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Is Windows 11 ready to be used?

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  • N Nick Polyak

    What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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    rtischer8277
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    The revamped Settings control is simply gorgeous. In light of its obvious ability to take ever-expanding setting complexity and not lose any level of computer user in the process, there is no doubt in my mind that the drop-down slide-off non-scalable menu control has no place in future GUIs. Are you listening Visual Studio?

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      This is all an "In my Opinion". Take it with a pinch of salt. I didn't like it. The new explorer context menu might look nice, but 95% of the options that I (as a developer) use are hidden behind the "show extras" link (or whatever it was called). This means that most of the time I use the file explorer, everything I do with it requires an extra click. It's incompatible with VMWare Workstation. I extensively use VMs on a day to day basis. The only way of getting it to work is to back off the number of cores to 1. All of my VMs use Chrome. Has anyone tried using Chrome on a single core? It's not pretty! The "fix" is to pay for an upgrade to VMWare. At this point, I rolled back to Windows 10, and I'm not intending to upgrade, until they fix at least those issues.

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      It's incompatible with VMWare Workstation

      Is it MS or is it really VMWare to blame? We couldn't use VMWare with or without HyperV enabled in Windows 10 for quite a while. So long in fact, that I started using HyperV and uninstalled VMWare, then you could disable it and run VMWare after some patches, but I needed HyperV for javascript development so it wasn't one or the other that I needed! Eventually it was fixed again, and I did reinstall, as I had to resume using VMWare occasionally for older release Siemens PLC development. It's not like Win 10 or Win 11 just poofed and surprised VMWare, they should have been working to get the issues resolved during the RC phases.

      The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.

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      • B BryanFazekas

        Paul Sanders (the other one) wrote:

        Other than that, it's fine. I do resent the fact that I had to buy (well, build) a new machine to run it though. Probably I could have snuck round that, but it didn't seem worth it. I don't want my primary development machine suddenly saying "shalln't" because MS have decided to pull the plug.

        Why did you switch to Win11? Was there a pressing need? When Win11 was released my desktop was 8 yo and my laptop 6 yo. Switching to Win11 was not an option, as I saw no point in buying new h/w to run an O/S that I didn't have a pressing need for. A few months back my desktop exhibited memory errors, and given the age, I replaced the MB, CPU, and RAM, and re-installed Win10. Once I replace the laptop (which may be sooner than I want) I'll consider Win11, depending on the state of Win11 at that time. At this point, Win11 seems like hassles without benefit, so it's very likely I'll stay on Win10 until that changes, or until Win10 goes out of support.

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        Paul Sanders the other one
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        Not really, no, but quite a few of my customers are switching over so I though I should be able to experience what they experience (I had it installed in a VM, but that's not the same as using it day in, day out). But you're right, you're not missing out on anything important. And if, like me, you have a pathological hatred of the Windows 10 start menu, there's always [Start10](https://www.stardock.com/products/start10/). Paul Sanders http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk

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        • 0 0x01AA

          So far pretty ok. Whether you like it or hate it... sooner or later you need to become familiar with it. Same was with 2k->xp->W7->W8->W10 :^)

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          Matt McGuire
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          Yes, but I know of a lot of people who skipped ME, Vista, W8. maybe a bunch of people will skip W11 and just wait for the next one. I wouldn't mind upgrading, but I loath the new Mac clone of a start menu. everything else seems pretty cool and useful.

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          • D dandy72

            I have it in a VM somewhere but haven't spent enough time making actual use of it to offer an honest opinion. But what I keep hearing is, if you're a power user, you will sooner or later come to hate the taskbar, which lacks a lot of basic features you simply took for granted on Win10. If that's of no concern to you...jump right ahead? Because every other comment I've read so far agrees with the others here, it's really still Win10 with a new paint job. YMMV.

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            MikeD 2
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            lol, single most annoying being the removal of the Task Manager option from the right click menu and outside of that right click on anything else and see Click here for every other option you liked using which we have now hidden another click away Sigh, sometimes progress just doesn't seem to be forwards

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            • N Nick Polyak

              What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

              Nick Polyak

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              David Sherwood
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              Is there something missing with Windows 10? I wouldn't upgrade if there isn't. Just wait until you have to by a new computer that comes with Windows 11.

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              • N Nick Polyak

                What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

                Nick Polyak

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                matblue25
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                I asked myself the same question the other day and was even ready to do a clean install of Win11 but decided it wasn't worth it. I have yet to hear anything compelling that would make we want to switch. To me, all of the changes are for "regular" users, not "power" users. I suspect I would just find it annoying. So I decided I won't switch until MS decides it's no longer a free upgrade. I realize I'll have to switch sometime but not till they make me. BTW - I figured I'd do a clean install rather than "upgrading" from Win10. Any opinions on that?

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                • D David Sherwood

                  Is there something missing with Windows 10? I wouldn't upgrade if there isn't. Just wait until you have to by a new computer that comes with Windows 11.

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                  Nick Polyak
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                  More mature WSL - it is important for me

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                  • N Nick Polyak

                    What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

                    Nick Polyak

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                    Les Stokes
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                    Seems ok, apart from issue with task bars on multiple screens. And an emails not being sent which appears to be fixed.

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                    • N Nick Polyak

                      What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

                      Nick Polyak

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                      KLPounds
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                      MS has link to free Win11 VM images so you can "try" win11 and current dev tools. Its Win11 Enterprise edition.. The trial images I believe are still available and activated for another couple weeks. The had extended the trial period to May. Actually had a project that used some legacy OLE functionality that required the old Paint which we found was wacky 10 to 11 upgrades and didnt work at all with clean install of 11. That trial image saved us a ton of time testing as well as establish that our dev team was not ready to make the switch just yet.

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                        MS has link to free Win11 VM images so you can "try" win11 and current dev tools. Its Win11 Enterprise edition.. The trial images I believe are still available and activated for another couple weeks. The had extended the trial period to May. Actually had a project that used some legacy OLE functionality that required the old Paint which we found was wacky 10 to 11 upgrades and didnt work at all with clean install of 11. That trial image saved us a ton of time testing as well as establish that our dev team was not ready to make the switch just yet.

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                        FiresChild
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                        Since I'm on SSI, not by me unless someone wants to donate a new PC that 11 will work on. ( presently a Dell XPS 8900... mobo only handles up to i7-6700 cpu ) :sigh:

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