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  • R Rage

    Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ?

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    rob tillaart
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    > Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ? - to bundle multiple files into one, preserving directory structure. - to have a checksum when sending multiple files. - to have a (maybe not so strong) password on that attachment. - compression sec might not be the primary advantage anymore. Furthermore note that .zip is used as container format for some applications. Best known is the open office ODT / ODS formats. If you rename (a copy of) a xyz.odt document to an xyz.zip you can peek inside and even manipulate the data.

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    • B BernardIE5317

      Thank you for directing me to 7-Zip. It supports a "@listfile" argument which no doubt is a batch file. Precisely what I need. I still require the ability to see the archive contents and the heirarchy therein and the ability to move things around within the archive via cut copy paste etc. just as one can in Windows Explorer. To my surprise 7-Zip does not seem to provide this even though it duplicates much of this functionality for source files on permanent storage. The archive itself remains hidden from view. So I guess I'm stuck w/ WinZip. The horror.

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      MikeD 2
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      @ListFile is a file that contains a list of all the files to backup, useful when they are scattered about a bit usual gotcha with 7zip is do NOT use -r unless you really understand it. It isn't recurse sub directories but forces 7zip to search the disk for matching file names not as intuitive as it could be

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      • R rob tillaart

        > Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ? - to bundle multiple files into one, preserving directory structure. - to have a checksum when sending multiple files. - to have a (maybe not so strong) password on that attachment. - compression sec might not be the primary advantage anymore. Furthermore note that .zip is used as container format for some applications. Best known is the open office ODT / ODS formats. If you rename (a copy of) a xyz.odt document to an xyz.zip you can peek inside and even manipulate the data.

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        obermd
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        The new MS-Office format is also a zip file in disguise.

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        • B BernardIE5317

          In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:

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          James Curran
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          I haven't used WinZip/7Zip in years. You guys do know that basic zipping/unzipping is built right into Windows Explorer, right?

          Truth, James

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          • J James Curran

            I haven't used WinZip/7Zip in years. You guys do know that basic zipping/unzipping is built right into Windows Explorer, right?

            Truth, James

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            Geoff Gariepy
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            It is built in to Windows Explorer, but their implementation is clunky, and not suitable for everything I want to do with an unzipping tool. For example, with 7-Zip you can examine the contents of a single file without unzipping the entire archive. The 7-Zip compression format is more efficient (in terms of space, not CPU) than Zip, so you can pack more into an archive. Windows' implementation gives you only one zip format. Being that 7-Zip is free, there's no reason to not use it unless you feel it's just too complicated. Best, --Geoff

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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              I made the mistake of purchasing a WinZip license once, many many years ago. I then spent years trying to get them to stop sending me spam emails promoting the latest version, despite repeatedly opting out of all email. In the end, I just had to block the entire domain. Since 7-Zip[^] is free, I don't understand why anyone would ever pay for a different zipping tool.


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              Mark Starr
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              I, too, use 7-Zip. And am proud to say I’m one of the handful of people who paid (donated) for WinRAR. I had WinZip many years ago.

              Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                I made the mistake of purchasing a WinZip license once, many many years ago. I then spent years trying to get them to stop sending me spam emails promoting the latest version, despite repeatedly opting out of all email. In the end, I just had to block the entire domain. Since 7-Zip[^] is free, I don't understand why anyone would ever pay for a different zipping tool.


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                Mark_Rees
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                The only reason I've ever needed to use WinZip is when I had the need to create a self-extracting archive. I don't believe 7zip does that. Other than that, one use case, I really prefer 7zip.

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                • B BernardIE5317

                  In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:

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                  den2k88
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                  So out there someone actually bought WinZIP and WinRAR licenses. Huh, I thought it was a legend.

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                  • J James Curran

                    I haven't used WinZip/7Zip in years. You guys do know that basic zipping/unzipping is built right into Windows Explorer, right?

                    Truth, James

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                    den2k88
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                    Standard Zip is worse than 7z, Windows manages Zip quite badly and the format itself isn't good. Also 7zip is cross platform.

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                    • M Mark_Rees

                      The only reason I've ever needed to use WinZip is when I had the need to create a self-extracting archive. I don't believe 7zip does that. Other than that, one use case, I really prefer 7zip.

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      Just tick the "Create SFX archive" option: How to Use 7Zip to Create Self Extracting excutables: 5 Steps[^]


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                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                      • B BernardIE5317

                        In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:

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                        Steve Naidamast
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                        Get a life already and simply use 7-Zip instead...

                        Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                        • R Rage

                          Are people still using zip files ? In what kind of use case ?

                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                          Andreas Mertens
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                          I've been creating some NuGet packages, which are essentially zip files. After creating a NuGet package, I usually unzip (using 7-zip, as I don't have to change the extension first) to verify the file contents. Similar for Office docs if I am doing anything programattic with them.

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                          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                            I made the mistake of purchasing a WinZip license once, many many years ago. I then spent years trying to get them to stop sending me spam emails promoting the latest version, despite repeatedly opting out of all email. In the end, I just had to block the entire domain. Since 7-Zip[^] is free, I don't understand why anyone would ever pay for a different zipping tool.


                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                            sasadler
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                            Yeah, I've been using 7zip for so long I pretty much forgot that WinZip even existed.

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                            • B BernardIE5317

                              In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:

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                              Andreas Mertens
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                              Just wanted to mention that 7-zip has an API, so it should be possible to create some sort of app to automate some level of your workflow... Not used it myself, but it might be of use for what you need.

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                              • B BernardIE5317

                                In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:

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                                Ralf Quint
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                                Very simple, 7Zip to the rescue... ;-) I haven't used WinZIP in at least a decade...

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                                • B BernardIE5317

                                  In WinZip today I clicked on "Check for Update" which displayed a window which announced "Your Software is out of date" and displayed an advertisement for an "Upgrade" to purchase another Corel WinZip product a "WinZip Suite" w/ no means to update to be seen. I sent a nasty note to their support. Their explanation was the reason the advertisement was presented is because WinZip is programmed to do so!? Of course I again sent a nasty response to that one. Upon inquiring further I learned there is no "Update" other than by purchase. I sent another nasty note to support requesting they inform Corel President I will never purchase a Corel product as this one is so deceitful. Furthermore after above unpleasantries upon opening web browser I am confronted w/ this www.dropbox.com[^] :rolleyes: :omg: :wtf: :mad::confused::~ X| :suss:

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                                  Al Fargnoli
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                                  I haven't used WinZip since I discovered 7-Zip.

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                                  • J James Curran

                                    I haven't used WinZip/7Zip in years. You guys do know that basic zipping/unzipping is built right into Windows Explorer, right?

                                    Truth, James

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                                    Matt Bond
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                                    7-Zip can create files in the Windows ZIP format and in other formats that Windows can't handle natively.

                                    Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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                                    • B BernardIE5317

                                      Thank you for directing me to 7-Zip. It supports a "@listfile" argument which no doubt is a batch file. Precisely what I need. I still require the ability to see the archive contents and the heirarchy therein and the ability to move things around within the archive via cut copy paste etc. just as one can in Windows Explorer. To my surprise 7-Zip does not seem to provide this even though it duplicates much of this functionality for source files on permanent storage. The archive itself remains hidden from view. So I guess I'm stuck w/ WinZip. The horror.

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                                      Matt Bond
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                                      If you right click on a *.7zip file, then you get a 7-zip context menu. In that sub-menu there is an option to "Open Archive". You can also open that archiving program directly from c:\Program Files\7-zip\7zFM.exe (FM = file manager). Once you have the archive open, you can do what you want with the files within. Hope that helps,

                                      Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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                                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                        I made the mistake of purchasing a WinZip license once, many many years ago. I then spent years trying to get them to stop sending me spam emails promoting the latest version, despite repeatedly opting out of all email. In the end, I just had to block the entire domain. Since 7-Zip[^] is free, I don't understand why anyone would ever pay for a different zipping tool.


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                        Reelix
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                                        Last I checked, maximum rar compression was still better in many cases. Has that changed in the past few years?

                                        -= Reelix =-

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                                        • M milo xml

                                          Have you ever checked out WinRar?

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                                          BernardIE5317
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                                          I was not aware of WinRAR. Downloaded today and will investigate. Thank You. I have doubts though as I prefer a GUI into the archive which offers the same functionality of Explorer which WinZip almost does. 7-Zip does not and I have doubts re/ same of WinRAR but we'll see. One of my future fantasy projects is write a Zipper of my preference. I can't decide on a name though. Maybe EZZip, or SimpleZip or ZimpleZip or ZipeedeedoodaZip and give it away for a mere cup of coffee of course w/ forever free updates/upgrades and responsive bug fixes feature requests and put WinZip out of business. :)

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