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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    A little late to the game?

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    Sam Hobbs
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    No, it still says got instead of have in many places here. I assume you intend to imply that the misuse of got has been here for a long time.

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      See 10a: Get Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster[^]

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      Sam Hobbs
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      Note that there are about 30 other examples in that page where got is used for the past tense. Yes, I know many people say I've got and variations of that but very seldom do they say I have got. Instead of I have got people nearly always say I have. Got means something has been transferred in the past. Have means possession. In the context here, the question is asking if we have (possess) a question. I sure hope no one minds the proper use of have and I think some people (other than me) mind the use of got in this context.

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        I got a programming question from Stack Overflow. It had already been answered.

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        I've got enough of this.

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        • S Sam Hobbs

          Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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          I got a new BMW for my girlfriend...hell of a deal but I'm gonna miss her.

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            I got a new BMW for my girlfriend...hell of a deal but I'm gonna miss her.

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            LOL! Good one.

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            • S Sam Hobbs

              Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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              OriginalGriff
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              Well, I have got a programming question ...

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Well, I have got a programming question ...

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                David ONeil
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                Sounds like a biggie. Good luck with it!

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                  Sounds like a biggie. Good luck with it!

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  No, it's a tiny question - easy for an expert to solve, I'm sure: "What's wrong with my code?" :-D

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    No, it's a tiny question - easy for an expert to solve, I'm sure: "What's wrong with my code?" :-D

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                    David ONeil
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                    It isn't written in Rust. Fix that and it will work.

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                    • D David ONeil

                      It isn't written in Rust. Fix that and it will work.

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      I dunno - it's looking pretty corroded from here already.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I dunno - it's looking pretty corroded from here already.

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                        David ONeil
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                        Oh. That's easy then. Put some WD-40 on it. That stuff fixes everything!

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                        • D David ONeil

                          Oh. That's easy then. Put some WD-40 on it. That stuff fixes everything!

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                          Dear Chris, An expert on your site suggested I spray my code with WD40, so I did and it all slid down the editor into a slimy pile of characters at the bottom of the file. I think some of the characters dissolved a bit as well as the semicolons all seem to be commas now. On the bright side, it works better than it did before but I don't understand it at all. Could you document it for me so I can hand it in?

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                          • S Sam Hobbs

                            Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                            Lost User
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                            Actually both are incorrect. They should be:

                            If you have a programming question ...

                            or

                            Have you got a programming question ...

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Well, I have got a programming question ...

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                              Nelek
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                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              I have got a programming question ...

                              Then go to the Q&A... this is the lounge and programing questions are not desired... :doh: :doh: :mad::mad: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                              • S Sam Hobbs

                                Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                                • S Sam Hobbs

                                  No, it still says got instead of have in many places here. I assume you intend to imply that the misuse of got has been here for a long time.

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                                  rareprob solutions
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                                  No, it's not like that, people who are familiar with any of these words use the as per their convenience.

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                                  • S Sam Hobbs

                                    No, it still says got instead of have in many places here. I assume you intend to imply that the misuse of got has been here for a long time.

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    No, I mean that it has been a meme here for many years.

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                                    • S Sam Hobbs

                                      Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                                      trønderen
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                                      Are you referring to the use of these specific words, or are you stating that a language should be static and never change? In my childhood, the old schoolmaster attitude was common in my country (Norway): The One, True, Correct, Proper way to use the language is as prescribed by a set of definitions in various documents, such as dictionaries. Over the last fifty years, our attitude has changed from prescriptive to descriptive. If 95% of the speakers of the language uses a construct in an 'improper' way, what is the use of maintaining a rule insisting that they are 'wrong'? Who 'owns' a language - the rule book, or its users? What if 90% break the rule? 70%? 50% and increasing? At what percentage / time did terrific, in the sense great, become 'proper'? Is its use in the old, proper sense of terrifying now improper use? Another negation: I could care less! has come to mean the same as I couldn't care less! - when did that become proper? Maybe we should work to reverse all such changes of the language. The question is how far back should we go. Even the English language has changed continuously over the centuries. I have met people who insist, in their Norwegian writing, to use no word that isn't rooted in the pre-1300 Viking Norse language. Actually, almost all from the 'prescriptive' camp can be said to go for a 'descriptive' line, except that the description is of the language two generations back. Certainly not half a generation back, and not four generations, but what the schoolmaster touted as 'proper' when they were grade school kids. Thirty years ago, Icelandic was one of the 'purest' languages in the Western world: When a new word was about to break into the language, the language program in Icelandic radio announced a competition for a replacement word based on Icelandic traditions. E.g. for 'computer' they took the old word for number, tall, and the word for a mythical truthsayer, volve, and made up the word tölvu, a number-truthsayer, for a computer. To travel is ferðast, so a portable PC is a fartölvu, a travel-number-truthsayer. Today, Icelandic has more or less given in completely, new words are accepted much more directly. English never even tried to resist change. So I guess any resistance is futile. ("I Got It Bad And That Ain't Good"[^] - composed 81 years ago.) My own approach is muc

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                                      • S Sam Hobbs

                                        Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        Is it safe to say you've gotten annoyed with that usage? :laugh:

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                                        • S Sam Hobbs

                                          Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                                          dandy72
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                                          "I've got news for you." "I've got a bad feeling about this." Given that "I've" is a contraction for "I have", this ultimately is the equivalent of "I have got news for you". I see the former all the time. Not the latter. Are they both wrong?

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