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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    I think I used SCART(?) cables for that back in the day. Had to move my complete desktop for that to happen, but I could transfer files that didn't fit on a 1.44 MB floppy :D Later I'd burn the files on a (re)writable CD, such luxury! Why would you even want to return to such brutal methods in the age of fast internet? :~

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    BryanFazekas
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    Sander Rossel wrote:

    Why would you even want to return to such brutal methods in the age of fast internet?

    I have files that I do not want on the internet, so using it as an intermediary is not acceptable. OTOH, I pay for the MS 365 subscription and have the files that don't matter in OneDrive, so they are accessible on my desktop, laptop, and phone.

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      I need to frequently transfer video files, about 30 MB in size between my two machines, a Win10 laptop and a MacBook Air. I tried Bluetooth and it takes a long time, more than 10 minutes. Whereas, uploading the file to Google Drive and downloading from there onto the other machine, took an overall of under a minute. Is there a direct wire-based transfer possible between these two machines, which does not need the Internet? Ideal would be USB to USB cable transfer, but does that even exist? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

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      danbergen
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      Have you tried AirDroid? AirDroid Personal's Nearby feature lets you effortlessly share files with friends and families even without the internet.

      Dan

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      • A Amarnath S

        I need to frequently transfer video files, about 30 MB in size between my two machines, a Win10 laptop and a MacBook Air. I tried Bluetooth and it takes a long time, more than 10 minutes. Whereas, uploading the file to Google Drive and downloading from there onto the other machine, took an overall of under a minute. Is there a direct wire-based transfer possible between these two machines, which does not need the Internet? Ideal would be USB to USB cable transfer, but does that even exist? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

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        darktrick544
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        Lap Link (that takes me back)

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        • A Amarnath S

          I need to frequently transfer video files, about 30 MB in size between my two machines, a Win10 laptop and a MacBook Air. I tried Bluetooth and it takes a long time, more than 10 minutes. Whereas, uploading the file to Google Drive and downloading from there onto the other machine, took an overall of under a minute. Is there a direct wire-based transfer possible between these two machines, which does not need the Internet? Ideal would be USB to USB cable transfer, but does that even exist? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

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          User 3866237
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          How about setting up a FTP-Server either on the Windows or Mac machine in your local network, i.e FileZilla :)

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          • A Amarnath S

            Yes, I find that uploading to Google Drive from one machine and downloading onto the other from there to be the simplest option, and fast one too. Only drawback is that my ISP has a data limit of 1000 GB per month, after which things become really slow.

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            Cpichols
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            Quick! Do it at the end of the month.

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            • A Amarnath S

              I need to frequently transfer video files, about 30 MB in size between my two machines, a Win10 laptop and a MacBook Air. I tried Bluetooth and it takes a long time, more than 10 minutes. Whereas, uploading the file to Google Drive and downloading from there onto the other machine, took an overall of under a minute. Is there a direct wire-based transfer possible between these two machines, which does not need the Internet? Ideal would be USB to USB cable transfer, but does that even exist? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

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              rtischer8277
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              File transfer using Skype has always worked for me. Just don't make the mistake of centralizing your PCs under a Microsoft account. They will push you in that direction at every opportunity. Create an email account for each of your PCs and use that email to sign in to each of your PCs. No need for an A to B wire. My 12 PCs are mostly ethernet-connected desktops but some are Wifi-connected. Skype used to be P2P, but after Microsoft took over your files will still have to go through their server farm. They didn't used to. But consider this: Skype to Skype transfer of files, any size, anywhere, is still free. And that's probably why they are trying to extinguish Skype with their Teams product. But for now, Skype is certainly a proven technology and is to be preferred over some obscure A B connector technology. Finally, Microsoft PC file sharing ACL is a nightmare. Always has been. Always will be.

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              • A Amarnath S

                Not an RJ45 connector on the MacBook Air. Not sure where to find its network cable.

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                Member_14192382
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                Perhaps a USB/RJ45 adapter?

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                • A Amarnath S

                  I need to frequently transfer video files, about 30 MB in size between my two machines, a Win10 laptop and a MacBook Air. I tried Bluetooth and it takes a long time, more than 10 minutes. Whereas, uploading the file to Google Drive and downloading from there onto the other machine, took an overall of under a minute. Is there a direct wire-based transfer possible between these two machines, which does not need the Internet? Ideal would be USB to USB cable transfer, but does that even exist? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

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                  Ralf Quint
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                  Just use a network cable between them. Works for me just fine, at Gigabit speeds (well, almost, depending on the machine)...

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Yeah, it wasn't SCART, can't remember what it was called... Or maybe it wasn't the cable, but the program or protocol? I can't stand not knowing this :sigh:

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                    JP Reyes
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                    I think you meant a SCSI cable (it was the USB of its day on desktops and high end workstations)

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      I think I used SCART(?) cables for that back in the day. Had to move my complete desktop for that to happen, but I could transfer files that didn't fit on a 1.44 MB floppy :D Later I'd burn the files on a (re)writable CD, such luxury! Why would you even want to return to such brutal methods in the age of fast internet? :~

                      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                      Member 4650365
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                      Maybe LapLink, using a serial cable or special cable to link two printer ports?

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        I think I used SCART(?) cables for that back in the day. Had to move my complete desktop for that to happen, but I could transfer files that didn't fit on a 1.44 MB floppy :D Later I'd burn the files on a (re)writable CD, such luxury! Why would you even want to return to such brutal methods in the age of fast internet? :~

                        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                        Richard Jones
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                        I used a product called LapLink long ago, with special blue or yellow cables, depending on serial or parallel.

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                        • A Amarnath S

                          I need to frequently transfer video files, about 30 MB in size between my two machines, a Win10 laptop and a MacBook Air. I tried Bluetooth and it takes a long time, more than 10 minutes. Whereas, uploading the file to Google Drive and downloading from there onto the other machine, took an overall of under a minute. Is there a direct wire-based transfer possible between these two machines, which does not need the Internet? Ideal would be USB to USB cable transfer, but does that even exist? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

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                          Matthew Barnett
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                          What I usually do is write something in Python for both machines that transfers via a socket. That's how I transfer files between my Windows PC and a Raspberry Pi.

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                          • A Amarnath S

                            Yes, I find that uploading to Google Drive from one machine and downloading onto the other from there to be the simplest option, and fast one too. Only drawback is that my ISP has a data limit of 1000 GB per month, after which things become really slow.

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                            JohnDG52
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                            What's the dropbox limit?

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              I don't know how old I appear, but I'm currently 34. I've been using computers since I was seven or eight years old, which is quite early for someone my age :D I think I was the only one at my school who had his own computer. All the other kids had a shared family computer if they had a computer at all. Good old days when my uncle got me Warez(?) CDs, illegally downloaded games with movies taken out so more games would fit on a single CD :D I remember playing one of those games later and finding out it had cutscenes :omg: That's how I discovered Age of Empires! Also had lots of demo CDs back then, they came with my monthly PC Zone Benelux subscription (they went bankrupt some 15 years ago, I think). People download their own illegal stuff now, and companies don't do demos anymore. Those were the days :D

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                              sasadler
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                              You're a baby, built my first computer (actually wire wrapped most of the boards) back in 78.

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                              • A Amarnath S

                                I need to frequently transfer video files, about 30 MB in size between my two machines, a Win10 laptop and a MacBook Air. I tried Bluetooth and it takes a long time, more than 10 minutes. Whereas, uploading the file to Google Drive and downloading from there onto the other machine, took an overall of under a minute. Is there a direct wire-based transfer possible between these two machines, which does not need the Internet? Ideal would be USB to USB cable transfer, but does that even exist? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

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                                ScottTheFortranHacker
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                                In all the discussion, nobody mentioned that you can do this, found on YouTube, by BarTech TV: How to share a Mac Drive with a Windows 10 PC Seems like a good solution if you need to do it repeatedly, and files stay local.

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                                  I think you meant a SCSI cable (it was the USB of its day on desktops and high end workstations)

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                                  trønderen
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                                  I was a SCSI fan for several years, trusting it to become The standard for disks, printers, scanners, ... SCSI had professional qualities that deserved a better fate. But when I had to buy an adapter cable for my eight SCSI plug 'standard', and the salesman nodded, 'But there are fourteen different ones in use, I called it quit. SCSI did have one big disadvantage, though: It was parallel standard, with lots of wires. So cables were thick and stiff, most plug alternatives were large. I have been fearing that USB would suffer the same fate with a bewilderment of plugs - A, B, Mini, Micro, A 3.x, Micro 3.x, B 3.x, and then C ... There are even Mini A and Micro A that I've never seen in real life. That makes 10 different ones ... After my experiences with SCSIO, I was about to ditch USB completely, and when the first alternative to or variation of USB C comes, I will. For now, it looks as if USB C may be turn out as a real Standard plug that will live for at least a few more years without 'improvements'. I am in the process of mentally accepting it; it is not quite there yet. (I am using it, but still with some reluctance and distrust.) There is a good programming (and debugging!) rule, saying that 'Constants ain't! Variables won't!' I am tempted to add: 'Standards ain't!'

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    I don't know how old I appear, but I'm currently 34. I've been using computers since I was seven or eight years old, which is quite early for someone my age :D I think I was the only one at my school who had his own computer. All the other kids had a shared family computer if they had a computer at all. Good old days when my uncle got me Warez(?) CDs, illegally downloaded games with movies taken out so more games would fit on a single CD :D I remember playing one of those games later and finding out it had cutscenes :omg: That's how I discovered Age of Empires! Also had lots of demo CDs back then, they came with my monthly PC Zone Benelux subscription (they went bankrupt some 15 years ago, I think). People download their own illegal stuff now, and companies don't do demos anymore. Those were the days :D

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                                    trønderen
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                                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                                    I've been using computers since I was seven or eight years old, which is quite early for someone my age :-D

                                    Correction: You were knowingly using computers from you were seven or eight year old. At that time, even two year olds were using computers regularly, but they didn't think of them as such. Embedded computers were all over the place, even in those days. At the time when you were seven or eight, I was regularly in contact with (and made a few tools for) visually handicapped kids. When their classmates learned to write A, B, C with a pencil, they learned to write A, B, C on their keyboard, using WordPerfect. The first graders never related to it as 'using a computer', but as a writing tool. They also used 'bulletin boards' (using modems, at 300 bps) to communicate in writing with their friends, not thinking of it as using the internet - which it technically wasn't, but when internet gradually took over, they hardly noticed the technology change. They had known the functionality for years.

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                                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                                      Why would you even want to return to such brutal methods in the age of fast internet?

                                      I have files that I do not want on the internet, so using it as an intermediary is not acceptable. OTOH, I pay for the MS 365 subscription and have the files that don't matter in OneDrive, so they are accessible on my desktop, laptop, and phone.

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                                      trønderen
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                                      To me, that argument makes perfect sense.

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                                      • M Member 4650365

                                        Maybe LapLink, using a serial cable or special cable to link two printer ports?

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                                        trønderen
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                                        When I was teaching at a Tech. College in the early 1990s, one of the student exercises were implementing a simplified Kermit over a serial line between two PCs. The first part of the exercise was soldering a null modem cable. This was commonly known among the lecturers as The exercise that the students would remember, and come back to the lecturers to thank them for providing, many years later. The students learned a lot about communication, synchronization, debugging of distributed systems, ... Even though the setup was very simple, all the elements were there. At that time, I also learned that the oil company of the Norwegian state (it has been renamed a few times; I think it was named Statoil back then) actually used Kermit for transferring data from their 'technical', VAX based systems, to their 'administrative', IBM mainframe based systems holding their huge databases. They had made several unsuccessful attempts at finding some protocol implementation for direct VAX to IBM communication, but both companies were famous for their 'Protocol xyz with a twist' policy, using that 'twist' as a wrench to force their customers into obedience. But both were willing to pass files to/from PCs (of their own DOS variants, of course), and both PCs were capable of running Kermit over a null modem cable. When I visited them with a group of students, they proudly showed us the two PCs, side by side on a small desk, running as "modems" between this huge IBM mainframe and this powerful top-range VAX, transferring data at 19.2 kbps 24/7. Bottom line: Kermit may be an alternative. It has been used for such purposes by billion-dollar companies.

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                                        • E englebart

                                          Make sure to use the parallel port adapter and not the serial port adapter! Guaranteed 8 times faster.

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                                          trønderen
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                                          Which computer has a parallel adapter nowadays? Several years ago, I dug up some old serial port equipment, for plugging it into my computer. I searched it all over, but couldn't find the serial port. The computer was a couple years old. I had owned it for more than two years without noticing that it didn't have an RS232 serial port! (Later, I discovered that the mainboard actually had a COM1 header, so I could have plugged in an old bracket with a 9-pin RS232 socket from one of my old, discarded PCs, but at that time I had found alternate solutions.) To find a PC with a parallel port, I will have to visit the museum part of my old PC collection. They never ran anything but DOS.

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