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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    I'm afraid it's the New World Order. On the way to the altar of riches the path must be smooth, without risk or adventure. I miss the days of leading an R&D group, given time and resources to create.

    The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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    Marc Clifton
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    Mike Hankey wrote:

    I miss the days of leading an R&D group, given time and resources to create.

    Yes! Hmm, maybe I should change my resume to say I only want to work for R&D, and see what that results in.

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Mike Hankey wrote:

      I miss the days of leading an R&D group, given time and resources to create.

      Yes! Hmm, maybe I should change my resume to say I only want to work for R&D, and see what that results in.

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      Mike Hankey
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      You might check with Mattel? :)

      The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Mike Hankey wrote:

        I miss the days of leading an R&D group, given time and resources to create.

        Yes! Hmm, maybe I should change my resume to say I only want to work for R&D, and see what that results in.

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        Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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        Slacker007
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        You live in Upstate New York, yes? You may want to see if GE or Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory (both have R&D divisions) are hiring.

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          You live in Upstate New York, yes? You may want to see if GE or Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory (both have R&D divisions) are hiring.

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          Hah, thanks for the lead!

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          • M Marc Clifton

            I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

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            honey the codewitch
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            Your post reminds me of just how fucking lucky I am to be doing the work I'm doing. I hope you find some similar fortune.

            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

              Latest Article:
              Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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              I could've written that post. You've explained your current situation (workplace) the same way I would explain mine. It's exactly how I feel. Also, you have the same view of other jobs. I'm guessing you've been in the game for a while like me -- 30 Years of IT work this year for me. so much experience & understanding of what it could be, but no real workplaces that want to do that -- and, then add-on the fact that so many workplaces are honestly toxic. X| It makes you question, why move to the devil you don't know when you're used to the one you do know -- even though the current place is underachieving and boring?

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              • M Marc Clifton

                I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                Latest Article:
                Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                it looks like a change is unavoidable...

                diligent hands rule....

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  I miss the days of leading an R&D group, given time and resources to create.

                  Yes! Hmm, maybe I should change my resume to say I only want to work for R&D, and see what that results in.

                  Latest Article:
                  Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  I only want to work for R&D

                  Judging from your post, D&D sounds more like it! :laugh: Speaking of which, they're looking for software engineers: Careers | Wizards of the Coast[^] ;)

                  Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                    Latest Article:
                    Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                    We are a dying breed, Marc. All of the software has been written, and the software development world has slid into maintenance mode...

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      I only want to work for R&D

                      Judging from your post, D&D sounds more like it! :laugh: Speaking of which, they're looking for software engineers: Careers | Wizards of the Coast[^] ;)

                      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                      charlieg
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                      +5 points :)

                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                        Latest Article:
                        Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                        agolddog
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                        I was just talking with someone who's project has ended. He expects to be let go at some point in the future, but for now is on an "Internal Research and Development" project. I expressed pleasant surprise that there is management forward-looking enough to support these kinds of projects.

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                          Latest Article:
                          Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                          rnbergren
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                          It does indeed suck. I was in the hunt about 2 years ago at the start of Covid. The only real good thing I have found is the number of companies that no longer care where your butt is located. But otherwise as JSOP said. We are a dying breed and alot of what they want us for is maintenance mode for old apps. It pays pretty well. But it is boring. I had one job consulting in the middle with a guaranteed base each week for 40 hours and I could do the job in 10. Boring but nice in someways. The dog got lots of walks.

                          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                            I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                            Latest Article:
                            Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                            SeattleC
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                            I resist the urge to believe our best years are behind us, but... * Ah, the thrill of being a high priest of computing, allowed to enter the machine room sanctum with its roaring fans and shaking disk drives, its black and blue cabinets of hardware, its blinky lights. Now a computer is just a featureless black slab on my desk, or worse yet a cloud of vapor(ware). * Ah, the pride of being treated like a professional, like the accountants and lawyers; the knowledge that your unique talents made you valuable. Now you are a highly paid galley slave, endlessly rowing. * Yes, the flow-state ecstasy of starting a project from a blank screen, turning a blinking cursor into a thousand lines of code. How painful nowadays to fiddle someone else's bland, banal code to squeeze in another feature just like the last thousand. * And the women, the geeky, interesting women. Remember when there were women writing software? I really miss women in a workplace where the air is a mist of testosterone.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                              Latest Article:
                              Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                              Derek Hunter
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                              If your job is so dull and you crave excitement why don't you quit your job and start your own start-up?

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                                Latest Article:
                                Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                                Yes, working at a startup was probably one of the most 'fun' jobs I've had. 12-14 hour days, 6-7 days a week and it was still fun. I was just unlucky enough to join the startup about a year before the big DotCom crash! If you can't find adventure, I'd recommend trying to find a job where you'll learn something new and different from what you know. I was luckily enough to find a job were I could learn a fair amount of DSP. Something I'd never have thought I'd really like, but did.

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                                  I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                                  Latest Article:
                                  Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                                  Can I hire you to hack JP Morgan Wealth Management ? On July 2021 they started sending me emails as of today we have had 20 exchanges with the executive office via phone and forwarded e-mails and one complaint to the New York BBB None of this has stopped them from continuing to send me e-mails. The best lame excuse was it takes 90 days to correct changes to our system My last exchange I explained I would show up in New York for a face to face NO REPLY as of today

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                                    I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

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                                    Bruce Patin
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                                    Get into BlockChain and NFT. Steal from the rich and ... (I forget the other part).

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                                      Get into BlockChain and NFT. Steal from the rich and ... (I forget the other part).

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                                      DRHuff
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                                      That other part is probably not important.

                                      If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        I have a job. I know the devil I work for, and it's not really bad, just dull, boring, broken promises, management that is interested in coin rather than dragon slaying adventures, and if there are adventures, one is given rusty swords, rotting armor, no share in the loot and leveling up is just not going to happen. So the usual. Looking at what's out there, it's pretty much the same dungeons, the same monsters, the same jarls and kings, the same materialistic gods that everyone prays to. I'm an anachronism. I miss the days of startup companies doing crazy stuff that are looking for crazy people like me. I want to work for/with someone that is sailing past "there be dragons here." I'm hopeless in what I want, and I'm hopeless in what I'll find.

                                        Latest Article:
                                        Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                                        decaffeinatedMonkey
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                                        You could work for the company I work for. There are dragons... Soft cuddly ones, but they are ferocious nonetheless. If your interested in dot-net 6 (C#), Angular, something called micro services, Azure, and one line requirement documents, drop me a message.

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                                          Yes, working at a startup was probably one of the most 'fun' jobs I've had. 12-14 hour days, 6-7 days a week and it was still fun. I was just unlucky enough to join the startup about a year before the big DotCom crash! If you can't find adventure, I'd recommend trying to find a job where you'll learn something new and different from what you know. I was luckily enough to find a job were I could learn a fair amount of DSP. Something I'd never have thought I'd really like, but did.

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                                          Alan Pengelly
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                                          I am probably the most irrelevant person here as I still use Visual FoxPro (but keep reading!) I am retired but had a problem with a local council department. I asked them some questions and then wrote a simple system (maybe 40 hours coding) to obviate their problems that "there was no way round" and gave them a demo on my ancient laptop. They were open mouthed at the result and are looking to see if they can somehow get a separate laptop to install it on as "they would never allow it on their network". It should save them hours of boring paperwork per week. SO I got some satisfaction from that, although I didn't do it for money, I might get a reduction in the bills for the junior football club I am treasurer for. Alan

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