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  • D David ONeil

    Sounds like a biggie. Good luck with it!

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    No, it's a tiny question - easy for an expert to solve, I'm sure: "What's wrong with my code?" :-D

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      No, it's a tiny question - easy for an expert to solve, I'm sure: "What's wrong with my code?" :-D

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      It isn't written in Rust. Fix that and it will work.

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      • D David ONeil

        It isn't written in Rust. Fix that and it will work.

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        I dunno - it's looking pretty corroded from here already.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          I dunno - it's looking pretty corroded from here already.

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          David ONeil
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          Oh. That's easy then. Put some WD-40 on it. That stuff fixes everything!

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          • D David ONeil

            Oh. That's easy then. Put some WD-40 on it. That stuff fixes everything!

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            Dear Chris, An expert on your site suggested I spray my code with WD40, so I did and it all slid down the editor into a slimy pile of characters at the bottom of the file. I think some of the characters dissolved a bit as well as the semicolons all seem to be commas now. On the bright side, it works better than it did before but I don't understand it at all. Could you document it for me so I can hand it in?

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            • S Sam Hobbs

              Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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              Lost User
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              Actually both are incorrect. They should be:

              If you have a programming question ...

              or

              Have you got a programming question ...

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Well, I have got a programming question ...

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                Nelek
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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                I have got a programming question ...

                Then go to the Q&A... this is the lounge and programing questions are not desired... :doh: :doh: :mad::mad: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                • S Sam Hobbs

                  Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                  theoldfool
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                  From my service days, I heard guys say: "I think I've got the clapp". :)

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                  • S Sam Hobbs

                    No, it still says got instead of have in many places here. I assume you intend to imply that the misuse of got has been here for a long time.

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                    rareprob solutions
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                    No, it's not like that, people who are familiar with any of these words use the as per their convenience.

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                    • S Sam Hobbs

                      No, it still says got instead of have in many places here. I assume you intend to imply that the misuse of got has been here for a long time.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      No, I mean that it has been a meme here for many years.

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                      • S Sam Hobbs

                        Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                        trønderen
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                        Are you referring to the use of these specific words, or are you stating that a language should be static and never change? In my childhood, the old schoolmaster attitude was common in my country (Norway): The One, True, Correct, Proper way to use the language is as prescribed by a set of definitions in various documents, such as dictionaries. Over the last fifty years, our attitude has changed from prescriptive to descriptive. If 95% of the speakers of the language uses a construct in an 'improper' way, what is the use of maintaining a rule insisting that they are 'wrong'? Who 'owns' a language - the rule book, or its users? What if 90% break the rule? 70%? 50% and increasing? At what percentage / time did terrific, in the sense great, become 'proper'? Is its use in the old, proper sense of terrifying now improper use? Another negation: I could care less! has come to mean the same as I couldn't care less! - when did that become proper? Maybe we should work to reverse all such changes of the language. The question is how far back should we go. Even the English language has changed continuously over the centuries. I have met people who insist, in their Norwegian writing, to use no word that isn't rooted in the pre-1300 Viking Norse language. Actually, almost all from the 'prescriptive' camp can be said to go for a 'descriptive' line, except that the description is of the language two generations back. Certainly not half a generation back, and not four generations, but what the schoolmaster touted as 'proper' when they were grade school kids. Thirty years ago, Icelandic was one of the 'purest' languages in the Western world: When a new word was about to break into the language, the language program in Icelandic radio announced a competition for a replacement word based on Icelandic traditions. E.g. for 'computer' they took the old word for number, tall, and the word for a mythical truthsayer, volve, and made up the word tölvu, a number-truthsayer, for a computer. To travel is ferðast, so a portable PC is a fartölvu, a travel-number-truthsayer. Today, Icelandic has more or less given in completely, new words are accepted much more directly. English never even tried to resist change. So I guess any resistance is futile. ("I Got It Bad And That Ain't Good"[^] - composed 81 years ago.) My own approach is muc

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                        • S Sam Hobbs

                          Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                          Dan Neely
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                          Is it safe to say you've gotten annoyed with that usage? :laugh:

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                          • S Sam Hobbs

                            Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                            dandy72
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                            "I've got news for you." "I've got a bad feeling about this." Given that "I've" is a contraction for "I have", this ultimately is the equivalent of "I have got news for you". I see the former all the time. Not the latter. Are they both wrong?

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              No, I mean that it has been a meme here for many years.

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                              "I got it bad (and that ain't good)" dates back to 1941.

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                              • S Sam Hobbs

                                Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                                rnbergren
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                                don't really 'give' a sh!t one way or the other. Sorry. As long as a person communicates their intentions and needs to me and others. I got what they were after in their communication. I work with a ton of people for whom English is their second or fourth language. And forcing them to have to keep track of these kind of stupid rules is what stops communication sometimes. my .02

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                                  Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                                  Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                  I assume you have got a problem with deviant grammar? CQ de W5ALT

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                                    don't really 'give' a sh!t one way or the other. Sorry. As long as a person communicates their intentions and needs to me and others. I got what they were after in their communication. I work with a ton of people for whom English is their second or fourth language. And forcing them to have to keep track of these kind of stupid rules is what stops communication sometimes. my .02

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                                    trønderen
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                                    rnbergren wrote:

                                    don't really 'give' a sh!t one way or the other. Sorry. As long as a person communicates their intentions and needs to me and others.

                                    I guess that the issue is whether that person actually does communicate their intention to others, or not. In some contexts, animal grunting may be sufficient, but not for intellectual conversation. Unambiguous messages may be essential for conveying information. I have had students getting really pissed at me for pointing out that "feilmelding", "error message" in English, is quite different from "feil melding", "wrong message" in English. The students insisted that asking them to change their wording was nitpicking, because everybody would understand from context that they meant "error message", even when they wrote "wrong message". Sorry, I am not buying that. I do not trust that when you say something, the listener (/reader) will interpret it as something else. We should enforce clear, unambiguous communication in our everyday lives. We should of course be tolerant of language mistakes from those who are not fluent in the local language, but that is quite different from saying that we should abandon all rules of wording, grammar and spelling - even when the receiver of the message can make at least some sense out of it. Essential details may still be missed. I can't remember a single case where I have pointed out some language 'weakness', whether in choice of words, grammar or pronunciation, whether in English or Norwegian, where my corrections/comments have caused negative reactions. Maybe I make my comments in a respectful and positive way :-)

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                                    • S Sam Hobbs

                                      Very many people are using got improperly. For example, Got a programming question is improper; Have a programming question is proper.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      I never been proper. People are paying one for it.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Actually both are incorrect. They should be:

                                        If you have a programming question ...

                                        or

                                        Have you got a programming question ...

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                                        Sam Hobbs
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                                        I do not think that Have you got a programming question would be correct. I think that simply Have a programming question? would be correct.

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                                          Are you referring to the use of these specific words, or are you stating that a language should be static and never change? In my childhood, the old schoolmaster attitude was common in my country (Norway): The One, True, Correct, Proper way to use the language is as prescribed by a set of definitions in various documents, such as dictionaries. Over the last fifty years, our attitude has changed from prescriptive to descriptive. If 95% of the speakers of the language uses a construct in an 'improper' way, what is the use of maintaining a rule insisting that they are 'wrong'? Who 'owns' a language - the rule book, or its users? What if 90% break the rule? 70%? 50% and increasing? At what percentage / time did terrific, in the sense great, become 'proper'? Is its use in the old, proper sense of terrifying now improper use? Another negation: I could care less! has come to mean the same as I couldn't care less! - when did that become proper? Maybe we should work to reverse all such changes of the language. The question is how far back should we go. Even the English language has changed continuously over the centuries. I have met people who insist, in their Norwegian writing, to use no word that isn't rooted in the pre-1300 Viking Norse language. Actually, almost all from the 'prescriptive' camp can be said to go for a 'descriptive' line, except that the description is of the language two generations back. Certainly not half a generation back, and not four generations, but what the schoolmaster touted as 'proper' when they were grade school kids. Thirty years ago, Icelandic was one of the 'purest' languages in the Western world: When a new word was about to break into the language, the language program in Icelandic radio announced a competition for a replacement word based on Icelandic traditions. E.g. for 'computer' they took the old word for number, tall, and the word for a mythical truthsayer, volve, and made up the word tölvu, a number-truthsayer, for a computer. To travel is ferðast, so a portable PC is a fartölvu, a travel-number-truthsayer. Today, Icelandic has more or less given in completely, new words are accepted much more directly. English never even tried to resist change. So I guess any resistance is futile. ("I Got It Bad And That Ain't Good"[^] - composed 81 years ago.) My own approach is muc

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                                          Sam Hobbs
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                                          I strongly agree that English needs extensive improvement with thinking and planning. Something new that happens because someone feels it could be an improvement could make things worse. Use of words for multiple purposes are more likely to add to the confusion. Use of got in this different manner adds to the confusion. An example of a change that does not add value is the use of the apostrophe symbol instead of the quotation symbol for quotes, as in: 'wrong' instead of "wrong" 'proper' instead of "proper" That change adds no value; it is more likely to cause confusion.

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