Working remotely? Check what software is on your company lappie ...
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Slacker007 wrote:
Most people need to start going back to the office, really.
Or better, develop a work ethic? :-D
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OriginalGriff wrote:
develop a work ethic?
I don't think that is possible after a certain age. I do believe most adults need to be baby sat by their employers.
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Woman ordered to repay employer after software shows ‘time theft’ | Canada | The Guardian[^] I can understand why they put it on there, but it left her without a leg to stand on.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
develop a work ethic?
I don't think that is possible after a certain age. I do believe most adults need to be baby sat by their employers.
I personally would have a hard time working from home. Too many distractions and I wouldn't get my work done, at least during regular hours. At the end of the day though, you're paid to complete objectives, it really doesn't matter where it's done and some people are more productive during non standard working hours so working from home can be a boon for those people. It should be immediately apparent to management who's not completing their objectives on time and address those people as needed.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
develop a work ethic?
I don't think that is possible after a certain age. I do believe most adults need to be baby sat by their employers.
Yep. And most citizens needs to be babysat by their governments. :) It’s called ‘being human.’ Sorry to rant.
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel
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I personally would have a hard time working from home. Too many distractions and I wouldn't get my work done, at least during regular hours. At the end of the day though, you're paid to complete objectives, it really doesn't matter where it's done and some people are more productive during non standard working hours so working from home can be a boon for those people. It should be immediately apparent to management who's not completing their objectives on time and address those people as needed.
Perhaps for some people it’d be difficult. I had no problem with it, but I did it in my 50s, after I’d already developed a distinction between work time and other. As for it being “immediately apparent to management,” it’s not always easy when developing software to fit the work into easily-measurable metrics: a roadblock over a day or two may resolve shortly after, leading to a productive sprint. Or it may not resolve. I don’t know… just offering my own perspective. :sigh:
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel
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Obligatory XKCD[^]. :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Love the compiling cartoon! My office mate and I used to throw six darts during project builds. We threw for bullseyes, and counted them on our white board. We ended up with so many tick marks, that we started tracking delta bulls eyes to avoid questions about all the tick marks stacking up through out the week. We got really good at darts, and built a really cool project. Too much fun.
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Woman ordered to repay employer after software shows ‘time theft’ | Canada | The Guardian[^] I can understand why they put it on there, but it left her without a leg to stand on.
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If this software was on a company owned laptop, that's one thing. If a company put software like this on my personal laptop and didn't offer me a company laptop I'd be suing them under any number of laws governing the unauthorized use of computer systems.
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We do daily stand-ups where we tell what we worked on yesterday, what's on tap for today, and anything that might block progress. Better than any tracking software and a whole lot less offensive.
Working remotely takes some discipline. Some of us I guess are just not capable of being disciplined. I have worked remotely for a few years of my career (pre-pandemic) as well as currently using a hybrid model (remote 3 days per week). I have a separate room I call my office and work during work hours without distractions. Not an issue for me. Perhaps those who have never worked remotely before, this is a big challenge.
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Working remotely takes some discipline. Some of us I guess are just not capable of being disciplined. I have worked remotely for a few years of my career (pre-pandemic) as well as currently using a hybrid model (remote 3 days per week). I have a separate room I call my office and work during work hours without distractions. Not an issue for me. Perhaps those who have never worked remotely before, this is a big challenge.
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I personally would have a hard time working from home. Too many distractions and I wouldn't get my work done, at least during regular hours. At the end of the day though, you're paid to complete objectives, it really doesn't matter where it's done and some people are more productive during non standard working hours so working from home can be a boon for those people. It should be immediately apparent to management who's not completing their objectives on time and address those people as needed.
I agree with this. It was impossible for me to be anywhere near as productive working remote compare to in the office. After 2 days, I opted to go back to the office, which was nice as 99.99% of the people in my building were remote.
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I personally would have a hard time working from home. Too many distractions and I wouldn't get my work done, at least during regular hours. At the end of the day though, you're paid to complete objectives, it really doesn't matter where it's done and some people are more productive during non standard working hours so working from home can be a boon for those people. It should be immediately apparent to management who's not completing their objectives on time and address those people as needed.
Unfortunately, most management these days, are old fashion minded and not ready for remote administration of personnel, so not just the employees are at fault when remote work doesn't play well for them; managers are not able to, or don't know how to manage by goals and remote assets. Most of the time it is related to poor administrative skills and organization to measure goals/tasks. Personally it is the complete opposite for me, I get distracted by uninvited bypassers that want their stuff done NOW, ambient chat or noise, and many other environmental factors. Again, poor organizational rules in place. I get more focused on my own space, with my own equipment (company stuff is bare minimum), and with my own ambient set for my tasks, and like that I also don't distract others. Each case is different I guess.
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Yep. And most citizens needs to be babysat by their governments. :) It’s called ‘being human.’ Sorry to rant.
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel
Actually, most governments needs to be babysat by their citizens. It’s called ‘Democracy'.
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Actually, most governments needs to be babysat by their citizens. It’s called ‘Democracy'.
Oh, I agree. But in reality that’s not the direction it’s going. :)
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel
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Perhaps for some people it’d be difficult. I had no problem with it, but I did it in my 50s, after I’d already developed a distinction between work time and other. As for it being “immediately apparent to management,” it’s not always easy when developing software to fit the work into easily-measurable metrics: a roadblock over a day or two may resolve shortly after, leading to a productive sprint. Or it may not resolve. I don’t know… just offering my own perspective. :sigh:
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel
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I agree with this. It was impossible for me to be anywhere near as productive working remote compare to in the office. After 2 days, I opted to go back to the office, which was nice as 99.99% of the people in my building were remote.
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It really was. Unfortunately for me, I read the book World War Z over a couple days lunch and break time and it totally weirded me out. I'd walk outside and no cars, no one walking, no one in the building. Poor choice of reading material during a pandemic. Otherwise, it was a very productive time, haha.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
develop a work ethic?
I don't think that is possible after a certain age. I do believe most adults need to be baby sat by their employers.
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We do daily stand-ups where we tell what we worked on yesterday, what's on tap for today, and anything that might block progress. Better than any tracking software and a whole lot less offensive.
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Slacker007 wrote:
I don't think that is possible after a certain age.
More like you either have it, or you don't.
Exactly. I would also take it one step further and assume that people who have a low or non-existent work ethic, are probably people that society does not want to associate with. It says a tremendous amount about a person's character and lack of integrity.
