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Not a rant, a real Windows 11 update question.... what the heck is it doing?

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  • L Lost User

    I wouldn't mind hearing your personal story. Discovery is often motivated by personal experience. My instincts are telling me your motivation is more clearly defined in the first book. :-D Refresh the Ebay listing!

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    Enjoy it, as much as possible. The astronomy was wrong, it wasn't presented as well, the writing was much worse, a couple sections were completely removed as I learned more of the art of writing - etc., etc... But I'm interested in your thoughts after you've looked it over. edit: I can't really remember much about what is in it at this point, although I do remember taking out an entire chapter on Constantine.

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      Enjoy it, as much as possible. The astronomy was wrong, it wasn't presented as well, the writing was much worse, a couple sections were completely removed as I learned more of the art of writing - etc., etc... But I'm interested in your thoughts after you've looked it over. edit: I can't really remember much about what is in it at this point, although I do remember taking out an entire chapter on Constantine.

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      Don't stress, Despite my reputation here I'm not judgemental and very accepting of everyone. I'm just curious about what would motivate your attack/investigation on religion. It's your fault, the synopsis sold me:

      A Cult Survivorwrote:

      Imagine that your mother ran away to join a religious cult when you were seven, taking you with her. She did not tell your father where she went, but he found you, and fought to reunite the family. He failed, and their marriage collapsed when he rejected the cult and she refused to change her beliefs...

      The book I bought and read through has 278 pages (plus two blank). The one on Ebay has 444 pages. How could I resist? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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        Don't stress, Despite my reputation here I'm not judgemental and very accepting of everyone. I'm just curious about what would motivate your attack/investigation on religion. It's your fault, the synopsis sold me:

        A Cult Survivorwrote:

        Imagine that your mother ran away to join a religious cult when you were seven, taking you with her. She did not tell your father where she went, but he found you, and fought to reunite the family. He failed, and their marriage collapsed when he rejected the cult and she refused to change her beliefs...

        The book I bought and read through has 278 pages (plus two blank). The one on Ebay has 444 pages. How could I resist? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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        Randor wrote:

        I'm just curious about what would motivate your attack/investigation on religion.

        That's easy: hypocrites. I've seen a lot of hypocrites, including family members like Mom, who couldn't see the hypocrisy in her actions versus so-called beliefs. And almost every priest I've ever met. And then I realized that the beliefs themselves contain hypocrisies at their root, as pointed out in the last book chapter... But that gets us into non-CP material. This last six years hasn't helped my mental outlook much, either, since beliefs and hypocrisy are at the root of those problems as well. I suppose I can add 'curiosity' to the answer, as well. A real driving force after my experience was to understand the mind of God, to understand why I had to undergo such crap. For a while I believed the indoctrination, and a God of the nature I'd been raised with, and a motivation to understand it because of my experiences. Per Amazon, the version you now have is 308 pages, including Index and blanks at end for printing folio purposes. I was able to shave 136 pages off the first edition to get that there! Pretty good, I must say! Very much like optimizing a program, based on my experience! I believe you will have more difficulty reading #1, because I think I still used a lot of 'that's in the writing, and other redundancies back then. (And I notice I still don't automatically edit them out, as seen above.) But as long as you are curious, have fun!

        Randor wrote:

        Despite my reputation here...

        Since our first headbutt, which was a misunderstanding on my part, I've never thought you were judgmental or non-understanding. And I don't think you have a reputation as being either of those in these forums, either.

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        • L Lost User

          Ok, now you caught my attention. Where can I get the first addition? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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          (Made me curious. I just checked and can't find a copy of my first edition. Found a second edition, though! It was also meaty! :laugh: You will definitely see all of the wrong astronomy, but you will also see that the core of the correct astronomy had became understood through those efforts - just shift a thousand years, come to grips with the '60' nature of Judges 16 (which still blows my mind - the priests really did that? But they did, and I can understand why they did given the bigger historic picture. 440 years is mind-blowing no matter how I view it.) And wallah!)

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            Randor wrote:

            I'm just curious about what would motivate your attack/investigation on religion.

            That's easy: hypocrites. I've seen a lot of hypocrites, including family members like Mom, who couldn't see the hypocrisy in her actions versus so-called beliefs. And almost every priest I've ever met. And then I realized that the beliefs themselves contain hypocrisies at their root, as pointed out in the last book chapter... But that gets us into non-CP material. This last six years hasn't helped my mental outlook much, either, since beliefs and hypocrisy are at the root of those problems as well. I suppose I can add 'curiosity' to the answer, as well. A real driving force after my experience was to understand the mind of God, to understand why I had to undergo such crap. For a while I believed the indoctrination, and a God of the nature I'd been raised with, and a motivation to understand it because of my experiences. Per Amazon, the version you now have is 308 pages, including Index and blanks at end for printing folio purposes. I was able to shave 136 pages off the first edition to get that there! Pretty good, I must say! Very much like optimizing a program, based on my experience! I believe you will have more difficulty reading #1, because I think I still used a lot of 'that's in the writing, and other redundancies back then. (And I notice I still don't automatically edit them out, as seen above.) But as long as you are curious, have fun!

            Randor wrote:

            Despite my reputation here...

            Since our first headbutt, which was a misunderstanding on my part, I've never thought you were judgmental or non-understanding. And I don't think you have a reputation as being either of those in these forums, either.

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            David O'Neil wrote:

            Per Amazon, the version you now have is 308 pages

            I'm holding the book and counting manually. I've had a few glasses of red wine but I can't figure out how the number 308 comes about. I'm counting 3 blank folio at the end for (6). And 11 folio at the beginning (for 22). With 278 comprising the text. I can't figure out how to make 308 pages. (22+6+278) Does the cover folio count? That would make it 308

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            • D David ONeil

              (Made me curious. I just checked and can't find a copy of my first edition. Found a second edition, though! It was also meaty! :laugh: You will definitely see all of the wrong astronomy, but you will also see that the core of the correct astronomy had became understood through those efforts - just shift a thousand years, come to grips with the '60' nature of Judges 16 (which still blows my mind - the priests really did that? But they did, and I can understand why they did given the bigger historic picture. 440 years is mind-blowing no matter how I view it.) And wallah!)

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              I'm sorry if I bought the only surviving copy of the first edition book. I will gladly send it to you. No problem. You should have a copy of your first addition, I demand it. I will forward it to you. I'm sorry I purchased it before you had a chance, please forgive me.

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              • L Lost User

                I'm sorry if I bought the only surviving copy of the first edition book. I will gladly send it to you. No problem. You should have a copy of your first addition, I demand it. I will forward it to you. I'm sorry I purchased it before you had a chance, please forgive me.

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                David ONeil
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                Please read it first, and satisfy your curiosity. I may still find it, as I haven't looked everywhere and do kinda remember it being in some shelves I am loath to tear into.

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                • L Lost User

                  David O'Neil wrote:

                  Per Amazon, the version you now have is 308 pages

                  I'm holding the book and counting manually. I've had a few glasses of red wine but I can't figure out how the number 308 comes about. I'm counting 3 blank folio at the end for (6). And 11 folio at the beginning (for 22). With 278 comprising the text. I can't figure out how to make 308 pages. (22+6+278) Does the cover folio count? That would make it 308

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                  David ONeil
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                  The last printed page is 293 in the Index. There are 12 pages before the Intro, and the 3 blank at the end, making 308. Yes, the folio count, as they tally total pages for binding and shipping purposes.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Ok, now you caught my attention. Where can I get the first addition? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                    David ONeil
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                    (Oh God, do I have some bad crap in there! At least in the second edition! Off by a thousand years or more in places! :~ Gotta start from someplace, though! And nobody would really help me.)

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                    • D David ONeil

                      The last printed page is 293 in the Index. There are 12 pages before the Intro, and the 3 blank at the end, making 308. Yes, the folio count, as they tally total pages for binding and shipping purposes.

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                      Ok, Folio, two leaves, four pages, look front, glance to the back. Too much wine, can't. Count i need a few hours of sleep. 308 :wtf: Let's talktom orow

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                      • D David ONeil

                        (Oh God, do I have some bad crap in there! At least in the second edition! Off by a thousand years or more in places! :~ Gotta start from someplace, though! And nobody would really help me.)

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                        Omg, david o'neil IQ minus 1000, god help us, was he wrong. don't stress, ideas evolve, i really do need some sleep though.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Ok, Folio, two leaves, four pages, look front, glance to the back. Too much wine, can't. Count i need a few hours of sleep. 308 :wtf: Let's talktom orow

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                          David ONeil
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                          Randor wrote:

                          ...can't. Count...

                          You make me feel better. One problem of mine is numbers jump around for me. I understand all of the concepts, but adding a column by hand isn't one of my strengths. At all.

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                          • Z zezba9000

                            Pro Tip... don't use modern Window OS on old hardware. Its slow, it uses legacy driver emulation & it doesn't make your life better. Align the hardware age in your computer with the Window OS lifespans. Match those two & it will be smooth as butter.

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                            charlieg
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                            Umm, not to be argumentative, but your statement contradicts reality. This occurred on a less than 1 year old AMD Ryzen 7 based laptop, 64GB ram, RTX3080, gigabit ethernet, and a Samsung NVMe SSD. No, Microsoft's bugs and design decisions are legendary. I noted how I fixed it above, but I think the update process has a race condition in it where the "let's go do the update" code misses the completion of the download. Conjecture on my part, but another post above explained how the process worked. I can understand not having drivers with older hardware - but the update process should detect a mismatch and give a meaningful error. Unfortunately MS simply does not give a crap.

                            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Omg, david o'neil IQ minus 1000, god help us, was he wrong. don't stress, ideas evolve, i really do need some sleep though.

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                              David ONeil
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                              I hope you are feeling well. Not that we had to continue the conversation, but your disappearance from the site makes me think you came down with something. If that is the case, get better soon.

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                                I hope you are feeling well. Not that we had to continue the conversation, but your disappearance from the site makes me think you came down with something. If that is the case, get better soon.

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                                Lost User
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                                LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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                                • L Lost User

                                  LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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                                  David ONeil
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                                  Glad you are OK! Look forward to hearing back from you. Stay well!

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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                                    David ONeil
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                                    Did your book show the 6th edition or the 7th edition in the copyright page? I just received an order and it gave me the 6th edition! If so, return your copy to Amazon for the correct version. If you remember reading a chapter on the three paths of the Babylonians, and illuminating what they were, you have the 7th edition. But I'll bet you have the 6th. That's why you didn't get the right page count!!! The 7th also has a chapter on Moses, for 16 chapters total. edit: now I have to go back to commiserating with myself for my poor addition abilities! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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                                      David ONeil
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                                      (Which also may explain why your copy was $5, and they haven't paid royalty on it yet. So the current edition will probably run the $20. :( )

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                                      • D David ONeil

                                        (Which also may explain why your copy was $5, and they haven't paid royalty on it yet. So the current edition will probably run the $20. :( )

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                                        Lost User
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                                        "Sixth edition 2019" ISBN 978-1440459610 I didn't know you were from Texas. Just noticed the address.

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                                          "Sixth edition 2019" ISBN 978-1440459610 I didn't know you were from Texas. Just noticed the address.

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                                          David ONeil
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                                          I'm in Montana now, but the PO box gets forwarded if it is anything important.

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