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  • D Daniel Pfeffer

    charlieg wrote:

    How a northern state has the hubris to declare a disaster from a snow storm baffles me.

    I suppose it's the same hubris that gets southern states to ask for Federal funds for hurricanes. In 1794, James Madison wrote disapprovingly of a $15,000 appropriation for French refugees: [1]

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    “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

    The Federal government has come a long way since then, not necessarily in directions that the Founders would have approved. [1] [Our Unconstitutional Congress | Imprimis](https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/our-unconstitutional-congress/)

    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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    honey the codewitch
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    The founders thought slavery was okay, women were property, black people were practically less than human, etc. As an American citizen I don't really care what men like that intended, personally. We're here to grow. And now I've dipped my toes where they shouldn't be. *hides*

    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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    • H honey the codewitch

      The founders thought slavery was okay, women were property, black people were practically less than human, etc. As an American citizen I don't really care what men like that intended, personally. We're here to grow. And now I've dipped my toes where they shouldn't be. *hides*

      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      charlieg
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      when you take from one to keep or give to another it's not growth - it's theft.

      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      • D Daniel Pfeffer

        charlieg wrote:

        How a northern state has the hubris to declare a disaster from a snow storm baffles me.

        I suppose it's the same hubris that gets southern states to ask for Federal funds for hurricanes. In 1794, James Madison wrote disapprovingly of a $15,000 appropriation for French refugees: [1]

        Quote:

        “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

        The Federal government has come a long way since then, not necessarily in directions that the Founders would have approved. [1] [Our Unconstitutional Congress | Imprimis](https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/our-unconstitutional-congress/)

        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        charlieg
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        Point taken and I'm not defending any state hitting the federal tit. Illinois and California is coming soon for OSM "other states' money" to bail out their pension plans.

        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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          Point taken and I'm not defending any state hitting the federal tit. Illinois and California is coming soon for OSM "other states' money" to bail out their pension plans.

          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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          California and Illinois are financial (and political) messes. There is no denying that. Neither is on course to correct their issues but… Do yourself a favor and Google for a list of US states whose citizens pay more in federal taxes than their states receive back from the feds. California and Illinois have been in the top 5 for decades and decades. In other words… other states routinely have been taking their money for 40+ years. Think of this as simple payback.

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            when you take from one to keep or give to another it's not growth - it's theft.

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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            Slacker007
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            Although, I agree with your comment based on other political contexts, I don't think your reply is directly in line with what Honey had posted. You might be veering off the tracks a little on this one. :laugh:

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            • F fgs1963

              California and Illinois are financial (and political) messes. There is no denying that. Neither is on course to correct their issues but… Do yourself a favor and Google for a list of US states whose citizens pay more in federal taxes than their states receive back from the feds. California and Illinois have been in the top 5 for decades and decades. In other words… other states routinely have been taking their money for 40+ years. Think of this as simple payback.

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              4. No politics (including enviro-politics[^]), no sex, no religion. This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions.

              :laugh:

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                Point taken and I'm not defending any state hitting the federal tit. Illinois and California is coming soon for OSM "other states' money" to bail out their pension plans.

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                4. No politics (including enviro-politics[^]), no sex, no religion. This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions.

                :laugh:

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                • C charlieg

                  when you take from one to keep or give to another it's not growth - it's theft.

                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  Yep, taxes are theft. Give me freedom or give me roads! And now I'm done.

                  To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                  • F fgs1963

                    California and Illinois are financial (and political) messes. There is no denying that. Neither is on course to correct their issues but… Do yourself a favor and Google for a list of US states whose citizens pay more in federal taxes than their states receive back from the feds. California and Illinois have been in the top 5 for decades and decades. In other words… other states routinely have been taking their money for 40+ years. Think of this as simple payback.

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                    charlieg
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                    so? It's not a family money pot

                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      so? It's not a family money pot

                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      fgs1963
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                      Really? Then why have Cali and Illinois gotten screwed for decades while “poor” southern states suck on the federal teat?

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                        4. No politics (including enviro-politics[^]), no sex, no religion. This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions.

                        :laugh:

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                        charlieg
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                        noted.

                        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                        • C charlieg

                          when you take from one to keep or give to another it's not growth - it's theft.

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                          Dave Kreskowiak
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                          Really? Is it theft to take tax money and give it to police, fire, and EMT employees as a paycheck?

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                            [What is the 'Bomb Cyclone' That is Sweeping Across United States? | The Quint - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6MBQ7d\_RGg) I wonder how your life is affected by this cyclone as a developer?? :confused: how you spend the day when the cyclone is out there

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                            Craig Robbins
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                            In my part of Minnesota, we had temperatures consistently around -25 C, strong winds, and snow for several days. The main hazards were poor visibility on highways, disrupted air travel, and a risk to exposed skin. Also repeated exposure to "the sky is falling" weather hype.

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                              [What is the 'Bomb Cyclone' That is Sweeping Across United States? | The Quint - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6MBQ7d\_RGg) I wonder how your life is affected by this cyclone as a developer?? :confused: how you spend the day when the cyclone is out there

                              ===================================================== The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence

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                              obermd
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                              Where I live we routinely get wind strong enough to be given a name in Florida. We call it a zephyr and use it to meet our neighbors when we go searching for our patio furniture.

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                              • H honey the codewitch

                                The founders thought slavery was okay, women were property, black people were practically less than human, etc. As an American citizen I don't really care what men like that intended, personally. We're here to grow. And now I've dipped my toes where they shouldn't be. *hides*

                                To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                Richard Andrew x64
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                                If you read any sort of legitimate history, you'll discover that all of those three statements at the beginning of your post are not true in the least.

                                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                  If you read any sort of legitimate history, you'll discover that all of those three statements at the beginning of your post are not true in the least.

                                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                  honey the codewitch
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                                  When people have to qualify history with extra adjectives I generally tune out. History is history. When people start claiming they have the one legitimate take it usually means they're running a con. Thomas Jefferson raped one of his slaves over the course of years. Claimed he was in love with her. They were sociopaths.

                                  To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                  • C charlieg

                                    Well, most of us call it winter and a bad storm. If you are the weather media, it becomes a "bomb cyclone", super hyped to drive up viewers, etc. And, what I find utterly absurd and sadly hilarious, the governor of New York has called the President to ask for a disaster declaration for federal funds. New York, you are welcome said the developer in Georgia. How a northern state has the hubris to declare a disaster from a snow storm baffles me.

                                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                    This. I was listening to [No Agenda](http://www.noagendashow.com) yesterday, a podcast that "deconstructs the news", and they played back some sound bites where one reporter was still calling this a "bomb cyclone" right after interviewing a meteorologist who defined what was needed to declare it as such (blah-blah-atmospheric pressure, blah-blah-needs-X-millibars, and this doesn't qualify at all). IOW, he was contradicting himself and kept using the name, just because it just sounds oh-so much more horrible and attention-grabbing... [Here](https://noagendaassets.com/enc/1672007295.994\_bombcyclonedeefined.mp3), found the clip...this is the part where one says this does NOT qualify...greater discussion was part of the podcast itself (#1515, recorded on the 25th).

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                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      Yep, taxes are theft. Give me freedom or give me roads! And now I'm done.

                                      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                      charlieg
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                                      Okay honey, that's not even relevant. Roads are the general welfare, etc. A slush fund for states to debit is not. At some point it has to end. If a state allows development on the coasts that are KNOWN to have hurricanes, they should live with it. No federal trough for them. Live in a northern state - deal with the snow. The alternative is that the federal government will be petitioned out the wazoo for every bad decision made my state law makers. Our form of government cannot exist with that mentality. Sooner or later, the thought process trickles down to Venezuela level economics. We don't want to go there. I stand by my statement - New Yorkers, if you keep electing people who cannot manage dealing with winter, it's on you.

                                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                        charlieg wrote:

                                        How a northern state has the hubris to declare a disaster from a snow storm baffles me.

                                        I suppose it's the same hubris that gets southern states to ask for Federal funds for hurricanes. In 1794, James Madison wrote disapprovingly of a $15,000 appropriation for French refugees: [1]

                                        Quote:

                                        “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

                                        The Federal government has come a long way since then, not necessarily in directions that the Founders would have approved. [1] [Our Unconstitutional Congress | Imprimis](https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/our-unconstitutional-congress/)

                                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                        charlieg
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                                        absolutely. "Welfare" - the act of the federal government taking money from one (taxes) and giving to another - was regularly disavowed by the supreme court - until Roosevelt packed the court. government is NOT your savior. In the area I live, one of the local counties has a 20 minute 911 response time yet some of the highest taxes in the state. We're not talking police, we're talking FIRE. People called the local fire station only to be told to call 911. Meanwhile in other news, our "enlightened government passed a bill for 1.7 trillion" - making yet another year that Congress has not passed a budget.

                                        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                        • H honey the codewitch

                                          The founders thought slavery was okay, women were property, black people were practically less than human, etc. As an American citizen I don't really care what men like that intended, personally. We're here to grow. And now I've dipped my toes where they shouldn't be. *hides*

                                          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                          charlieg
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                                          for the record, honey, that is such a serious distortion of reality it's breathtaking. stop repeating what you learned in government schools.

                                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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