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-8 F/-22.22 C Here in Upstate New York This Morning

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  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

    Currently -24F/-31C here in Ottawa (-38F/-39C with wind chill). 🤮

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    theoldfool
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    I can relate. Spent a fun filled winter in Fairbanks many years ago. Spent most of the day working outside. Many days the high was in the negative 30's. Couldn't handle that today.

    >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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      Outside. Some distance North of Miami (God's waiting room).

      >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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      37F here in White Springs, a little ways north of you!

      The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

        37F here in White Springs, a little ways north of you!

        The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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        Is that where they have a Folk Festival Mike ?

        "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          Is that where they have a Folk Festival Mike ?

          "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          Yep, the park, where they hold it is about 4 blocks from my house.

          The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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          • S Slacker007

            So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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            The temperature this morning was a balmy 22 C / 72 F. Come to sunny Israel! :)

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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              The temperature this morning was a balmy 22 C / 72 F. Come to sunny Israel! :)

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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              My mother went to Israel in the 80's with a few friends. She really enjoyed it. She was trying to learn Hebrew at the time, I think. She had befriended an elderly lady at the time who was an Holocaust survivor, and through there discussions and hanging out, my mother felt compelled to visit Israel. I actually would like to visit Israel and surrounding countries sometime. Not sure if it will happen anytime soon, but I would like to. As a side note: My in-laws visited Israel about 10 years ago or so with their church group, and were escorted off a bus at a checkpoint by soldiers with machine guns because it was "not safe" for tourists to be traveling that route at that time. Yikes!!

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                My mother went to Israel in the 80's with a few friends. She really enjoyed it. She was trying to learn Hebrew at the time, I think. She had befriended an elderly lady at the time who was an Holocaust survivor, and through there discussions and hanging out, my mother felt compelled to visit Israel. I actually would like to visit Israel and surrounding countries sometime. Not sure if it will happen anytime soon, but I would like to. As a side note: My in-laws visited Israel about 10 years ago or so with their church group, and were escorted off a bus at a checkpoint by soldiers with machine guns because it was "not safe" for tourists to be traveling that route at that time. Yikes!!

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                We did a similar trip in 2019, but we were allowed into the West Bank (the 'safer' sections). The army only checked us on the way back into Israel proper.

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                  My mother went to Israel in the 80's with a few friends. She really enjoyed it. She was trying to learn Hebrew at the time, I think. She had befriended an elderly lady at the time who was an Holocaust survivor, and through there discussions and hanging out, my mother felt compelled to visit Israel. I actually would like to visit Israel and surrounding countries sometime. Not sure if it will happen anytime soon, but I would like to. As a side note: My in-laws visited Israel about 10 years ago or so with their church group, and were escorted off a bus at a checkpoint by soldiers with machine guns because it was "not safe" for tourists to be traveling that route at that time. Yikes!!

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                  Slacker007 wrote:

                  were escorted off a bus at a checkpoint by soldiers with machine guns because it was "not safe" for tourists to be traveling that route at that time.

                  It could have been an army drill (Israel is quite small - about the size of New Jersey), so they closed off the downrange area. If they had a local tour guide, in addition to the pastor who lead the group, he/she was remiss in not checking for this sort of thing before choosing the day's route.

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                    Currently -24F/-31C here in Ottawa (-38F/-39C with wind chill). 🤮

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                    We have one particular outgoing pipe (the catch) in our house that freezes when it is consistently 10F or less -- over 12 hours or so. I always wonder how you in those especially frozen climates keep everything thawed? Are your houses built with more specific insulation around pipes & keeping pipes away from outside walls? Just curious & good luck with your cold snap.

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                      We have one particular outgoing pipe (the catch) in our house that freezes when it is consistently 10F or less -- over 12 hours or so. I always wonder how you in those especially frozen climates keep everything thawed? Are your houses built with more specific insulation around pipes & keeping pipes away from outside walls? Just curious & good luck with your cold snap.

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                      There's certainly more insulation, with pipes coming in under the frost line. Never a need to drip faucets here, unlike a few times when I lived in Dallas.

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                        We have one particular outgoing pipe (the catch) in our house that freezes when it is consistently 10F or less -- over 12 hours or so. I always wonder how you in those especially frozen climates keep everything thawed? Are your houses built with more specific insulation around pipes & keeping pipes away from outside walls? Just curious & good luck with your cold snap.

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                        Also, up here we have anti-freeze faucets for all outside faucets. Something like this: AQUA-DYNAMIC Brass Straight Anti Freeze Valve Hydrant 1390-140 | RONA[^]

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                        • S Slacker007

                          So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                          trønderen
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                          I grew up inland in Norway, where the winter air was super dry, like outdoors RH down to 20% (everyone had humidifiers in their homes to prevent wood from drying out so much that it would crack up), and no wind at all - we used to joke that if the aspen leaves are moving, the local newspaper will make a story about the storm. (For those of you unfamiliar with aspen: The tremble all the time, even when the wind is so weak that you hardly will notice it at all.) We had no idea what 'wind chill factor' was about when it was included in the weather forecasts. We didn't consider it 'real winter' until the temperature fell below -20°C. In school, we where kicked outdoors in the breaks between lessons, to get some fresh air. The limit for being allowed to stay indoors was at -20°C outdoor temperature. Nowadays, I live by a fjord. The air is a lot more humid; 0°C is a lot colder than -20°C where I grew up. If we also have a 10 m/s wind, the frost is unbearable, even with only a couple degrees below zero. Yet, I still think of 'wind chill' primarily as an argument in a "Mine is bigger than yours!" quarrel. It certainly is essential to the effect on the bare skin you expose outdoors. It is completely irrelevant to any mechanical device (such as starting your car, or the low-temperature battery capacity loss of your electric car). If it marginally affects the required heating of your house, then the insulation is far too poor. (At least by Norwegian standards - our houses are extremely well insulated.) When someone refers to the wind chill adjusted temperature only, my immediate thought is 'Oh well, so you want to sound impressive. Fair enough, but maybe I am not that impressed, especially if you are not talking about being out walking in the wind."

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                          • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                            Also, up here we have anti-freeze faucets for all outside faucets. Something like this: AQUA-DYNAMIC Brass Straight Anti Freeze Valve Hydrant 1390-140 | RONA[^]

                            Mircea

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                            trønderen
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                            Isn't that standard everywhere? I never saw an outdoor faucet around here either anti-freeze (when you crank it closed, you drive a long rod to close it at the inside of the wall, where the temperature is presumed to be above freezing - that is the reason for that long pipe in the photos of that link), or you have a second valve in your basement: Before winter, you close the indoor valve and open the outdoor one to allow the water between the two valves to run out. But that is mostly in 50+ year old houses.

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                              Isn't that standard everywhere? I never saw an outdoor faucet around here either anti-freeze (when you crank it closed, you drive a long rod to close it at the inside of the wall, where the temperature is presumed to be above freezing - that is the reason for that long pipe in the photos of that link), or you have a second valve in your basement: Before winter, you close the indoor valve and open the outdoor one to allow the water between the two valves to run out. But that is mostly in 50+ year old houses.

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                              trønderen wrote:

                              Isn't that standard everywhere?

                              Not sure. I was telling a friend in France and he seemed unaware of this. But then, in most of France winter is just wet and miserable :laugh:

                              Mircea

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                                So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                                22 C in Bangalore, Southern India. And it's likely to grow hotter.

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                                • S Slacker007

                                  So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                                  stoneyowl2
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                                  I sympathize. I had to go to an *OUTDOOR" wedding yesterday, with temp around 72F , descending to mid 50s by dusk. After living 30 years in Alaska, I just about froze my tookus off :-D :-O

                                  Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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                                  • S Slacker007

                                    So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                                    Slow Eddie
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                                    It was 28 F here in New Orleans this morning. I stayed in bed! Not used to that cold weather, otherwise I would move up to Maine. Seriously!

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                                    • S Slacker007

                                      So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                                      Roger Wright
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                                      Brrrrr.... It's balmy 70°F here. :-D

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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