P4 FSB 800 Mhz... Which mobo/RAM?
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For the hw gurus outthere... I'm in an upgrade frenzy lately and I'm building 3 machines with P4 3Ghz/FSB800Mhz/1GB RAM DDR-400. I'm between two motherboards, ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and Intel 875PBZ. The ASUS costs about 50% more, here. Do you have any good/bad/ugly experiences with any of them? Hardware salesmen mentioned good things about ABIT and Giga mobos, too, but I don't know if they are reliable, and I'm a fan of ASUS for a long time. And about the memory, everyone seems to say that Corsair is "da memory". Is that true? How reliable is it, anyway? Another doubt: which one would you choose, for the same price: A Serial-ATA 36GB disk, 10,000 RPM or a 120Gb 7200 RPM ATA100. I love free disk space, but a my doubt is: wouldn't a 36Gb disk running at 10,000 RPM be slower than a 120Gb 7200 RPM one? I mean, the 10000 RPM one will read more tracks per minute, but the 7200 one will read larger tracks, meaning more data per minute, and that's what I'm interested on. The use of those machines are for development, mainly VS.NET development (large solution, with about 110 projects). I've checked Tom's Hardware Guide, and found nothing conclusive yet... ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
You don't need a mobo or ram. Haven't you heard Intel has decided to completely dominate the market and has integrated both into the newest P4s :) Matt Newman "Two things have come out of Berkley, Unix and Acid, we do not belive this to be a coincidence"
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For the hw gurus outthere... I'm in an upgrade frenzy lately and I'm building 3 machines with P4 3Ghz/FSB800Mhz/1GB RAM DDR-400. I'm between two motherboards, ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and Intel 875PBZ. The ASUS costs about 50% more, here. Do you have any good/bad/ugly experiences with any of them? Hardware salesmen mentioned good things about ABIT and Giga mobos, too, but I don't know if they are reliable, and I'm a fan of ASUS for a long time. And about the memory, everyone seems to say that Corsair is "da memory". Is that true? How reliable is it, anyway? Another doubt: which one would you choose, for the same price: A Serial-ATA 36GB disk, 10,000 RPM or a 120Gb 7200 RPM ATA100. I love free disk space, but a my doubt is: wouldn't a 36Gb disk running at 10,000 RPM be slower than a 120Gb 7200 RPM one? I mean, the 10000 RPM one will read more tracks per minute, but the 7200 one will read larger tracks, meaning more data per minute, and that's what I'm interested on. The use of those machines are for development, mainly VS.NET development (large solution, with about 110 projects). I've checked Tom's Hardware Guide, and found nothing conclusive yet... ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
I had an Asus P2B (the choice for Celeron 300A overclockers!), in fact it's still in use as my test box. Not a single problem with it. I also use an Abit BP6. Not so happy with that one. Can't overclock it as much (the IDE bus gets unstable at anything over 75MHz), finding BIOS flashes on their site is a chore, and none of the BIOS versions has ever gotten power management working under 2K/XP. --Mike-- "So where does that leave us? Well, it leaves us right back where we started, only more confused than before." -- Matt Gullett Ericahist | Homepage | RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber
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For the hw gurus outthere... I'm in an upgrade frenzy lately and I'm building 3 machines with P4 3Ghz/FSB800Mhz/1GB RAM DDR-400. I'm between two motherboards, ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and Intel 875PBZ. The ASUS costs about 50% more, here. Do you have any good/bad/ugly experiences with any of them? Hardware salesmen mentioned good things about ABIT and Giga mobos, too, but I don't know if they are reliable, and I'm a fan of ASUS for a long time. And about the memory, everyone seems to say that Corsair is "da memory". Is that true? How reliable is it, anyway? Another doubt: which one would you choose, for the same price: A Serial-ATA 36GB disk, 10,000 RPM or a 120Gb 7200 RPM ATA100. I love free disk space, but a my doubt is: wouldn't a 36Gb disk running at 10,000 RPM be slower than a 120Gb 7200 RPM one? I mean, the 10000 RPM one will read more tracks per minute, but the 7200 one will read larger tracks, meaning more data per minute, and that's what I'm interested on. The use of those machines are for development, mainly VS.NET development (large solution, with about 110 projects). I've checked Tom's Hardware Guide, and found nothing conclusive yet... ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
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I had an Asus P2B (the choice for Celeron 300A overclockers!), in fact it's still in use as my test box. Not a single problem with it. I also use an Abit BP6. Not so happy with that one. Can't overclock it as much (the IDE bus gets unstable at anything over 75MHz), finding BIOS flashes on their site is a chore, and none of the BIOS versions has ever gotten power management working under 2K/XP. --Mike-- "So where does that leave us? Well, it leaves us right back where we started, only more confused than before." -- Matt Gullett Ericahist | Homepage | RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber
Michael Dunn wrote: finding BIOS flashes on their site is a chore Well, it's hard to find the BIOS upgrade on ASUS, too. When the site is not down :) Michael Dunn wrote: and none of the BIOS versions has ever gotten power management working under 2K/XP. X| I use APM a lot. Thank for the ref. ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
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For the hw gurus outthere... I'm in an upgrade frenzy lately and I'm building 3 machines with P4 3Ghz/FSB800Mhz/1GB RAM DDR-400. I'm between two motherboards, ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and Intel 875PBZ. The ASUS costs about 50% more, here. Do you have any good/bad/ugly experiences with any of them? Hardware salesmen mentioned good things about ABIT and Giga mobos, too, but I don't know if they are reliable, and I'm a fan of ASUS for a long time. And about the memory, everyone seems to say that Corsair is "da memory". Is that true? How reliable is it, anyway? Another doubt: which one would you choose, for the same price: A Serial-ATA 36GB disk, 10,000 RPM or a 120Gb 7200 RPM ATA100. I love free disk space, but a my doubt is: wouldn't a 36Gb disk running at 10,000 RPM be slower than a 120Gb 7200 RPM one? I mean, the 10000 RPM one will read more tracks per minute, but the 7200 one will read larger tracks, meaning more data per minute, and that's what I'm interested on. The use of those machines are for development, mainly VS.NET development (large solution, with about 110 projects). I've checked Tom's Hardware Guide, and found nothing conclusive yet... ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
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For the hw gurus outthere... I'm in an upgrade frenzy lately and I'm building 3 machines with P4 3Ghz/FSB800Mhz/1GB RAM DDR-400. I'm between two motherboards, ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and Intel 875PBZ. The ASUS costs about 50% more, here. Do you have any good/bad/ugly experiences with any of them? Hardware salesmen mentioned good things about ABIT and Giga mobos, too, but I don't know if they are reliable, and I'm a fan of ASUS for a long time. And about the memory, everyone seems to say that Corsair is "da memory". Is that true? How reliable is it, anyway? Another doubt: which one would you choose, for the same price: A Serial-ATA 36GB disk, 10,000 RPM or a 120Gb 7200 RPM ATA100. I love free disk space, but a my doubt is: wouldn't a 36Gb disk running at 10,000 RPM be slower than a 120Gb 7200 RPM one? I mean, the 10000 RPM one will read more tracks per minute, but the 7200 one will read larger tracks, meaning more data per minute, and that's what I'm interested on. The use of those machines are for development, mainly VS.NET development (large solution, with about 110 projects). I've checked Tom's Hardware Guide, and found nothing conclusive yet... ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
All you need to know about disk performance: http://www.storagereview.com[^] Corsair is good ram, about the same quality as Kingston... I don't like Asus boards any more, a few years ago they were the best, bit in the last couple of years they have become too unstable for business use. Of course, if you are a hardcore overclocker X| you probably love Asus because you can change everything. I just want a stable board and dont care about overclocking, so I would go for the Intel board ;) (Or a Tyan, they are the best :cool:) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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For the hw gurus outthere... I'm in an upgrade frenzy lately and I'm building 3 machines with P4 3Ghz/FSB800Mhz/1GB RAM DDR-400. I'm between two motherboards, ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and Intel 875PBZ. The ASUS costs about 50% more, here. Do you have any good/bad/ugly experiences with any of them? Hardware salesmen mentioned good things about ABIT and Giga mobos, too, but I don't know if they are reliable, and I'm a fan of ASUS for a long time. And about the memory, everyone seems to say that Corsair is "da memory". Is that true? How reliable is it, anyway? Another doubt: which one would you choose, for the same price: A Serial-ATA 36GB disk, 10,000 RPM or a 120Gb 7200 RPM ATA100. I love free disk space, but a my doubt is: wouldn't a 36Gb disk running at 10,000 RPM be slower than a 120Gb 7200 RPM one? I mean, the 10000 RPM one will read more tracks per minute, but the 7200 one will read larger tracks, meaning more data per minute, and that's what I'm interested on. The use of those machines are for development, mainly VS.NET development (large solution, with about 110 projects). I've checked Tom's Hardware Guide, and found nothing conclusive yet... ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
I've used all three brands, more Asus then the others and no problems to mention. Serial ATA is still pretty new so it looks like there isn't a lot of competition there yet. The 120GB will probably have the highest sustained data transfer rate. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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All you need to know about disk performance: http://www.storagereview.com[^] Corsair is good ram, about the same quality as Kingston... I don't like Asus boards any more, a few years ago they were the best, bit in the last couple of years they have become too unstable for business use. Of course, if you are a hardcore overclocker X| you probably love Asus because you can change everything. I just want a stable board and dont care about overclocking, so I would go for the Intel board ;) (Or a Tyan, they are the best :cool:) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: I don't like Asus boards any more, a few years ago they were the best, bit in the last couple of years they have become too unstable for business use. Of course, if you are a hardcore overclocker you probably love Asus because you can change everything. I just want a stable board and dont care about overclocking, so I would go for the Intel board (Or a Tyan, they are the best :cool I'm not an overclocker. I never succeeded at overclocking more than 1% or 2%, so I always leave on the recommended clock and bus speeds. I do tune the machine, but always on the "safe" values. As you said, they're machines for business use, and I probably will go for the Intel board, since it's the cheapest one. As I'm buying 3 machines, I almost can build a 4th one (1Ghz) only with the savings on the mobos :omg: ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
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I've used all three brands, more Asus then the others and no problems to mention. Serial ATA is still pretty new so it looks like there isn't a lot of competition there yet. The 120GB will probably have the highest sustained data transfer rate. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: The 120GB will probably have the highest sustained data transfer rate. Nope ;) Look at storeagereview.com - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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For the hw gurus outthere... I'm in an upgrade frenzy lately and I'm building 3 machines with P4 3Ghz/FSB800Mhz/1GB RAM DDR-400. I'm between two motherboards, ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and Intel 875PBZ. The ASUS costs about 50% more, here. Do you have any good/bad/ugly experiences with any of them? Hardware salesmen mentioned good things about ABIT and Giga mobos, too, but I don't know if they are reliable, and I'm a fan of ASUS for a long time. And about the memory, everyone seems to say that Corsair is "da memory". Is that true? How reliable is it, anyway? Another doubt: which one would you choose, for the same price: A Serial-ATA 36GB disk, 10,000 RPM or a 120Gb 7200 RPM ATA100. I love free disk space, but a my doubt is: wouldn't a 36Gb disk running at 10,000 RPM be slower than a 120Gb 7200 RPM one? I mean, the 10000 RPM one will read more tracks per minute, but the 7200 one will read larger tracks, meaning more data per minute, and that's what I'm interested on. The use of those machines are for development, mainly VS.NET development (large solution, with about 110 projects). I've checked Tom's Hardware Guide, and found nothing conclusive yet... ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
I bought the P4C800 Deluxe and never got it working right. I tried 4 different sets of ram ranging from 266-400 mhz and none worked. I ended up trashing the board (hated to do it) and bought the MSI and have been perfectly happy every since. I was an ASUS fan up until then. Jody
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I had an Asus P2B (the choice for Celeron 300A overclockers!), in fact it's still in use as my test box. Not a single problem with it. I also use an Abit BP6. Not so happy with that one. Can't overclock it as much (the IDE bus gets unstable at anything over 75MHz), finding BIOS flashes on their site is a chore, and none of the BIOS versions has ever gotten power management working under 2K/XP. --Mike-- "So where does that leave us? Well, it leaves us right back where we started, only more confused than before." -- Matt Gullett Ericahist | Homepage | RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber
Michael Dunn wrote: the choice for Celeron 300A overclockers! I thought a graphite pencil was the Celeron overclockers choice :confused: ;) Matt Newman "Two things have come out of Berkley, Unix and Acid, we do not belive this to be a coincidence"
Linux sucks twice as fast and 10 times more reliably, and since you have the source, it's your fault. -Ca1v1n Post best viewed with lynx -
For the hw gurus outthere... I'm in an upgrade frenzy lately and I'm building 3 machines with P4 3Ghz/FSB800Mhz/1GB RAM DDR-400. I'm between two motherboards, ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and Intel 875PBZ. The ASUS costs about 50% more, here. Do you have any good/bad/ugly experiences with any of them? Hardware salesmen mentioned good things about ABIT and Giga mobos, too, but I don't know if they are reliable, and I'm a fan of ASUS for a long time. And about the memory, everyone seems to say that Corsair is "da memory". Is that true? How reliable is it, anyway? Another doubt: which one would you choose, for the same price: A Serial-ATA 36GB disk, 10,000 RPM or a 120Gb 7200 RPM ATA100. I love free disk space, but a my doubt is: wouldn't a 36Gb disk running at 10,000 RPM be slower than a 120Gb 7200 RPM one? I mean, the 10000 RPM one will read more tracks per minute, but the 7200 one will read larger tracks, meaning more data per minute, and that's what I'm interested on. The use of those machines are for development, mainly VS.NET development (large solution, with about 110 projects). I've checked Tom's Hardware Guide, and found nothing conclusive yet... ORACLE One Real A$#h%le Called Lary Ellison
Tom's Hardware has a review of the SATA Seagate Raptor. It's faster.