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  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

    If you read any sort of legitimate history, you'll discover that all of those three statements at the beginning of your post are not true in the least.

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    honey the codewitch
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    When people have to qualify history with extra adjectives I generally tune out. History is history. When people start claiming they have the one legitimate take it usually means they're running a con. Thomas Jefferson raped one of his slaves over the course of years. Claimed he was in love with her. They were sociopaths.

    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      Well, most of us call it winter and a bad storm. If you are the weather media, it becomes a "bomb cyclone", super hyped to drive up viewers, etc. And, what I find utterly absurd and sadly hilarious, the governor of New York has called the President to ask for a disaster declaration for federal funds. New York, you are welcome said the developer in Georgia. How a northern state has the hubris to declare a disaster from a snow storm baffles me.

      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      This. I was listening to [No Agenda](http://www.noagendashow.com) yesterday, a podcast that "deconstructs the news", and they played back some sound bites where one reporter was still calling this a "bomb cyclone" right after interviewing a meteorologist who defined what was needed to declare it as such (blah-blah-atmospheric pressure, blah-blah-needs-X-millibars, and this doesn't qualify at all). IOW, he was contradicting himself and kept using the name, just because it just sounds oh-so much more horrible and attention-grabbing... [Here](https://noagendaassets.com/enc/1672007295.994\_bombcyclonedeefined.mp3), found the clip...this is the part where one says this does NOT qualify...greater discussion was part of the podcast itself (#1515, recorded on the 25th).

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      • H honey the codewitch

        Yep, taxes are theft. Give me freedom or give me roads! And now I'm done.

        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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        charlieg
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        Okay honey, that's not even relevant. Roads are the general welfare, etc. A slush fund for states to debit is not. At some point it has to end. If a state allows development on the coasts that are KNOWN to have hurricanes, they should live with it. No federal trough for them. Live in a northern state - deal with the snow. The alternative is that the federal government will be petitioned out the wazoo for every bad decision made my state law makers. Our form of government cannot exist with that mentality. Sooner or later, the thought process trickles down to Venezuela level economics. We don't want to go there. I stand by my statement - New Yorkers, if you keep electing people who cannot manage dealing with winter, it's on you.

        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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        • D Daniel Pfeffer

          charlieg wrote:

          How a northern state has the hubris to declare a disaster from a snow storm baffles me.

          I suppose it's the same hubris that gets southern states to ask for Federal funds for hurricanes. In 1794, James Madison wrote disapprovingly of a $15,000 appropriation for French refugees: [1]

          Quote:

          “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

          The Federal government has come a long way since then, not necessarily in directions that the Founders would have approved. [1] [Our Unconstitutional Congress | Imprimis](https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/our-unconstitutional-congress/)

          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          charlieg
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          absolutely. "Welfare" - the act of the federal government taking money from one (taxes) and giving to another - was regularly disavowed by the supreme court - until Roosevelt packed the court. government is NOT your savior. In the area I live, one of the local counties has a 20 minute 911 response time yet some of the highest taxes in the state. We're not talking police, we're talking FIRE. People called the local fire station only to be told to call 911. Meanwhile in other news, our "enlightened government passed a bill for 1.7 trillion" - making yet another year that Congress has not passed a budget.

          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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          • H honey the codewitch

            The founders thought slavery was okay, women were property, black people were practically less than human, etc. As an American citizen I don't really care what men like that intended, personally. We're here to grow. And now I've dipped my toes where they shouldn't be. *hides*

            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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            for the record, honey, that is such a serious distortion of reality it's breathtaking. stop repeating what you learned in government schools.

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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            • H honey the codewitch

              When people have to qualify history with extra adjectives I generally tune out. History is history. When people start claiming they have the one legitimate take it usually means they're running a con. Thomas Jefferson raped one of his slaves over the course of years. Claimed he was in love with her. They were sociopaths.

              To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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              charlieg
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              Okay, clearly we're not going to have a real discussion here... I have to laugh that we've only discovered the faults of the founders in the last 10 years. Hmmm, makes you want to think if someone has an agenda. Remember, democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch. A republic grants rights to the sheep. no politics in the forum. Off to work on cars.

              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                Really? Is it theft to take tax money and give it to police, fire, and EMT employees as a paycheck?

                Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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                absolutely not - but that is the LOCAL level. For a state to go the the feds for other state' s money - yeah, it's a problem. Suppose my state doesn't fund properly because I know I can go for disaster relief? Stay in context.

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                • F fgs1963

                  California and Illinois are financial (and political) messes. There is no denying that. Neither is on course to correct their issues but… Do yourself a favor and Google for a list of US states whose citizens pay more in federal taxes than their states receive back from the feds. California and Illinois have been in the top 5 for decades and decades. In other words… other states routinely have been taking their money for 40+ years. Think of this as simple payback.

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                  charlieg
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                  Ummm, no. I disagree completely with your assertion.

                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                    Okay, clearly we're not going to have a real discussion here... I have to laugh that we've only discovered the faults of the founders in the last 10 years. Hmmm, makes you want to think if someone has an agenda. Remember, democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch. A republic grants rights to the sheep. no politics in the forum. Off to work on cars.

                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    I didn't say anything about the past 10 years. I'm not sure where you're getting that.

                    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                      for the record, honey, that is such a serious distortion of reality it's breathtaking. stop repeating what you learned in government schools.

                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      honey the codewitch
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                      You're right, man. I should repeat all the stuff from youtube videos with the title "Truth Exposed" Or you know, I could just read Jefferson's own words in his own memoirs (I have)

                      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                        I didn't say anything about the past 10 years. I'm not sure where you're getting that.

                        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                        charlieg
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                        fair enough, I extrapolated your statement unfairly.

                        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                          absolutely not - but that is the LOCAL level. For a state to go the the feds for other state' s money - yeah, it's a problem. Suppose my state doesn't fund properly because I know I can go for disaster relief? Stay in context.

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                          You really don't get it. The scale doesn't matter when it goes for the benefit of all. Remind me again who voted to deny New England Superstorm Sandy relief? That's right, the Republicans. Who gets the lions share of disaster relief, year over year? The southern states, all Republican run. So, according to your model, the Republicans are the thieves? Interesting.

                          Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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                            Ummm, no. I disagree completely with your assertion.

                            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                            You're being lazy because you might find out you're wrong. https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/[^]

                            Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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                              ditto

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                                You're being lazy because you might find out you're wrong. https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/[^]

                                Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                charlieg
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                                Not being lazy at all. I still find it hysterical that New York needs disaster assistance with a snow storm. The fed has grown so large and dominate that it's become ridiculous. But that wasn't the point of my original post.

                                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                  Well, most of us call it winter and a bad storm. If you are the weather media, it becomes a "bomb cyclone", super hyped to drive up viewers, etc. And, what I find utterly absurd and sadly hilarious, the governor of New York has called the President to ask for a disaster declaration for federal funds. New York, you are welcome said the developer in Georgia. How a northern state has the hubris to declare a disaster from a snow storm baffles me.

                                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                  haughtonomous
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                                  Maybe the problem is it's the wrong kind of snow?

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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    Yep, taxes are theft. Give me freedom or give me roads! And now I'm done.

                                    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                    haughtonomous
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                                    And yet I expect you still use and give thanks for the infrastructure (roads, power lines, dams, water supply, hospitals, police and military etc) that those "stolen" taxes pay for?

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                                      And yet I expect you still use and give thanks for the infrastructure (roads, power lines, dams, water supply, hospitals, police and military etc) that those "stolen" taxes pay for?

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                                      honey the codewitch
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                                      You missed the sarcasm

                                      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                        absolutely not - but that is the LOCAL level. For a state to go the the feds for other state' s money - yeah, it's a problem. Suppose my state doesn't fund properly because I know I can go for disaster relief? Stay in context.

                                        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                        haughtonomous
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                                        And has never been more out of context....

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                                        • H honey the codewitch

                                          You missed the sarcasm

                                          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                          haughtonomous
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                                          Apologies. Yup, it sailed right over my head. Although on closer reading I think it was irony, not sarcasm, but as that sailed over my head too, I'm not going to argue the point!

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