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-8 F/-22.22 C Here in Upstate New York This Morning

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  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

    Currently -24F/-31C here in Ottawa (-38F/-39C with wind chill). 🤮

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    We have one particular outgoing pipe (the catch) in our house that freezes when it is consistently 10F or less -- over 12 hours or so. I always wonder how you in those especially frozen climates keep everything thawed? Are your houses built with more specific insulation around pipes & keeping pipes away from outside walls? Just curious & good luck with your cold snap.

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      We have one particular outgoing pipe (the catch) in our house that freezes when it is consistently 10F or less -- over 12 hours or so. I always wonder how you in those especially frozen climates keep everything thawed? Are your houses built with more specific insulation around pipes & keeping pipes away from outside walls? Just curious & good luck with your cold snap.

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      There's certainly more insulation, with pipes coming in under the frost line. Never a need to drip faucets here, unlike a few times when I lived in Dallas.

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        We have one particular outgoing pipe (the catch) in our house that freezes when it is consistently 10F or less -- over 12 hours or so. I always wonder how you in those especially frozen climates keep everything thawed? Are your houses built with more specific insulation around pipes & keeping pipes away from outside walls? Just curious & good luck with your cold snap.

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        Also, up here we have anti-freeze faucets for all outside faucets. Something like this: AQUA-DYNAMIC Brass Straight Anti Freeze Valve Hydrant 1390-140 | RONA[^]

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        • S Slacker007

          So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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          I grew up inland in Norway, where the winter air was super dry, like outdoors RH down to 20% (everyone had humidifiers in their homes to prevent wood from drying out so much that it would crack up), and no wind at all - we used to joke that if the aspen leaves are moving, the local newspaper will make a story about the storm. (For those of you unfamiliar with aspen: The tremble all the time, even when the wind is so weak that you hardly will notice it at all.) We had no idea what 'wind chill factor' was about when it was included in the weather forecasts. We didn't consider it 'real winter' until the temperature fell below -20°C. In school, we where kicked outdoors in the breaks between lessons, to get some fresh air. The limit for being allowed to stay indoors was at -20°C outdoor temperature. Nowadays, I live by a fjord. The air is a lot more humid; 0°C is a lot colder than -20°C where I grew up. If we also have a 10 m/s wind, the frost is unbearable, even with only a couple degrees below zero. Yet, I still think of 'wind chill' primarily as an argument in a "Mine is bigger than yours!" quarrel. It certainly is essential to the effect on the bare skin you expose outdoors. It is completely irrelevant to any mechanical device (such as starting your car, or the low-temperature battery capacity loss of your electric car). If it marginally affects the required heating of your house, then the insulation is far too poor. (At least by Norwegian standards - our houses are extremely well insulated.) When someone refers to the wind chill adjusted temperature only, my immediate thought is 'Oh well, so you want to sound impressive. Fair enough, but maybe I am not that impressed, especially if you are not talking about being out walking in the wind."

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            Also, up here we have anti-freeze faucets for all outside faucets. Something like this: AQUA-DYNAMIC Brass Straight Anti Freeze Valve Hydrant 1390-140 | RONA[^]

            Mircea

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            Isn't that standard everywhere? I never saw an outdoor faucet around here either anti-freeze (when you crank it closed, you drive a long rod to close it at the inside of the wall, where the temperature is presumed to be above freezing - that is the reason for that long pipe in the photos of that link), or you have a second valve in your basement: Before winter, you close the indoor valve and open the outdoor one to allow the water between the two valves to run out. But that is mostly in 50+ year old houses.

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              Isn't that standard everywhere? I never saw an outdoor faucet around here either anti-freeze (when you crank it closed, you drive a long rod to close it at the inside of the wall, where the temperature is presumed to be above freezing - that is the reason for that long pipe in the photos of that link), or you have a second valve in your basement: Before winter, you close the indoor valve and open the outdoor one to allow the water between the two valves to run out. But that is mostly in 50+ year old houses.

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              trønderen wrote:

              Isn't that standard everywhere?

              Not sure. I was telling a friend in France and he seemed unaware of this. But then, in most of France winter is just wet and miserable :laugh:

              Mircea

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              • S Slacker007

                So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                22 C in Bangalore, Southern India. And it's likely to grow hotter.

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                • S Slacker007

                  So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                  stoneyowl2
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                  I sympathize. I had to go to an *OUTDOOR" wedding yesterday, with temp around 72F , descending to mid 50s by dusk. After living 30 years in Alaska, I just about froze my tookus off :-D :-O

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                  • S Slacker007

                    So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                    Slow Eddie
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                    It was 28 F here in New Orleans this morning. I stayed in bed! Not used to that cold weather, otherwise I would move up to Maine. Seriously!

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                    • S Slacker007

                      So cold. -15/-32 F with wind chill.

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                      Brrrrr.... It's balmy 70°F here. :-D

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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