Why is setting up an SMTP server on a Linux distro so...in(s)ane?
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Marc Clifton wrote:
I don't understand why it has to be so complicated
Because, if you don't know how to do it from the innate elegance of all things that are Linux, none of the other Linux afficionado's want you to find out. They're worried that your voice might drown theirs out in their worship at Linus' feet.
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I've perused about 6 different packages (I don't want a UI package) and the web pages describing the setup process is like reading a magical scroll on burnt parchment and hoping the incantation doesn't summon a demon. I mean seriously. It should be: sudo apt install smtp-server 1. Answer a question about the hostname (or figure it out from the /etc/hostname file) 2. Answer a question about the default inbound and "from" email or default to "admin" 3. Firewall should be automatically configured. Get back: 1. the server name (should be the same as the hostname!) 2. the ports (should be standard!) 3. the folder where inbound emails are put into 4. a list of useful CL options to change some basic config stuff. But noooooo. Edit this, mangle that, sudo this and this and that and thar, pray here, prick finger for blood there, curse over yonder... It's insane, it's inane, I don't understand why it has to be so complicated.
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ASP.NET Core Web API: Plugin Controllers and ServicesAin't no picnic regardless of OS. I have done a couple of Exchange servers and managed a couple of domain email servers on O365. IIRC, powershell took a bunch of typing. Microsoft makes you jump through hoops to use your own domain name. Best done for security reasons. Exchange can be fussy about ports, requiring receive connectors in our case. Like anything else, once you know how to do it, it is intuitive. Here is how to do it on a Pi: How to Install an Email Server on your Raspberry Pi? – RaspberryTips[^] Interesting how folks here like to belittle Linux, I think the majority of Internet servers run Linux. I think Googles stuff, like Android is based from Linux. Desktop? Never close until Chromebooks showed up. I imagine most of you haters prefer running Windows on your smartphones. :cool:
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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I've perused about 6 different packages (I don't want a UI package) and the web pages describing the setup process is like reading a magical scroll on burnt parchment and hoping the incantation doesn't summon a demon. I mean seriously. It should be: sudo apt install smtp-server 1. Answer a question about the hostname (or figure it out from the /etc/hostname file) 2. Answer a question about the default inbound and "from" email or default to "admin" 3. Firewall should be automatically configured. Get back: 1. the server name (should be the same as the hostname!) 2. the ports (should be standard!) 3. the folder where inbound emails are put into 4. a list of useful CL options to change some basic config stuff. But noooooo. Edit this, mangle that, sudo this and this and that and thar, pray here, prick finger for blood there, curse over yonder... It's insane, it's inane, I don't understand why it has to be so complicated.
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I've perused about 6 different packages (I don't want a UI package) and the web pages describing the setup process is like reading a magical scroll on burnt parchment and hoping the incantation doesn't summon a demon. I mean seriously. It should be: sudo apt install smtp-server 1. Answer a question about the hostname (or figure it out from the /etc/hostname file) 2. Answer a question about the default inbound and "from" email or default to "admin" 3. Firewall should be automatically configured. Get back: 1. the server name (should be the same as the hostname!) 2. the ports (should be standard!) 3. the folder where inbound emails are put into 4. a list of useful CL options to change some basic config stuff. But noooooo. Edit this, mangle that, sudo this and this and that and thar, pray here, prick finger for blood there, curse over yonder... It's insane, it's inane, I don't understand why it has to be so complicated.
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And this is precisely why Linux will never take over the desktop.
Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
Dave KreskowiakThis is one of the reasons. The second one, shared by Mr Torvalds himeslf, is that software packaging in Linux distributions is "a major *fing pain in the a*" [quote]. IMHO Third one is that most software is unbelievably forked up: instead of a limited choice of workable software you have a vast selection of... half complete solutions in search of problems.
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Getting .NET 6 installed wasn't too hard, except I discovered that flavors of Ubuntu > 18.04 don't work. Debian worked fine. Got a bunch of cool stuff working (article on Tuesday) but this mail server setup is nutso. I guess I will have to try following the DigitalOcean instructions to the letter.
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ASP.NET Core Web API: Plugin Controllers and ServicesMarc Clifton wrote:
Getting .NET 6 installed wasn't too hard, except I discovered that flavors of Ubuntu > 18.04 don't work. Debian worked fine.
Which is weird (and annoying), because Ubuntu is based on Debian...
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I've perused about 6 different packages (I don't want a UI package) and the web pages describing the setup process is like reading a magical scroll on burnt parchment and hoping the incantation doesn't summon a demon. I mean seriously. It should be: sudo apt install smtp-server 1. Answer a question about the hostname (or figure it out from the /etc/hostname file) 2. Answer a question about the default inbound and "from" email or default to "admin" 3. Firewall should be automatically configured. Get back: 1. the server name (should be the same as the hostname!) 2. the ports (should be standard!) 3. the folder where inbound emails are put into 4. a list of useful CL options to change some basic config stuff. But noooooo. Edit this, mangle that, sudo this and this and that and thar, pray here, prick finger for blood there, curse over yonder... It's insane, it's inane, I don't understand why it has to be so complicated.
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ASP.NET Core Web API: Plugin Controllers and ServicesBecause 99.99% of people who can install Linux and putz around on the command line should not be allowed to run a mail server. Making the learning curve to setting one up a thousand mile high completely smooth cliff face protected by a 100 mile deep minefield and top mounted flame throwers sheathing the entire cliff face in fire is a feature intended to limit the supply of misconfigured mail servers available for spammers to use and to limit the accumulation of IPv4s on never delete spammer blacklists.
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I've perused about 6 different packages (I don't want a UI package) and the web pages describing the setup process is like reading a magical scroll on burnt parchment and hoping the incantation doesn't summon a demon. I mean seriously. It should be: sudo apt install smtp-server 1. Answer a question about the hostname (or figure it out from the /etc/hostname file) 2. Answer a question about the default inbound and "from" email or default to "admin" 3. Firewall should be automatically configured. Get back: 1. the server name (should be the same as the hostname!) 2. the ports (should be standard!) 3. the folder where inbound emails are put into 4. a list of useful CL options to change some basic config stuff. But noooooo. Edit this, mangle that, sudo this and this and that and thar, pray here, prick finger for blood there, curse over yonder... It's insane, it's inane, I don't understand why it has to be so complicated.
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I've perused about 6 different packages (I don't want a UI package) and the web pages describing the setup process is like reading a magical scroll on burnt parchment and hoping the incantation doesn't summon a demon. I mean seriously. It should be: sudo apt install smtp-server 1. Answer a question about the hostname (or figure it out from the /etc/hostname file) 2. Answer a question about the default inbound and "from" email or default to "admin" 3. Firewall should be automatically configured. Get back: 1. the server name (should be the same as the hostname!) 2. the ports (should be standard!) 3. the folder where inbound emails are put into 4. a list of useful CL options to change some basic config stuff. But noooooo. Edit this, mangle that, sudo this and this and that and thar, pray here, prick finger for blood there, curse over yonder... It's insane, it's inane, I don't understand why it has to be so complicated.
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ASP.NET Core Web API: Plugin Controllers and ServicesBecause it's "free"?
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DrWalter PE wrote:
It's that way, so you can claim to be a guru once you get it working.
I don't see the problem? Raspberri Pi's don't work on VB6.
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