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  • D den2k88

    Elonny got his gun. EDIT: well if he manages to cost big busck to Apple and possibly tear down them both in a suicidal attack I will :elephant:ing root for him.

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    dandy72
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    We could only be so lucky.

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    • T trønderen

      den2k88 wrote:

      Elonny got his gun

      If this is a reference to what I think it is ... Dalton Trumbo: Johnny Got His Gun ... I suspect that a lot of people don't get it, the real seriousness of it. I rarely find people who has read the book, or even seen the movie. (It really is impossible to make a movie out of that novel, but they did the best out of it: Johnny Got His Gun 1971 - YouTube[^]) Giving the novel my strong recommendations, I must do so with some equally strong warnings: Don't read it if you are even slightly down. It takes a lot of mental strength to handle this story. It is black. And relating Elon to Johnny is really ... I don't know what to say. Cruel. Brutal. Black. (For those who do not know the novel: Johnny is a WW1 soldier, waking up after an attack, discovering that he has no hearing, no eyesight, no limbs, no nothing ... He is completely isolated under all his bandages. Slowly, one of the nurses who happens to know morse, manages to establish contact with Johnny's consciousness, tapping morse code on his skin, with him replying by contractions of the few muscles that he still can control. But the doctors think the nurse is crazy, believing that she can communicate with a vegetable such as Johnny. So she is moved to a different post. ... Not quite a happy ending.)

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      dandy72
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      trønderen wrote:

      If this is a reference to what I think it is ... Dalton Trumbo: Johnny Got His Gun

      And here I was thinking about Aerosmith's Janie's Got a Gun. :-)

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        trønderen wrote:

        If this is a reference to what I think it is ... Dalton Trumbo: Johnny Got His Gun

        And here I was thinking about Aerosmith's Janie's Got a Gun. :-)

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        Ha! If you want an actual rock music reference to "Johnny Got His Gun" look no further than Metallica: One (Official Music Video) - YouTube[^]

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          Ha! If you want an actual rock music reference to "Johnny Got His Gun" look no further than Metallica: One (Official Music Video) - YouTube[^]

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          den2k88
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          Hooooooold my breath

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          • D dandy72

            trønderen wrote:

            If this is a reference to what I think it is ... Dalton Trumbo: Johnny Got His Gun

            And here I was thinking about Aerosmith's Janie's Got a Gun. :-)

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            k5054
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            dandy72 wrote:

            And here I was thinking about Aerosmith's Janie's Got a Gun

            Me too. But somehow the thread title made me think of "Two Tribes" (Frankie Goes to Hollywood). Maybe a satirical version: When Elon Musk goes to war...

            Keep Calm and Carry On

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            • M megaadam

              He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels

              "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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              Kevin Marois
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              Are the lights still on over there??

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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              • B BryanFazekas

                I read an editorial that suggested Musk's plan, since he couldn't back out of the Twitter purchase, was to find evidence of malfeasance on the part of Twitter management, and sue them. While I don't see how he'd recoup $44B from that, this sounds like something he'd do. Regarding Apple, they are already the target regarding their practices, so Musk may be dog piling. Or maybe he believes there is collusion between the former Twitter management and Apple. Or Musk may simply have a screw loose. All of the above are not mutually exclusive. :laugh:

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                jschell
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                BryanFazekas wrote:

                was to find evidence of malfeasance on the part of Twitter management, and sue them.

                The point of that was so he could use it to invalidate the purchase contract because the due diligence would then be fraudulent.

                BryanFazekas wrote:

                they are already the target regarding their practices, so Musk may be dog piling

                He just attacks people that do not agree with him.

                BryanFazekas wrote:

                have a screw loose.

                Perhaps megalomania.

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  Are the lights still on over there??

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                  fgs1963
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                  Errr... Twitter usage is actually up since Musk took over.

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                  • K k5054

                    dandy72 wrote:

                    And here I was thinking about Aerosmith's Janie's Got a Gun

                    Me too. But somehow the thread title made me think of "Two Tribes" (Frankie Goes to Hollywood). Maybe a satirical version: When Elon Musk goes to war...

                    Keep Calm and Carry On

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                    Slacker007
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                    k5054 wrote:

                    dandy72 wrote:And here I was thinking about Aerosmith's Janie's Got a Gun

                    same here. some how the entire thread got overly serious.

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                    • D Daniel Pfeffer

                      If Elon (or anyone else) want to throw his/her money away, that is their privilege. I must say that I don't understand his recent decisions - both his decision to go forward with the Twitter purchase, and his gutting of the company after the purchase.

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                      Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                      both his decision to go forward with the Twitter purchase

                      He did not want to go through with the purchase. The legal process/Courts were making him honor the contract. He had no choice really. Now, as I have said before, he is sinking the ship, one way or another. Twitter is finished.

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                      • M megaadam

                        He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels

                        "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                        Slacker007
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                        I don't have a problem with Musk like so many people here apparently do. I try to live by the mantra of cleaning my doorstep before I clean others. I don't always succeed at this but I do try. So, you can hate on Musk all you want until your heads explode, or you can chill out, and worry about more important things.

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                          He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels

                          "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                          Single Step Debugger
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                          For me, the only result of all this hype is that I start using Twitter. Out of curiosity. It's not that bad to be honest.

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                          • M megaadam

                            He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels

                            "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                            Lost User
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                            It only looks like a "war" to the general public. The fact that the "Twitter app" is now "Musk's app", is a good enough reason to stay away from it. (IMO). If I wanted to use Twitter (and I don't), I'd use a browser. I don't know how many people get that part. And they're confusing free will (ads) and free speech.

                            "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                            • F fgs1963

                              Errr... Twitter usage is actually up since Musk took over.

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                              Kevin Marois
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                              Ya, but do they have any programmers left to work on it? :-D

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                              • S Slacker007

                                I don't have a problem with Musk like so many people here apparently do. I try to live by the mantra of cleaning my doorstep before I clean others. I don't always succeed at this but I do try. So, you can hate on Musk all you want until your heads explode, or you can chill out, and worry about more important things.

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                                megaadam
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                                I have no problem with Musk as a person. And never had. I do have a problem with the deeds people with enormous power who do bad things. Such as opening the gates to hate speech and misogyny. Such firing people with the "wrong" opinions. And being arrogant about the whole thing. Most of all, as my original post indicates, I am fairly certain that he is destroying his own fortune. And I do find that interesting, to observe. And if I am wrong, it still is interesting.

                                "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                                • K Kevin Marois

                                  Ya, but do they have any programmers left to work on it? :-D

                                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                  fgs1963
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                                  No idea if they have enough now... but even the biggest Twitter fanboy has to admit that they were WAY OVER-STAFFED when Musk took over.

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                                  • M megaadam

                                    I have no problem with Musk as a person. And never had. I do have a problem with the deeds people with enormous power who do bad things. Such as opening the gates to hate speech and misogyny. Such firing people with the "wrong" opinions. And being arrogant about the whole thing. Most of all, as my original post indicates, I am fairly certain that he is destroying his own fortune. And I do find that interesting, to observe. And if I am wrong, it still is interesting.

                                    "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                                    fgs1963
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                                    megaadam wrote:

                                    Such as opening the gates to hate speech and misogyny. Such firing people with the "wrong" opinions. And being arrogant about the whole thing.

                                    Those are 3 very interesting sentences all in a row. If you look through the eyes of the 10's of thousands of Twitter accounts "permanently" suspended by the previous regime simply for the mistake of questioning the effectiveness of cloth masks, canceling in-person school or mentioning the contents of a certain person's laptop it takes on a whole different perspective. Just saying...

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      It only looks like a "war" to the general public. The fact that the "Twitter app" is now "Musk's app", is a good enough reason to stay away from it. (IMO). If I wanted to use Twitter (and I don't), I'd use a browser. I don't know how many people get that part. And they're confusing free will (ads) and free speech.

                                      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                      DRHuff
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                                      Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                      The fact that the "Twitter app" is now "Musk's app", is a good enough reason to stay away from it. (IMO).

                                      What has he done that you have this attitude? Space-X, Tesla, Starlink, Boring? I personally think Space-X is elephanting amazing and on that alone I admire the guy. Has he done dickish business moves over the years - yeah. Pretty much de rigueur for the billionaire class. I don't stop using Apple products because Jobs was an ass, I don't stop using Windows because Gates use monopolistic business tactics. What is about this guy that drives everyone crazy? Is it simply his politics? :confused:

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                                        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                        The fact that the "Twitter app" is now "Musk's app", is a good enough reason to stay away from it. (IMO).

                                        What has he done that you have this attitude? Space-X, Tesla, Starlink, Boring? I personally think Space-X is elephanting amazing and on that alone I admire the guy. Has he done dickish business moves over the years - yeah. Pretty much de rigueur for the billionaire class. I don't stop using Apple products because Jobs was an ass, I don't stop using Windows because Gates use monopolistic business tactics. What is about this guy that drives everyone crazy? Is it simply his politics? :confused:

                                        If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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                                        David ONeil
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                                        DRHuff wrote:

                                        What has he done that you have this attitude? ... Has he done dickish business moves over the years - yeah. Pretty much de rigueur for the billionaire class.

                                        And there you have answered your own question. Why the fuck would we want to be ruled by a**holes? I sure don't.

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                                          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                                          both his decision to go forward with the Twitter purchase

                                          He did not want to go through with the purchase. The legal process/Courts were making him honor the contract. He had no choice really. Now, as I have said before, he is sinking the ship, one way or another. Twitter is finished.

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                                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                                          Slacker007 wrote:

                                          The legal process/Courts were making him honor the contract

                                          AIUI, there was a clause in the Twitter purchase contract that allowed him to cancel, on payment of a (large) fee. Musk didn't want to go through with the purchase, but also didn't want to pay the cancellation fee. He apparently decided that ownership of Twitter was the lesser of the two evils.

                                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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