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It's been a long time since I've used WinZip, so I can't remember exactly what "batch processing" it offers. But you can use 7zip from the command-line - try
7z --helpto see the list of commands and switches you can use.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Thank you for directing me to 7-Zip. It supports a "@listfile" argument which no doubt is a batch file. Precisely what I need. I still require the ability to see the archive contents and the heirarchy therein and the ability to move things around within the archive via cut copy paste etc. just as one can in Windows Explorer. To my surprise 7-Zip does not seem to provide this even though it duplicates much of this functionality for source files on permanent storage. The archive itself remains hidden from view. So I guess I'm stuck w/ WinZip. The horror.
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I made the mistake of purchasing a WinZip license once, many many years ago. I then spent years trying to get them to stop sending me spam emails promoting the latest version, despite repeatedly opting out of all email. In the end, I just had to block the entire domain. Since 7-Zip[^] is free, I don't understand why anyone would ever pay for a different zipping tool.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Thank You for directing me to 7-Zip. Unfortunately upon test I found its GUI more clunky than WinZip's. Virtually unusable if attempting to view and manipulate archive contents. It seems I am stuck w/ WinZip. Perhaps this is why I purchased it.
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In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:
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In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:
Back in the early nineties I bought a WinZip perpetual, lifetime, free upgrades, all-you-can-eat licence. A few years later when I went to install an upgrade they did the same to me. I sent a copy of my licence to tech support and requested they honour the commitment I paid for, and got a reply in the vein of 'that was then and this is now' and 'that was them and this is us' reply from whoever had just bought it. They finished the email with the statement "We never said it would be free forever" which was precisely what they had promised. I got a good buddy in the corporate legal department (I had risen through the ranks of coder to MD of their Middle East subsidiary) to write a very-nasty-gram to the new owners stating that as they had bought the original owner of the product and not liquidated them and purchased the assets they were legally bound to accept all outstanding liabilities. Never got a reply I and I have used WinRAR ever since.
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In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:
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Back in the early nineties I bought a WinZip perpetual, lifetime, free upgrades, all-you-can-eat licence. A few years later when I went to install an upgrade they did the same to me. I sent a copy of my licence to tech support and requested they honour the commitment I paid for, and got a reply in the vein of 'that was then and this is now' and 'that was them and this is us' reply from whoever had just bought it. They finished the email with the statement "We never said it would be free forever" which was precisely what they had promised. I got a good buddy in the corporate legal department (I had risen through the ranks of coder to MD of their Middle East subsidiary) to write a very-nasty-gram to the new owners stating that as they had bought the original owner of the product and not liquidated them and purchased the assets they were legally bound to accept all outstanding liabilities. Never got a reply I and I have used WinRAR ever since.
Chris C-B wrote:
Back in the early nineties I bought a WinZip perpetual, lifetime, free upgrades, all-you-can-eat licence
Ditto. In the 90's, WinZip had the best interface -- far better than PKWare's meager offering. I purchased the perpetual license and was very happy. The original developer sold it, and it turned NagZip. I've tried numerous Zip tools over the years, and WinZip -- as much as it irritates me -- has the best interface, especially with large archives. When I update a license, I let the software check for upgrades monthly. When a new version comes out and they want $$$, I turn off checks, as they no longer update the previous version. Every 4 or 5 years they'll offer a great "upgrade" price and I'll snag a new version. I think I'm on v22 now, and current version is v27. At some point they'll offer me an upgrade price of $10, and I'll probably do it. If that never happens? v22 works fine ...
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In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:
Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ?
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Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ?
> Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ? - to bundle multiple files into one, preserving directory structure. - to have a checksum when sending multiple files. - to have a (maybe not so strong) password on that attachment. - compression sec might not be the primary advantage anymore. Furthermore note that .zip is used as container format for some applications. Best known is the open office ODT / ODS formats. If you rename (a copy of) a xyz.odt document to an xyz.zip you can peek inside and even manipulate the data.
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Thank you for directing me to 7-Zip. It supports a "@listfile" argument which no doubt is a batch file. Precisely what I need. I still require the ability to see the archive contents and the heirarchy therein and the ability to move things around within the archive via cut copy paste etc. just as one can in Windows Explorer. To my surprise 7-Zip does not seem to provide this even though it duplicates much of this functionality for source files on permanent storage. The archive itself remains hidden from view. So I guess I'm stuck w/ WinZip. The horror.
@ListFile is a file that contains a list of all the files to backup, useful when they are scattered about a bit usual gotcha with 7zip is do NOT use -r unless you really understand it. It isn't recurse sub directories but forces 7zip to search the disk for matching file names not as intuitive as it could be
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> Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ? - to bundle multiple files into one, preserving directory structure. - to have a checksum when sending multiple files. - to have a (maybe not so strong) password on that attachment. - compression sec might not be the primary advantage anymore. Furthermore note that .zip is used as container format for some applications. Best known is the open office ODT / ODS formats. If you rename (a copy of) a xyz.odt document to an xyz.zip you can peek inside and even manipulate the data.
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In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:
I haven't used WinZip/7Zip in years. You guys do know that basic zipping/unzipping is built right into Windows Explorer, right?
Truth, James
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I haven't used WinZip/7Zip in years. You guys do know that basic zipping/unzipping is built right into Windows Explorer, right?
Truth, James
It is built in to Windows Explorer, but their implementation is clunky, and not suitable for everything I want to do with an unzipping tool. For example, with 7-Zip you can examine the contents of a single file without unzipping the entire archive. The 7-Zip compression format is more efficient (in terms of space, not CPU) than Zip, so you can pack more into an archive. Windows' implementation gives you only one zip format. Being that 7-Zip is free, there's no reason to not use it unless you feel it's just too complicated. Best, --Geoff
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I made the mistake of purchasing a WinZip license once, many many years ago. I then spent years trying to get them to stop sending me spam emails promoting the latest version, despite repeatedly opting out of all email. In the end, I just had to block the entire domain. Since 7-Zip[^] is free, I don't understand why anyone would ever pay for a different zipping tool.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
I, too, use 7-Zip. And am proud to say I’m one of the handful of people who paid (donated) for WinRAR. I had WinZip many years ago.
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel
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I made the mistake of purchasing a WinZip license once, many many years ago. I then spent years trying to get them to stop sending me spam emails promoting the latest version, despite repeatedly opting out of all email. In the end, I just had to block the entire domain. Since 7-Zip[^] is free, I don't understand why anyone would ever pay for a different zipping tool.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:
So out there someone actually bought WinZIP and WinRAR licenses. Huh, I thought it was a legend.
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I haven't used WinZip/7Zip in years. You guys do know that basic zipping/unzipping is built right into Windows Explorer, right?
Truth, James
Standard Zip is worse than 7z, Windows manages Zip quite badly and the format itself isn't good. Also 7zip is cross platform.
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The only reason I've ever needed to use WinZip is when I had the need to create a self-extracting archive. I don't believe 7zip does that. Other than that, one use case, I really prefer 7zip.
Just tick the "Create SFX archive" option: How to Use 7Zip to Create Self Extracting excutables: 5 Steps[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:
Get a life already and simply use 7-Zip instead...
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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I made the mistake of purchasing a WinZip license once, many many years ago. I then spent years trying to get them to stop sending me spam emails promoting the latest version, despite repeatedly opting out of all email. In the end, I just had to block the entire domain. Since 7-Zip[^] is free, I don't understand why anyone would ever pay for a different zipping tool.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ?
I've been creating some NuGet packages, which are essentially zip files. After creating a NuGet package, I usually unzip (using 7-zip, as I don't have to change the extension first) to verify the file contents. Similar for Office docs if I am doing anything programattic with them.
