Elon goes to war
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Are the lights still on over there??
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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dandy72 wrote:
And here I was thinking about Aerosmith's Janie's Got a Gun
Me too. But somehow the thread title made me think of "Two Tribes" (Frankie Goes to Hollywood). Maybe a satirical version: When Elon Musk goes to war...
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k5054 wrote:
dandy72 wrote:And here I was thinking about Aerosmith's Janie's Got a Gun
same here. some how the entire thread got overly serious.
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If Elon (or anyone else) want to throw his/her money away, that is their privilege. I must say that I don't understand his recent decisions - both his decision to go forward with the Twitter purchase, and his gutting of the company after the purchase.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
both his decision to go forward with the Twitter purchase
He did not want to go through with the purchase. The legal process/Courts were making him honor the contract. He had no choice really. Now, as I have said before, he is sinking the ship, one way or another. Twitter is finished.
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He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
I don't have a problem with Musk like so many people here apparently do. I try to live by the mantra of cleaning my doorstep before I clean others. I don't always succeed at this but I do try. So, you can hate on Musk all you want until your heads explode, or you can chill out, and worry about more important things.
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He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
For me, the only result of all this hype is that I start using Twitter. Out of curiosity. It's not that bad to be honest.
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He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
It only looks like a "war" to the general public. The fact that the "Twitter app" is now "Musk's app", is a good enough reason to stay away from it. (IMO). If I wanted to use Twitter (and I don't), I'd use a browser. I don't know how many people get that part. And they're confusing free will (ads) and free speech.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Ya, but do they have any programmers left to work on it? :-D
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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I don't have a problem with Musk like so many people here apparently do. I try to live by the mantra of cleaning my doorstep before I clean others. I don't always succeed at this but I do try. So, you can hate on Musk all you want until your heads explode, or you can chill out, and worry about more important things.
I have no problem with Musk as a person. And never had. I do have a problem with the deeds people with enormous power who do bad things. Such as opening the gates to hate speech and misogyny. Such firing people with the "wrong" opinions. And being arrogant about the whole thing. Most of all, as my original post indicates, I am fairly certain that he is destroying his own fortune. And I do find that interesting, to observe. And if I am wrong, it still is interesting.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Ya, but do they have any programmers left to work on it? :-D
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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I have no problem with Musk as a person. And never had. I do have a problem with the deeds people with enormous power who do bad things. Such as opening the gates to hate speech and misogyny. Such firing people with the "wrong" opinions. And being arrogant about the whole thing. Most of all, as my original post indicates, I am fairly certain that he is destroying his own fortune. And I do find that interesting, to observe. And if I am wrong, it still is interesting.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
megaadam wrote:
Such as opening the gates to hate speech and misogyny. Such firing people with the "wrong" opinions. And being arrogant about the whole thing.
Those are 3 very interesting sentences all in a row. If you look through the eyes of the 10's of thousands of Twitter accounts "permanently" suspended by the previous regime simply for the mistake of questioning the effectiveness of cloth masks, canceling in-person school or mentioning the contents of a certain person's laptop it takes on a whole different perspective. Just saying...
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It only looks like a "war" to the general public. The fact that the "Twitter app" is now "Musk's app", is a good enough reason to stay away from it. (IMO). If I wanted to use Twitter (and I don't), I'd use a browser. I don't know how many people get that part. And they're confusing free will (ads) and free speech.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
Gerry Schmitz wrote:
The fact that the "Twitter app" is now "Musk's app", is a good enough reason to stay away from it. (IMO).
What has he done that you have this attitude? Space-X, Tesla, Starlink, Boring? I personally think Space-X is elephanting amazing and on that alone I admire the guy. Has he done dickish business moves over the years - yeah. Pretty much de rigueur for the billionaire class. I don't stop using Apple products because Jobs was an ass, I don't stop using Windows because Gates use monopolistic business tactics. What is about this guy that drives everyone crazy? Is it simply his politics? :confused:
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Gerry Schmitz wrote:
The fact that the "Twitter app" is now "Musk's app", is a good enough reason to stay away from it. (IMO).
What has he done that you have this attitude? Space-X, Tesla, Starlink, Boring? I personally think Space-X is elephanting amazing and on that alone I admire the guy. Has he done dickish business moves over the years - yeah. Pretty much de rigueur for the billionaire class. I don't stop using Apple products because Jobs was an ass, I don't stop using Windows because Gates use monopolistic business tactics. What is about this guy that drives everyone crazy? Is it simply his politics? :confused:
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DRHuff wrote:
What has he done that you have this attitude? ... Has he done dickish business moves over the years - yeah. Pretty much de rigueur for the billionaire class.
And there you have answered your own question. Why the fuck would we want to be ruled by a**holes? I sure don't.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
both his decision to go forward with the Twitter purchase
He did not want to go through with the purchase. The legal process/Courts were making him honor the contract. He had no choice really. Now, as I have said before, he is sinking the ship, one way or another. Twitter is finished.
Slacker007 wrote:
The legal process/Courts were making him honor the contract
AIUI, there was a clause in the Twitter purchase contract that allowed him to cancel, on payment of a (large) fee. Musk didn't want to go through with the purchase, but also didn't want to pay the cancellation fee. He apparently decided that ownership of Twitter was the lesser of the two evils.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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den2k88 wrote:
Elonny got his gun
If this is a reference to what I think it is ... Dalton Trumbo: Johnny Got His Gun ... I suspect that a lot of people don't get it, the real seriousness of it. I rarely find people who has read the book, or even seen the movie. (It really is impossible to make a movie out of that novel, but they did the best out of it: Johnny Got His Gun 1971 - YouTube[^]) Giving the novel my strong recommendations, I must do so with some equally strong warnings: Don't read it if you are even slightly down. It takes a lot of mental strength to handle this story. It is black. And relating Elon to Johnny is really ... I don't know what to say. Cruel. Brutal. Black. (For those who do not know the novel: Johnny is a WW1 soldier, waking up after an attack, discovering that he has no hearing, no eyesight, no limbs, no nothing ... He is completely isolated under all his bandages. Slowly, one of the nurses who happens to know morse, manages to establish contact with Johnny's consciousness, tapping morse code on his skin, with him replying by contractions of the few muscles that he still can control. But the doctors think the nurse is crazy, believing that she can communicate with a vegetable such as Johnny. So she is moved to a different post. ... Not quite a happy ending.)
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Don't read it if you are even slightly down. It takes a lot of mental strength to handle this story. It is black.
I had the same with Count of Monte Cristo. People see the movie and think it's an uplifting revenge story. It's not. The full story by Dumas is bleak. I feel it nearly sent me into a depression. It's a story about revenge allright. But in the old-testamental sense: I will not only destroy you, but I will destroy everything in your life: your reputation, your business, your children, your children's children, and when everyone is dead and everything has turned to ashes you will finally know why and weep for the destruction of everything good in your life. I kid you not it affected me really bad and took time to get out of it.
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megaadam wrote:
Such as opening the gates to hate speech and misogyny. Such firing people with the "wrong" opinions. And being arrogant about the whole thing.
Those are 3 very interesting sentences all in a row. If you look through the eyes of the 10's of thousands of Twitter accounts "permanently" suspended by the previous regime simply for the mistake of questioning the effectiveness of cloth masks, canceling in-person school or mentioning the contents of a certain person's laptop it takes on a whole different perspective. Just saying...
At least he drew the line at Alex Jones...
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He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
Maybe there's method in this madness after all. A while ago, I've read an article speculating about Musk being overworked. If that's true, then fucking up as much as possible to show everyone that you are in fact overloaded isn't the best coping mechanism, but it is a coping mechanism.
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DRHuff wrote:
What has he done that you have this attitude? ... Has he done dickish business moves over the years - yeah. Pretty much de rigueur for the billionaire class.
And there you have answered your own question. Why the fuck would we want to be ruled by a**holes? I sure don't.
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He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
My take is this is simply hilarious. Watching so-called liberals fall all over themselves predicting the end of civilization because free speech is back is amusing to say the very least. Wait until some sideways talking Lib gets cutoff from Twitter. Liberal heads exploding across the USA in 3.2... BTW, I am NOT a Twitter-er.
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den2k88 wrote:
Elonny got his gun
If this is a reference to what I think it is ... Dalton Trumbo: Johnny Got His Gun ... I suspect that a lot of people don't get it, the real seriousness of it. I rarely find people who has read the book, or even seen the movie. (It really is impossible to make a movie out of that novel, but they did the best out of it: Johnny Got His Gun 1971 - YouTube[^]) Giving the novel my strong recommendations, I must do so with some equally strong warnings: Don't read it if you are even slightly down. It takes a lot of mental strength to handle this story. It is black. And relating Elon to Johnny is really ... I don't know what to say. Cruel. Brutal. Black. (For those who do not know the novel: Johnny is a WW1 soldier, waking up after an attack, discovering that he has no hearing, no eyesight, no limbs, no nothing ... He is completely isolated under all his bandages. Slowly, one of the nurses who happens to know morse, manages to establish contact with Johnny's consciousness, tapping morse code on his skin, with him replying by contractions of the few muscles that he still can control. But the doctors think the nurse is crazy, believing that she can communicate with a vegetable such as Johnny. So she is moved to a different post. ... Not quite a happy ending.)
Metallica's One is a near perfect adaptation of the store.
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He seems quite determined to self-destruct This is more-of-the same, but IMO at a new levels
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
If both Apple and Twitter go down the world will be a better place. Remember, Apple was the reason the EU forced all device manufacturers to go to USB-C as the single charging standard. Apple also has acted like a monopoly for years when it comes to access to iOS devices; both Microsoft (Windows) and Google (Android) have open environments for developers. However, I wouldn't bet against Elon Musk. I would bet against Apple in this case.