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  • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

    My turn to rant ... A couple of months ago, lulled by positive reviews like this[^], I got myself a Corsair Harpoon mouse, may its name live in infamy! This is nothing like what I've expected. Biggest problem is the ridiculously short battery life: about a week on average and that's without the fancy RGB lightning. I was used to Microsoft mice where I would recharge batteries once every 6 months or less and now I'm stuck with this thing that dies on me every other week. To add insult to injury, the software that comes with it is atrocious. All fancy-schmancy UI but every other day it says the device is not available and it cannot show me the battery level. I have to restart the frigging UI to find the mouse again. Besides the battery level is available only when using the RF dongle, not in Bluetooth mode. That occupies another USB port on my hub. In short, this is not a wireless mouse. It is a wired mouse that can occasionally be disconnected. bleah... [end of rant] Can someone recommend a mouse that (in order of importance): - is ambidextrous. I alternate between my hands to avoid RSI. - has a good (maybe gaming level) resolution. I occasionally do PCB design and other CAD work. - is wireless. Heck, we are in 21st century! - doesn't break the bank

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    Rage
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    I would recommend an Evoluent mouse, even if it breaks all of your requirements :-D Evoluent VerticalMouse Vertical Mouse ergonomic mouse ergonomic computer mouse carpal tunnel syndrome repetitive stress disorder RSI[^] - Alternating is not necessary anymore, because the vertical position is not causing RSI - This mouse literally got me rid of the carpal tunnel syndrome I suffered from before using it. - Resolution is higher than you will ever need, and I am the kind of guy doing pixel-precise screenshots. - You can choose wireless, but I prefer hard wired for everything - a cable is reliable, and I have not had any problem with cables lying around on my desk. - Cheap is expensive -> I bought my Evoluent mouse in ... 2005, it still works like a charm. /edit: I must add that they had a wonderful customer support back then -> the hardware chip interpreting the scroll wheel signal bugged after about three years usage, and after I notified them about it, they ... sent me a brand new mouse from the US as a replacement with an apology for the problem ! Cannot judge whether this is still valid nowadays, since I experienced no problem with the mouse since then, but this was truly unexpected for an item out of warranty time :thumbsup:

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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    • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

      My turn to rant ... A couple of months ago, lulled by positive reviews like this[^], I got myself a Corsair Harpoon mouse, may its name live in infamy! This is nothing like what I've expected. Biggest problem is the ridiculously short battery life: about a week on average and that's without the fancy RGB lightning. I was used to Microsoft mice where I would recharge batteries once every 6 months or less and now I'm stuck with this thing that dies on me every other week. To add insult to injury, the software that comes with it is atrocious. All fancy-schmancy UI but every other day it says the device is not available and it cannot show me the battery level. I have to restart the frigging UI to find the mouse again. Besides the battery level is available only when using the RF dongle, not in Bluetooth mode. That occupies another USB port on my hub. In short, this is not a wireless mouse. It is a wired mouse that can occasionally be disconnected. bleah... [end of rant] Can someone recommend a mouse that (in order of importance): - is ambidextrous. I alternate between my hands to avoid RSI. - has a good (maybe gaming level) resolution. I occasionally do PCB design and other CAD work. - is wireless. Heck, we are in 21st century! - doesn't break the bank

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      ElectronProgrammer
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      You have my sympathy. I too have lost a lot of time/patience/hair to mice. I have RSI and, from my experience, a good ambidextrous wireless mouse that is also not too expensive and durable is hard to find. I did not had any luck with that yet. My previous one did not last to the end of the warranty. My solution, that I currently employ, is to have a mouse for all the fast work and a pen tablet for the precision work. And keep alternating between the two. The mouse I use is a logitech mx master 3 (right hand only). I have it for a few months and haven't charged it since I bought it (November, I think). There is software to configure it in Linux if you need. The pen tablet is a wired Wacom Bamboo Fun (CTE-650) but I think there were wireless versions back when I bought it (2007 maybe?!). Like the mouse, it has software to configure in Linux. Configuring the buttons on the tablet to zoom in/out makes life easier. I can not say anything about the software for windows because I work only in Linux but it used to be good on windows 7 (for the pen tablet) and did not get on the way of work. Regarding battery life, depending on what amount you refer to with "breaking the bank", there are wireless mice that have the charger in the mouse pad so, as long as the mouse is on top and almost centered on the mouse pad, it will charge even when you are using it. Probably you will not find one that is ambidextrous. Good luck.

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      • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

        My turn to rant ... A couple of months ago, lulled by positive reviews like this[^], I got myself a Corsair Harpoon mouse, may its name live in infamy! This is nothing like what I've expected. Biggest problem is the ridiculously short battery life: about a week on average and that's without the fancy RGB lightning. I was used to Microsoft mice where I would recharge batteries once every 6 months or less and now I'm stuck with this thing that dies on me every other week. To add insult to injury, the software that comes with it is atrocious. All fancy-schmancy UI but every other day it says the device is not available and it cannot show me the battery level. I have to restart the frigging UI to find the mouse again. Besides the battery level is available only when using the RF dongle, not in Bluetooth mode. That occupies another USB port on my hub. In short, this is not a wireless mouse. It is a wired mouse that can occasionally be disconnected. bleah... [end of rant] Can someone recommend a mouse that (in order of importance): - is ambidextrous. I alternate between my hands to avoid RSI. - has a good (maybe gaming level) resolution. I occasionally do PCB design and other CAD work. - is wireless. Heck, we are in 21st century! - doesn't break the bank

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        Maximilien
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        Fun thing happened today. My mouse batteries just died!! :rolleyes:

        CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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          Fun thing happened today. My mouse batteries just died!! :rolleyes:

          CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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          Mircea Neacsu
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          Yeah, that must be fun! Doubly so when you have a deadline coming up :rolleyes:

          Mircea

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          • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

            honey the codewitch wrote:

            if you gets one without a rechargeable feature - like it takes AA batteries - it will last longer.

            You are probably right but I don't see why. I used to put 2 NiMH rechargeables in my Microsoft mouse and they would last 6 months. Why the frigging LiIon-s can't do it.

            honey the codewitch wrote:

            Cheap ones aren't very accurate

            That's a problem. For any CAD work I need to be somewhere between 2000 and 5000 dpi if I want to work comfortably. Otherwise I need to zoom to tremendous scales to hit something. Looks like I have to wait for the 22nd century for a decent mouse. :laugh: Edit:

            honey the codewitch wrote:

            If you CAD at your desk you may consider getting a wired gaming mouse

            Unfortunately it looks like that :(

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            jmaida
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            Have Logitech M215 mouse and K360 keyboard. amazing battery life and uses standard AA batteries Standard batteries are the way to go. Mouse accuracy is very good. Uses Logitech wireless USB receiver for both mouse and keyboard

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            • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

              My turn to rant ... A couple of months ago, lulled by positive reviews like this[^], I got myself a Corsair Harpoon mouse, may its name live in infamy! This is nothing like what I've expected. Biggest problem is the ridiculously short battery life: about a week on average and that's without the fancy RGB lightning. I was used to Microsoft mice where I would recharge batteries once every 6 months or less and now I'm stuck with this thing that dies on me every other week. To add insult to injury, the software that comes with it is atrocious. All fancy-schmancy UI but every other day it says the device is not available and it cannot show me the battery level. I have to restart the frigging UI to find the mouse again. Besides the battery level is available only when using the RF dongle, not in Bluetooth mode. That occupies another USB port on my hub. In short, this is not a wireless mouse. It is a wired mouse that can occasionally be disconnected. bleah... [end of rant] Can someone recommend a mouse that (in order of importance): - is ambidextrous. I alternate between my hands to avoid RSI. - has a good (maybe gaming level) resolution. I occasionally do PCB design and other CAD work. - is wireless. Heck, we are in 21st century! - doesn't break the bank

              Mircea

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              Joan M
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              I would say this one: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-anywhere-3-for-business.910-006215.html[^] Hope this helps. :)

              www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                I would say this one: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-anywhere-3-for-business.910-006215.html[^] Hope this helps. :)

                www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                I might try it. Thanks for the tip.

                Mircea

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                • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                  My turn to rant ... A couple of months ago, lulled by positive reviews like this[^], I got myself a Corsair Harpoon mouse, may its name live in infamy! This is nothing like what I've expected. Biggest problem is the ridiculously short battery life: about a week on average and that's without the fancy RGB lightning. I was used to Microsoft mice where I would recharge batteries once every 6 months or less and now I'm stuck with this thing that dies on me every other week. To add insult to injury, the software that comes with it is atrocious. All fancy-schmancy UI but every other day it says the device is not available and it cannot show me the battery level. I have to restart the frigging UI to find the mouse again. Besides the battery level is available only when using the RF dongle, not in Bluetooth mode. That occupies another USB port on my hub. In short, this is not a wireless mouse. It is a wired mouse that can occasionally be disconnected. bleah... [end of rant] Can someone recommend a mouse that (in order of importance): - is ambidextrous. I alternate between my hands to avoid RSI. - has a good (maybe gaming level) resolution. I occasionally do PCB design and other CAD work. - is wireless. Heck, we are in 21st century! - doesn't break the bank

                  Mircea

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                  Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                  his is nothing like what I've expected. Biggest problem is the ridiculously short battery life: about a week on average and that's without the fancy RGB lightning.

                  Appears to be up to spec since this is exactly what the following says. https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/19/corsair-harpoon-rgb-wireless-gaming-mouse[^] I presume you stop using the mouse and computer at some point in the day. Why not just plug it in? I use a wireless mouse that takes actual batteries. I change them once a year because I change the batteries in everything that often. Never had a problem. It is a M510 mouse from Logitech. I switch hands back and forth for the same reason you mentioned.

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                    Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                    his is nothing like what I've expected. Biggest problem is the ridiculously short battery life: about a week on average and that's without the fancy RGB lightning.

                    Appears to be up to spec since this is exactly what the following says. https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/19/corsair-harpoon-rgb-wireless-gaming-mouse[^] I presume you stop using the mouse and computer at some point in the day. Why not just plug it in? I use a wireless mouse that takes actual batteries. I change them once a year because I change the batteries in everything that often. Never had a problem. It is a M510 mouse from Logitech. I switch hands back and forth for the same reason you mentioned.

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                    Mircea Neacsu
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                    jschell wrote:

                    Why not just plug it in?

                    Because I forget? :) Because I need to keep another cable to clutter my desk? :)

                    jschell wrote:

                    I switch hands back and forth

                    I switch mostly left to right :laugh: I'll see myself out on the back door

                    Mircea

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                    • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                      Thanks for the tip. One review[^] says:

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                      This is an affordable mouse for people who don't care much about how accurate or responsive the mouse is,

                      Well... I care about how accurate it is :laugh:

                      Mircea

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                      BryanFazekas
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                      I have the K350/M510 combo -- actually, it's my second one -- first one last > 5 years, IIRC correctly. My biggest complaint is the lettering wears off the keyboard. The mouse works quite well and the battery life is probably a year. I use Amazon Basic mice for my laptop and work laptop, and I'm pleased with them, although the battery life is probably 6-9 months. They won't work for the OP as they are right-handed only.

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                      • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                        It is a possibility but changing mouse resolutions is unpleasant. I find it changes my eye to hand coordination. For the moment I’m debating between using the Corsair as a corded mouse or throwing another 60$ or so on a Logitech G305.

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                        englebart
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                        Understood. I HATE using another person’s mouse because of preference differences, acceleration, etc. I see what you are saying. Not a problem anymore because we always screen share due to covid even if we are sitting 3 meters apart!

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