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  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

    She is smart - but that's not the point... How many teenagers do you know who willingly gives up on smartphone? In my experience she is the very first...

    “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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    Rage
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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

    she is the very first.

    Hence the "smart". What was her reason for ?

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

      she is the very first.

      Hence the "smart". What was her reason for ?

      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      Rage wrote:

      What was her reason for ?

      She told me that she feels it controls her time... Probably it will not last forever, but the second round probably will be much better and controlled...

      “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        She is smart - but that's not the point... How many teenagers do you know who willingly gives up on smartphone? In my experience she is the very first...

        “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

        How many teenagers do you know who willingly gives up on smartphone?

        I know a few that aren't allowed one :cool: It'd only be a surprise if she said she don't need one.

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          My second daughter (almost 15) started the school a bit differently... She put aside her smartphone (a fairly new Samsung A52) and picked a Nokia 215 we had in the drawer...

          “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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          she wants to be cool and use vintage electronics.

          CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

            How many teenagers do you know who willingly gives up on smartphone?

            I know a few that aren't allowed one :cool: It'd only be a surprise if she said she don't need one.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            Most teenagers in Israel need WhatsApp to stay in contact with their friends, receive school messages, etc. Anything else - meh. (That does not stop them from loading the poor devices with every game under the sun, and surfing the internet until the devices overheat...)

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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              she wants to be cool and use vintage electronics.

              CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              Maximilien wrote:

              be cool and use vintage electronics.

              Peter, I think my parents still have an old turntable somewhere if your daughter wants it. It's relatively modern - only plays 33rpm and 45 rpm. No vinyl records, though. :)

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                Maximilien wrote:

                be cool and use vintage electronics.

                Peter, I think my parents still have an old turntable somewhere if your daughter wants it. It's relatively modern - only plays 33rpm and 45 rpm. No vinyl records, though. :)

                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                My 'landline' phone is a 80+ year old dial phone... from the outside... inside I 'upgraded' it to a cellphone using some Arduino and shields...

                “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  Most teenagers in Israel need WhatsApp to stay in contact with their friends, receive school messages, etc. Anything else - meh. (That does not stop them from loading the poor devices with every game under the sun, and surfing the internet until the devices overheat...)

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  She told the teachers to send SMS if they want her to know things...

                  “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                    Most teenagers in Israel need WhatsApp to stay in contact with their friends, receive school messages, etc. Anything else - meh. (That does not stop them from loading the poor devices with every game under the sun, and surfing the internet until the devices overheat...)

                    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                    Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                    Most teenagers in Israel need WhatsApp to stay in contact with their friends

                    As in the rest of the world. I don't see how Israel is different here. If they want to keep contact, they can send sms or call using a normal phone. No discussions about using phones during dinner. If you at the table, they'll listen instead of playing a game. IMHO, that's an advantage in life :thumbsup:

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      My 'landline' phone is a 80+ year old dial phone... from the outside... inside I 'upgraded' it to a cellphone using some Arduino and shields...

                      “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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                      That's older than your country. :laugh:

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                        That's older than your country. :laugh:

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                        Daniel Pfeffer
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                        Yup. They don't make them any more like the British did. :)

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                          Yup. They don't make them any more like the British did. :)

                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                          Careful, you almost praised us there. ;P

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                            Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                            Most teenagers in Israel need WhatsApp to stay in contact with their friends

                            As in the rest of the world. I don't see how Israel is different here. If they want to keep contact, they can send sms or call using a normal phone. No discussions about using phones during dinner. If you at the table, they'll listen instead of playing a game. IMHO, that's an advantage in life :thumbsup:

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            As in the rest of the world. I don't see how Israel is different here.

                            US doesn't use WhatsApp very much, but we do live at the center of our own world

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                              That's older than your country. :laugh:

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                              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                              Yes. It made by 'The Consolidated Near East Co. LTD, Palestine'... Which was a British company...

                              “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

                              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                My second daughter (almost 15) started the school a bit differently... She put aside her smartphone (a fairly new Samsung A52) and picked a Nokia 215 we had in the drawer...

                                “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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                                That would be the "business" phone then.

                                "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                  Careful, you almost praised us there. ;P

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                                  Daniel Pfeffer
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                                  I apologize profusely. It won't happen again. :)

                                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                  • K Kaladin

                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    As in the rest of the world. I don't see how Israel is different here.

                                    US doesn't use WhatsApp very much, but we do live at the center of our own world

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                                    Granted.

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      She is smart - but that's not the point... How many teenagers do you know who willingly gives up on smartphone? In my experience she is the very first...

                                      “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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                                      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                      How many teenagers do you know who willingly gives up on smartphone?

                                      And replace it with a phone that can't be (easily) tracked? Plenty.

                                      "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                      "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                      "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                        My second daughter (almost 15) started the school a bit differently... She put aside her smartphone (a fairly new Samsung A52) and picked a Nokia 215 we had in the drawer...

                                        “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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                                        Every generation breeds one genius. Your daughter may be the one.

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                                          I am not sure what to do with this piece of information - Is there a hidden pun and have I been living under a rock, or is she smart indeed ?

                                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                          Kirk 10389821
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                                          I was surprised as well. My daughter was forbidden to be on Social Media. She started university at 14 and got an iPhone when she aced all her classes. The SURPRISE was that A TEACHER Demanded they get twitter accounts and follow the teacher for their assignments. I had a few words with the teacher when I found out (A fact my daughter tried to hide from me). She never posted anything, but she should NEVER have been forced to create that account (IMHO). We had a standing rule my daughter hated (until she was 18, I WOULD open her phone, and scroll through and read whatever was on her phone... as my job as her parent)... Anyways, she did well. Her biggest time waster is "Evil 2048", which she plays with her thumb, without even looking at the screen... LOL.

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