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  • S Slow Eddie

    I am currently trying to learn a new language. I am proficient in VB.NET, C#, SQL, and T-SQL. I'm familiar with HTML and CSS. According to the TIOBE Index, and the PYPL index Python is the leading language. Is this your experience? As I am currently looking for a new Job, is this, in your opinion the most required Job opening requirements? If not, what language would recommend? :confused: BTW I have come across Required languages that I have never heard of before, on Code Project or anywhere else!

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    jsrjsr
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    A strange mix of languages here. One product is nearly pure C++, but is starting to also use C#. Another product is nearly pure C#, but uses a smidgeon of C++ to interact with the first product. Yet another product is pure C#, but uses a batch of P/Invokes to interact with other product written in C++. Finally, a few new web-based products that use a mix of C#, JavaScript, Python, and who knows what else. All of these products are in active development and hiring.

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    • B BryanFazekas

      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      Which is basic nonsense. If you understand SQL, then the difference between TSQL and PL/SQL is neglectable for normal tasks.

      I know that and you know that ... but the average hiring manager obviously did not. :-D

      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      You might as well learn COBOL.

      Funny you say that, as there's a market for COBOL due to the sheer mass of legacy systems. When sheer record processing power is required, COBOL gets the job done. Banks and state governments have many millions of records and have a lot of COBOL in production to handle the flow. Systems written originally in the 60's are still in production. [Nope, I'm not a COBOL programmer.]

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      Lost User
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      BryanFazekas wrote:

      Funny you say that

      It was intentional; a dead language that you should not learn, and has more job-opportunities than Python.

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      • T theoldfool

        True. But then I don't recall saying they did. I was just pointing out that there were some professional uses of Python. Seems like the AI folks like it and AI is better than beer and pizza. Just ask them. :) On the more serious side, good luck in your search. I didn't mean to make light of it.

        >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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        theoldfool wrote:

        True. But then I don't recall saying they did

        There's simply not enough demand.

        theoldfool wrote:

        I was just pointing out that there were some professional uses of Python

        None said that there's no use for it. Just that it is not a viable route if you are aiming at a job that pays.

        theoldfool wrote:

        Seems like the AI folks like it and AI is better than beer and pizza

        In that light, VB6 must be Chinese Takout still. After all, lots of companies like it.

        theoldfool wrote:

        On the more serious side, good luck in your search

        Just pointing out facts; you do not have to enjoy them. If I was searching, I'd not rely on luck. :cool:

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        • S Slow Eddie

          I am currently trying to learn a new language. I am proficient in VB.NET, C#, SQL, and T-SQL. I'm familiar with HTML and CSS. According to the TIOBE Index, and the PYPL index Python is the leading language. Is this your experience? As I am currently looking for a new Job, is this, in your opinion the most required Job opening requirements? If not, what language would recommend? :confused: BTW I have come across Required languages that I have never heard of before, on Code Project or anywhere else!

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          atali
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          I probably doubled popularity of Python in all these lists few years ago because I had to google literally everything that was more complex than a=b+c...

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          • S Slow Eddie

            I am currently trying to learn a new language. I am proficient in VB.NET, C#, SQL, and T-SQL. I'm familiar with HTML and CSS. According to the TIOBE Index, and the PYPL index Python is the leading language. Is this your experience? As I am currently looking for a new Job, is this, in your opinion the most required Job opening requirements? If not, what language would recommend? :confused: BTW I have come across Required languages that I have never heard of before, on Code Project or anywhere else!

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            Julian Ragan
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            I do Java, and I also have worked with python. Python is a funny experimental language, easier to work with than any basic dialect I have seen for non programmers and that is why it is immensely popular with AI/deep learning crowd. I have also some recollection, that it was gaining popularity with automated testing crowd. In my experience, python poses little challenge when learning it if you are already proficient in other programming languages. If you wan't to learn something new, maybe try picking a pure functional language?

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            • L Lost User

              CPallini wrote:

              As matter of fact, companies are using it more and more.

              I'd like to see a source for that claim; I'm not even ridiculing it because that is redundant. "More and more", did it climb from 0.21% usage to 0.22%? What comes preinstalled and works with Office, Exchange, SQL Server? Yes, your first idea must be Python! :laugh: Even Java is more requested. Not just locally btw. Python isn't even on the bloody list :sigh:

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              CPallini
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              'Preinstalled'? 'Windows'? :-D

              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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              • S Slow Eddie

                I am currently trying to learn a new language. I am proficient in VB.NET, C#, SQL, and T-SQL. I'm familiar with HTML and CSS. According to the TIOBE Index, and the PYPL index Python is the leading language. Is this your experience? As I am currently looking for a new Job, is this, in your opinion the most required Job opening requirements? If not, what language would recommend? :confused: BTW I have come across Required languages that I have never heard of before, on Code Project or anywhere else!

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                MikeCO10
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                First, I think it depends on what you WANT to do since you seem to be wanting to learn a new language. Forget the goofy indexes; most are based on searches rather than applications and if that's the case, asking questions is a more of a poll as to who is learning a language. Working on a desktop app, I can write C#/VB without much googling and don't use public GITs. Working CSS I'll have a lot of questions, mostly because I have my own concept of which attributes should be there :-D . Looking to do web, android or apple apps, back-end, IoT? Then look at the "stacks" being used for those purposes. The problem I see would be without a portfolio of specific experience in a given language, you're going to be outcompeted by those with experience. Python is sometimes promoted as an overall solution, but probably not used as much as one might think.

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                • C CPallini

                  'Preinstalled'? 'Windows'? :-D

                  "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                  The runtime for .NET is. vbrun300.dll, innit? :)

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  • S Slow Eddie

                    I am currently trying to learn a new language. I am proficient in VB.NET, C#, SQL, and T-SQL. I'm familiar with HTML and CSS. According to the TIOBE Index, and the PYPL index Python is the leading language. Is this your experience? As I am currently looking for a new Job, is this, in your opinion the most required Job opening requirements? If not, what language would recommend? :confused: BTW I have come across Required languages that I have never heard of before, on Code Project or anywhere else!

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                    megaadam
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                    I am a bit late to the party. Are you sure you are asking the right question? I would ask, in what domain do I want to work? Desktop algorithms/GUI ? Serverside? Web-frontend? Or “fullstack”? I hate that buzzword. A colleague got a job (car-sharing) where they use Kotlin (“some-next-gen-java-ish”). It is a less common languge. He did not claim to know it. Got the job anyway. Many companies involved with crypto-currency-trading are using Rust. Firefox got rewritten in Rust “recently”. Voi electro-scooters use Go on their servers. Visual-studio-code , Slack, written in Typescript. Wrapped in the Electron crossplatform container. Runs on “any” OS. So…. Ask yerself in what area you want to work. Research tech used in that area. Cheers

                    "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                    • R RickZeeland

                      When you try to get a job as a Python programmer with my company you will probably be laughed at, sorry :-\

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                      Matt McGuire
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                      same here. we don't believe the hype. beyond a few scripting examples, I haven't seen much use of it.

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