You might be interested in this article: How to overclock an AMD Ryzen CPU | PC Gamer[^]

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            Yeah I'll take a look. I'm not looking at OCing, but I do want to know why my machine is running so cool and underperforming under load.

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?

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                              I do not own a Ryzen but have been using AMD for a long time. I bought one Ryzen 3 some two years ago for my brother and the temperatures were close to yours while benchmarking. From the top of my head, if your problem is just with single core performance, it is probably a motherboard configuration issue. AMD motherboards usually have a configuration to unlock single core frequency. In my 11 year old Asus motherboard it is called "core unlocker". What it does, when enabled, is to allow the cores to independently increase their frequency (up to the turbo frequency) without increasing for all cores. It might have happen that, during your benchmark, you probably have that feature disabled (the default) and the CPU thought that it hasn't necessary to increase the frequency of the entire CPU just so that your single task on that single core would run faster. I suggest you enable that feature for the benchmark only because it can cause (not confirmed) system instability and shorten the life span of the CPU to have it enabled all the time, due to points (location of each core) in the CPU die heating much more than the rest of the CPU. Alternatively, run more things while running the benchmark so that more cores are busy and the CPU throttles its frequency for all cores.

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                              • H honey the codewitch

                                That same site has CPU-Z you can use to stress or bench

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                                Super Lloyd
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                                I saw the bench tab... but.. errmm.. I have no clue what to do, haha, oh well, never mind

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                                • H honey the codewitch

                                  How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  In anticipation of heat issues, I chose bequiet dark rock pro 4 coolers for both my itx boards, and love them. Overkill, they keep mine at close to human body temperatures, even in socal summer heat. Huge and spendy, but quiet -- you can check their site to see if it'll fit your board and case headroom. One of them was nicely discounted, snagged from Amazon warehouse; presumably returned by someone that neglected to check headroom before purchasing. Stay cool my friends. ~jm

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                                  • S Super Lloyd

                                    I saw the bench tab... but.. errmm.. I have no clue what to do, haha, oh well, never mind

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                                    honey the codewitch
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                                    There's a bench button you just click and it does it's thing. Then you can compare it with other cpus.

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                                      In anticipation of heat issues, I chose bequiet dark rock pro 4 coolers for both my itx boards, and love them. Overkill, they keep mine at close to human body temperatures, even in socal summer heat. Huge and spendy, but quiet -- you can check their site to see if it'll fit your board and case headroom. One of them was nicely discounted, snagged from Amazon warehouse; presumably returned by someone that neglected to check headroom before purchasing. Stay cool my friends. ~jm

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                                      honey the codewitch
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                                      I won't be upgrading the cooling while I'm using this mobo. 65 degrees under load is cool as a cucumber. Too cool really, given that my CPU is underperforming @ userbenchmark.com

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                                      • H honey the codewitch

                                        How many of you run a modern(ish) Ryzen? They seem to run a little hot. 65C while stress testing, but I read somewhere these chips are good for up to 90 degrees or so. I know nothing about AMD. Am I totally off base here thinking my chip is actually running pretty cool for this series of chips?

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                                        Since no one else has asked, is your machine running Win 10 or Win 11? Win 11 has performance issues with AMD systems.

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                                        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                          Since no one else has asked, is your machine running Win 10 or Win 11? Win 11 has performance issues with AMD systems.

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                                          honey the codewitch
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                                          I'm running 10. I won't touch 11 for maybe another year or so.

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