Windows 11 + Linux + .NET question
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WSLg is widely available to the public, as is Explorer integration using 9P. 3D acceleration in WSLg ain't available to the public. Last time I checked (which is somewhen last week), you have to run preview drivers to get this working. Whether you consider preview software "available to the public", is up to debate, of course. My personal definition includes shoving all preview stuff into the enthusiast category, with the public being defined as RTM-ready. I know I'll be porting one of my recent work to Linux, debugging in WSL.
Yeah... when my home project is... complete enough, I might have a go at the Linux port! ^^
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Yeah... when my home project is... complete enough, I might have a go at the Linux port! ^^
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I think, it's roughly the same for me. I surely got a nook or cranny I'd like to polish for a bit before I think about running this thing on a rented server (main raison d'etre for WSL-debugging in this particular case, rented Windows servers cost an order of magnitude or so more, than their Linux counterparts). Come to think of it, the vast majority of my code is OS-agnostic so I could, actually, start porting this thing more or less right now. Thanks for inspiring me for taking the next step in this project! :)
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I think, it's roughly the same for me. I surely got a nook or cranny I'd like to polish for a bit before I think about running this thing on a rented server (main raison d'etre for WSL-debugging in this particular case, rented Windows servers cost an order of magnitude or so more, than their Linux counterparts). Come to think of it, the vast majority of my code is OS-agnostic so I could, actually, start porting this thing more or less right now. Thanks for inspiring me for taking the next step in this project! :)
You're welcome! :) Mine is a desktop GUI... so using Desktop / OS tech.... But hey, I am curious about Avalonia! :)
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You're welcome! :) Mine is a desktop GUI... so using Desktop / OS tech.... But hey, I am curious about Avalonia! :)
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Mine is, and I'm damn grateful I don't get to sink my teeth into the thorny topic of Linux GUIs, a server-sided console project. To be honest, I've no idea how I would go about programming something GUI for Linux. I mean, I got an emergency plan should I ever get product requirements about Linux support for a GUI project at my workplace and that emergency plan would be Windows.Forms under Mono. Still, I hope https://github.com/jsuarezruiz/forms-gtk-progress/issues/31 to yield some results in the years to come. WSLg should at least provide a sensible debugging experience in this scenario, it can run Edge after all, so it may just as well run my GUI.
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I recently spotted a Linux icon in the Windows Explorer. That's right, I remembered, I installed the Linux something for Windows. Then I also remembered, sometimes.. in the past? future? I know not... Linux GUI / X-Windows app support should come to the... err... WLS? (Windows Linux Subsystem? Did I get the name right?). And then perhaps I could try Avalonia for Linux from the comfort of my Windows Desktop. Which brings me to my question... is any of this is already available to general public? (I don't feel like risking my desktop into the Windows Insider Program, I got only one desktop) Bonus question: is there that many normal non IT user using Linux out there? I am thinking to port (when it is complete) my take over the world app... But that might be a pointless endeavor! :laugh:
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It's called Windows Subsystem for Linux, and yes, it's production stable and in the regular build. I recommend WSL 1. It doesn't need a hypervisor, has seamless file-system access, and you can just pick a distro you like and it works without X and without deamons. It's like running Linux natively, but much better in every way, since your drivers actually work and Windows Defender is lightyears ahead of anything in penguin land. WSL 2 adds UI and service layer support to WSL 1, but uses Hyper-V to virtualize the file-system, which is stupid on multiple levels. The worst thing about Linux is X11/Wayland, the second worst thing are the deamons. Offering both and as a trade-off to being forced to use Hyper-V is like agreeing to get slapped in the face, so you can get punched in the gut. When WSL1 is used right, you can integrate any Linux-specific toolchain on Windows. Right now I'm running Guacamole, SQLPad and code-server with SSO via tunnel over cloudflare access, all running inside WSL1 with less latency than if I was using a native Linux distro.
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I recently spotted a Linux icon in the Windows Explorer. That's right, I remembered, I installed the Linux something for Windows. Then I also remembered, sometimes.. in the past? future? I know not... Linux GUI / X-Windows app support should come to the... err... WLS? (Windows Linux Subsystem? Did I get the name right?). And then perhaps I could try Avalonia for Linux from the comfort of my Windows Desktop. Which brings me to my question... is any of this is already available to general public? (I don't feel like risking my desktop into the Windows Insider Program, I got only one desktop) Bonus question: is there that many normal non IT user using Linux out there? I am thinking to port (when it is complete) my take over the world app... But that might be a pointless endeavor! :laugh:
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Super Lloyd wrote:
is there that many normal non IT user using Linux out there?
When the disk failed on my wife's underpowered vista laptop I slapped Ubuntu on it and she loved it. I was much faster and was fine for everything she needed (browsing, writing a few documents). The only problem she had was sending / receiving documents in Microsoft word format - mainly because other people were not used to importing docs in other formats. My wife is most definitely not a IT person.
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macOS is actually based on BSD Unix...
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Super Lloyd wrote:
is there that many normal non IT user using Linux out there?
When the disk failed on my wife's underpowered vista laptop I slapped Ubuntu on it and she loved it. I was much faster and was fine for everything she needed (browsing, writing a few documents). The only problem she had was sending / receiving documents in Microsoft word format - mainly because other people were not used to importing docs in other formats. My wife is most definitely not a IT person.
Yeah, my wife wouldn't have a problem running Linux. Over the years I've migrated her to using cross platform tools (Firefox, Thunderbird and Libre Office). About the only thing I'll have to do is install Zoom and she'll be set. I figure when Win 10 support is done, I'll just install whatever my current favorite Linux is (currently MX Linux).
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is there that many normal non IT user using Linux out there?
Only those in the lunatic fringes. Well, me, I am not sure I qualify as an IT type anymore. I spent most of yesterday shooting a failure that was caused by a 1/12/2022 Windows update (12/1/2022 for you right ponders).
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
I'm a 'lunatic fringe' user of Linux. Windows 8 got me looking at Linux or BSD as an alternative. I gave BSD about six months of use and then tried Linux for six months. I actually like BSD better than Linux except for the lag on supporting new hardware. Linux was much better at supporting newer hardware. I'm currently using MX Linux as my daily driver. It handles most of my daily computing needs with the biggest exception being games. Only about half of my Steam games (using Proton) work under Linux. I really only have one other application that keeps a Windows partition on my system, that's Affinity Photo. I really like the application and I really dislike Gimp. One thing I will say about Linux vs Windows is that I've had way fewer issues maintaining my Linux system then I've had maintaining my Windows 10 machines (10 Windows 10 boxes).
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It's called Windows Subsystem for Linux, and yes, it's production stable and in the regular build. I recommend WSL 1. It doesn't need a hypervisor, has seamless file-system access, and you can just pick a distro you like and it works without X and without deamons. It's like running Linux natively, but much better in every way, since your drivers actually work and Windows Defender is lightyears ahead of anything in penguin land. WSL 2 adds UI and service layer support to WSL 1, but uses Hyper-V to virtualize the file-system, which is stupid on multiple levels. The worst thing about Linux is X11/Wayland, the second worst thing are the deamons. Offering both and as a trade-off to being forced to use Hyper-V is like agreeing to get slapped in the face, so you can get punched in the gut. When WSL1 is used right, you can integrate any Linux-specific toolchain on Windows. Right now I'm running Guacamole, SQLPad and code-server with SSO via tunnel over cloudflare access, all running inside WSL1 with less latency than if I was using a native Linux distro.
Well.. my Linux interest was to test Avalonia, as a substitute to WPF on Linux & Mac.... so.. I need X11! ;P
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