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  • D dandy72

    Back when I was in high school, I had a woodworking class and had spent a considerable amount of time thinking about designing a desk where the desk itself would be the chassis. I never went through with it however (which is probably for the best). The idea I had was that both front legs would essentially be enclosed cabinets with enough room to fit a motherboard and a bunch of peripherals; the back legs would've had power outlets running the full vertical length, essentially acting as extra-long power strips. Holes for fans, sliders for hot-swappable drives with front access...let your imagination run wild. I figured it would've been a heat trap, so it would've had a ton of fans. Which of course means the whole thing would've been noisy. Again...probably a good thing it never progressed any farther than a thought in my mind...

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    Lost User
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    Yeah, I made that mistake and got scorchmarks in my desk to prove it. You need ventilation and it'll work. No passive cooling if you use anything wood. My worst idea ever :D

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      I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box. When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws. Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that. Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.

      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      Mircea Neacsu
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      Just the other day I was told of a friend's mishap: the power supply in his chassis was a bit bigger than expected and the motherboard wouldn't fit. He cut a corner of the motherboard to make it fit.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        You just reminded me that the HDDs in my MicroVAX are kinda/sorta/vaguely held in place with cable ties, because it didn't include the proper brackets. :wtf:

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        I prefer the cotton string because it does not propagate vibrations as much as cable ties if the HDD is hanging in the air. The down side is that it deteriorates a lot faster. Vibrations were the reason I used four laptop HDDs in RAID instead of a single desktop HDD. Obviously, the situation I described was temporary and after some time I bought a proper chassis. But, if it works in your case and the HDDs are not shutting down/parking heads/becoming corrupted you can let it be. Anyway, I would recommend that you buy the brackets if you can and, if they are made of metal, they will help dissipate the heat from the HDDs. The HDDs will be healthier and live longer.

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          ElectronProgrammer
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          That is a little awkward to turn into a computer chassis :doh: . And looks oversized. I bet they would charge me an extra ticket to carry that on a public transport :sigh: . If instead you are referring to trashing the computer, it was brand new. I just could not afford a mobile chassis. The cheapest one at the time was a few thousand euros. Looking at your signature, if your are just reacting to my cat sticker, it was just a joke because of all the string inside the chassis :laugh: . I love cats :-D .

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          • H honey the codewitch

            I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box. When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws. Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that. Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.

            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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            Marc Clifton
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            honey the codewitch wrote:

            When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws.

            I put a Commodore PET in a wooden box once. Not sure why, it was rather flimsy. Also, I used to work on various ROM "extensions" for the PET, so I had this PCB where I plugged in the ROM's and wired up two external multi-position switches for the $A000 and $B000 (or something like that) ROM select lines.

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            • L Lost User

              Got a desk with drawers on one side, and a box (closet?) on the other one. Box is four drawers high. Mounted a mini-PC motherboard in it. Passive cooling, very silent. The current PC doesn't fit; a monster of a machine built by a gamer. I still miss that old mini-PC though. In terms of performance, it outran many full sized desktops. Remember I said passive cooling? It burnt in a summer three years ago, scorched the desk. I was proud of it, and consider it my "best" machine. The worst, could have burnt down the house.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              ElectronProgrammer
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              There are desks like that although most have the computer under a glass on the top and are made of metal. Search "computer desk case" and you may find something. Passive cooling anything needs to be in a place that is naturally well ventilated, preferably with a very small draft (imperceptible by humans). That is the little information that manufacturers held back or most people would not buy them. If it is not in a naturally well ventilated place, it will eventually burn. In the best case scenario it just stops working.

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                There are desks like that although most have the computer under a glass on the top and are made of metal. Search "computer desk case" and you may find something. Passive cooling anything needs to be in a place that is naturally well ventilated, preferably with a very small draft (imperceptible by humans). That is the little information that manufacturers held back or most people would not buy them. If it is not in a naturally well ventilated place, it will eventually burn. In the best case scenario it just stops working.

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                Enclosed in wood, it burns. And those desks expensive.

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                  I prefer the cotton string because it does not propagate vibrations as much as cable ties if the HDD is hanging in the air. The down side is that it deteriorates a lot faster. Vibrations were the reason I used four laptop HDDs in RAID instead of a single desktop HDD. Obviously, the situation I described was temporary and after some time I bought a proper chassis. But, if it works in your case and the HDDs are not shutting down/parking heads/becoming corrupted you can let it be. Anyway, I would recommend that you buy the brackets if you can and, if they are made of metal, they will help dissipate the heat from the HDDs. The HDDs will be healthier and live longer.

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                  ElectronProgrammer wrote:

                  buy the brackets

                  Yeah, I'll get right on that. :-D This is an early-80s system, getting drives (narrow SCSI?) is difficult enough. I did check Ebay a few years ago. I should check a again, but I would likely need to buy another entire system. https://www.codeproject.com/Uploads/Membership/Uploads/2587207/ermine.png[^]

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                    ElectronProgrammer wrote:

                    buy the brackets

                    Yeah, I'll get right on that. :-D This is an early-80s system, getting drives (narrow SCSI?) is difficult enough. I did check Ebay a few years ago. I should check a again, but I would likely need to buy another entire system. https://www.codeproject.com/Uploads/Membership/Uploads/2587207/ermine.png[^]

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                    ElectronProgrammer
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                    I know the felling. My favorite computer that I have is a Compaq Contura Aero 4/25 and I used it so much the display melted (4bit gray scale 640x480). Can not find a compatible replacement anywhere :(( Only once I saw a used display from a dead Contura but they wanted 400€ :wtf: Nice computer you got there, by the way :-D

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box. When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws. Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that. Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.

                      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                      kmoorevs
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                      OK, not a computer chassis, but a hack nonetheless... Way back in the mid 80's, I bought a new Korg synthesizer. It had inputs for 3 pedals: 0: Naturally, a sustain pedal 1: A switch to advance to the next programmed sound 2: A volume pedal I couldn't afford the factory pedals, so I made my own with parts from Radio Shack, a few old pieces of wood, springs, some string, and a few girders and pulleys from my old childhood Erector set! The sustain and program advance switches were easy, but the volume pedal took some engineering so that it would rotate a rheostat using the string. :) It worked until I could afford better equipment!

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box. When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws. Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that. Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.

                        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                        trønderen
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                        Not computer hack, but nevertheless worth mentioning: A fellow student of mine bought a used car really cheap. One problem was that while driving, the shift box frequently slipped from the selected gear into neutral, disengaged, loosing all power. So my friend bought a couple of neodymium magnets, gluing one to his shift stick, the other one to the dashboard. This was enough to keep the speed stick in position, keeping it from flipping back to neutral.

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                          Not computer hack, but nevertheless worth mentioning: A fellow student of mine bought a used car really cheap. One problem was that while driving, the shift box frequently slipped from the selected gear into neutral, disengaged, loosing all power. So my friend bought a couple of neodymium magnets, gluing one to his shift stick, the other one to the dashboard. This was enough to keep the speed stick in position, keeping it from flipping back to neutral.

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          :laugh:

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                            I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box. When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws. Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that. Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.

                            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                            trønderen
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                            Another car hack (referring to the above one) from the student days: One of my fellow students broke the multi-function handle of his car - the handle only, none of the switches. The handle itself couldn't be bought separately, you had to buy the entire box with all the switches, at a cost that was a fortune on a student budget. So he rather bought a tube of super-glue, gluing an old toothbrush to the remains of the old handle. For years, we saw him flipping his old toothbrush up and down, forwards and backwards, and twisting it around, serving all the functions that the old handle did before he broke it.

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                              I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box. When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws. Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that. Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.

                              To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                              englebart
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                              Windows for Workgroups 3.1 came pre loaded with networkable Hearts, the card game for up to four players. We took a left over chassis that had dual floppies. Hacked enough of the OS and game across the 2 floppies (total of 2.4 Mb) to be able to boot it and join the game. Never bothered to put the case back on in case we wanted to scavenge serial port cards or the monochrome monitor card.

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                                Windows for Workgroups 3.1 came pre loaded with networkable Hearts, the card game for up to four players. We took a left over chassis that had dual floppies. Hacked enough of the OS and game across the 2 floppies (total of 2.4 Mb) to be able to boot it and join the game. Never bothered to put the case back on in case we wanted to scavenge serial port cards or the monochrome monitor card.

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                I approve of this. :)

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                                  ElectronProgrammer wrote:

                                  buy the brackets

                                  Yeah, I'll get right on that. :-D This is an early-80s system, getting drives (narrow SCSI?) is difficult enough. I did check Ebay a few years ago. I should check a again, but I would likely need to buy another entire system. https://www.codeproject.com/Uploads/Membership/Uploads/2587207/ermine.png[^]

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                                  Gary R Wheeler
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                                  That keyboard brings back memories. Back in the day when I worked on a microVAX-II with a VT220 I had a little program that would set the "Do" key to emit a string. Very useful when doing an edit/compile/debug cycle.

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                                    I prefer the cotton string because it does not propagate vibrations as much as cable ties if the HDD is hanging in the air. The down side is that it deteriorates a lot faster. Vibrations were the reason I used four laptop HDDs in RAID instead of a single desktop HDD. Obviously, the situation I described was temporary and after some time I bought a proper chassis. But, if it works in your case and the HDDs are not shutting down/parking heads/becoming corrupted you can let it be. Anyway, I would recommend that you buy the brackets if you can and, if they are made of metal, they will help dissipate the heat from the HDDs. The HDDs will be healthier and live longer.

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                                    englebart
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                                    Did you do an ohm meter test on the cotton string? I would be afraid of static transmission. I thought silk was a better insulator. I vaguely remember some story about Ben Franklin flying a kite in a lightning storm with a silk string.

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                                      Another car hack (referring to the above one) from the student days: One of my fellow students broke the multi-function handle of his car - the handle only, none of the switches. The handle itself couldn't be bought separately, you had to buy the entire box with all the switches, at a cost that was a fortune on a student budget. So he rather bought a tube of super-glue, gluing an old toothbrush to the remains of the old handle. For years, we saw him flipping his old toothbrush up and down, forwards and backwards, and twisting it around, serving all the functions that the old handle did before he broke it.

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                                      englebart
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                                      Was it one of the toothbrushes that had the little pick on the end? Or he messed up and used the end with the bristles? Too funny. Great description.

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                                        I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box. When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws. Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that. Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.

                                        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                        englebart
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                                        Not a chassis hack, but a peripheral hack. The Commodore 64 joystick had 4 contact switches for directions and 1 for the button. There was a Track and Field game where you just had to move the joystick Left Right Left Right to run the 100M dash. I made a custom joystick adapter using the little spring connectors from a Radio Shack project board so I could wire any switch into the joy stick port. I finally set the “world record” using the Fan On/Fan Automatic switch from an old thermostat. Very clean connection on a very short lever.

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                                          I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box. When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws. Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that. Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.

                                          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                          Wizard of Sleeves
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                                          Well, there was that abacus that I had to bind together with twine made from flax, because the granite beads were too heavy for the sabre-tooth ivory frame. But then I am bit older than a lot of you.

                                          Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.

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